2023 Israel-Palestine Armed Conflict

Kiwiballs said:
Fuck'em. Palestine will be better without Hamas too. They never should've existed.
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Too bad Bibi disagreed:

(https://archive.ph/A7sC0)
For years, the various governments led by Benjamin Netanyahu took an approach that divided power between the Gaza Strip and the West Bank — bringing Palestinian Authority President Mahmoud Abbas to his knees while making moves that propped up the Hamas terror group.

The idea was to prevent Abbas — or anyone else in the Palestinian Authority’s West Bank government — from advancing toward the establishment of a Palestinian state.

Thus, amid this bid to impair Abbas, Hamas was upgraded from a mere terror group to an organization with which Israel held indirect negotiations via Egypt, and one that was allowed to receive infusions of cash from abroad.
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Does no one read that story of the golem anymore?

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quackrock said:
Too bad Bibi disagreed:

(https://archive.ph/A7sC0)

Does no one read that story of the golem anymore?

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Oh I know, I've spoken about this before in the thread. Israel created Hamas:


Which again, is why its so good that they get to be destroyed now finally. Who ever pulled the lever, this organization has been used by both Iran and Israel and apparently by its own leadership while milking the Gazans dry of their humanitarian and apparently according to Wion financial worth.

I understand why Gazans would support it based on their desperate situation but Im glad its gonna be defeated. The only thing I fear is that Bibi fucking knows this and he knows that if he loses his external enemy then the opposition to him will grow. I still think he might pussy out of cleansing Gaza for real. Which isn't really pussying out, its protecting his own corrupt ass for future elections.


Ah the games of mice and men.
 
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Kiwiballs said:
Oh I know, I've spoken about this before in the thread. Israel created Hamas:

Which again, is why its so good that they get to be destroyed now finally. Who ever pulled the lever, this organization has been used by both Iran and Israel and apparently by its own leadership while milking the Gazans dry of their humanitarian and apparently according to Wion financial worth.

I understand why Gazans would support it based on their desperate situation but Im glad its gonna be defeated. The only thing I fear is that Bibi fucking knows this and he knows that if he loses his external enemy then the opposition to him will grow. I still think he might pussy out of cleansing Gaza for real. Which isn't really pussying out, its protecting his own corrupt ass for future elections.


Ah the games of mice and men.
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Israel isn't going to be murdering 2 million Arabs. Either they'll be forced into a giant refugee camp in southern Gaza or they'll be sent to Europe, likely the latter.

The Jews are letting their hatred of the Goyim override their long term interests. France will be majority Muslim in 20-30 years, the UK and Germany not long after. Then what? Israel cannot exist without the ongoing support of the entire west, not just the US. Constantly destabilizing the middle east and forcing millions of Muslims into Europe, and making their pet politicians accept them, guarantees the end of Israel within a generation. But the Jews are like the scorpion sitting on the frog's back, they can't help themselves.
 
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The Demon Pimp of Razgriz said:
Hamas is not a recognized government; it is a terrorist organization. Its fighters are not part of a uniformed military.
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It doesn't need to be a government per se. Rebel factions who have a clear chain of command and uniforms - even if the uniform is just an armband - count as lawful combatants.

As they are in charge of Gaza by elections (even if those election results are deemed invalid) there are only thing that stops Hamas from being lawful combatants:
First, no uniforms.
Second, they are violent retards and thus never signed the Geneva convention because their entire SOP is violating every tenet including not fighting as mercenaries.

Kiwiballs said:
Israeli propaganda keeps saying Iran is behind this.
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Iran green lit an operation to celebrate the Yom Kippur War and to act as a distraction for ally Russia to hopefully get the West's attention away from Russia's military advenures; no terrorist org in that area moves without Iran's go-ahead because if you don't do as Persia-senpai says, they stop selling/giving you shit. They got the Lebanese militia on board to move in support if things went off, but Fatah wasn't approached and Hezbollah wasn't shifted, so this was very clearly not supposed to be a major event.

What Iran very likely greenlit was a military check point hit & some hostage snatch-and-grab, almost certainly not 4k live-streamed desert rave carnage because even Iran isn't the fucking stupid.
 
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Ghostse said:
It doesn't need to be a government per se. Rebel factions who have a clear chain of command and uniforms - even if the uniform is just an armband - count as lawful combatants.

As they are in charge of Gaza by elections (even if those election results are deemed invalid) there are only thing that stops Hamas from being lawful combatants:
First, no uniforms.
Second, they are violent retards and thus never signed the Geneva convention because their entire SOP is violating every tenet including not fighting as mercenaries.


Iran green lit an operation to celebrate the Yom Kippur War and to act as a distraction for ally Russia to hopefully get the West's attention away from Russia's military advenures; no terrorist org in that area moves without Iran's go-ahead because if you don't do as Persia-senpai says, they stop selling/giving you shit. They got the Lebanese militia on board to move in support if things went off, but Fatah wasn't approached and Hezbollah wasn't shifted, so this was very clearly not supposed to be a major event.

What Iran very likely greenlit was a military check point hit & some hostage snatch-and-grab, almost certainly not 4k live-streamed desert rave carnage because even Iran isn't the fucking stupid.
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So basically, Hamas went full retard and now everyones plans, from Bibis to the Ayatollah are in the shitter?!
This kinda makes sense, though it's so retarded I can barely wrap my head around it.

borsabil said:
Israel isn't going to be murdering 2 million Arabs. Either they'll be forced into a giant refugee camp in southern Gaza or they'll be sent to Europe, likely the latter.

The Jews are letting their hatred of the Goyim override their long term interests. France will be majority Muslim in 20-30 years, the UK and Germany not long after. Then what? Israel cannot exist without the ongoing support of the entire west, not just the US. Constantly destabilizing the middle east and forcing millions of Muslims into Europe, and making their pet politicians accept them, guarantees the end of Israel within a generation. But the Jews are like the scorpion sitting on the frog's back, they can't help themselves.
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Well, all we can do is hope Hamas rocked the boat enough to finally bring an end to this crap. Israel is run by neocons, neocons that now have their people united for action. If they back down now it would be like Bush stepping up on that pile of burned debris after 9/11, having his polls in the green for the first time in his presidency and then saying "It would be wrong of us to invade a foreign country just because a bunch of terrorists there ordered the death of 3000 of our people".

Nobody is calling for the murder of 2 million Arabs. But Either Israel pushes in now or its political suicide for the current coalition.
Most likely they ethnically cleanse Gaza of 70-80% of their population by forcing through fear and destruction everyone to the border or across it. Then they absorb the rest into Israel like 2nd class citizens while killing/imprisoning anyone who has any links to Hamas and is still left after the dust settles.
 
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Hebrew phrase guide found in Kibbutz Be'eri:
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Among the entries:
"I'll kill you."
"Take off your pants."
"You are a captive."
"Where's the man in charge of the kibbutz?"
"We have hostages."
"How do you drive the tank?"
"Where is the car key?"
"Men here, women there."
 
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Shroom King said:
I don't understand how the Israelis can use laser-guided bombs to hit critical infrastructure yet miraculously miss every single cell phone tower, thus allowing the Palestinians to have 24/7 access to their twitter and facebook accounts so they can give updates of the war to those of us watching at home.
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They could be using Egyptian cell phone towers across the border. Range is 40km, Gaza is like 40 "long". So Egypt has something just at the border then the whole region is covered.
 
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Shroom King said:
I don't understand how the Israelis can use laser-guided bombs to hit critical infrastructure yet miraculously miss every single cell phone tower, thus allowing the Palestinians to have 24/7 access to their twitter and facebook accounts so they can give updates of the war to those of us watching at home.
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Someone on /pol/ posting with a Pali flag said he was using starlink.
 
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King George III said:
From last Saturday to today, Hamas fired 1039 rockets at Ashkelon, with 173 hitting the city. If an Iron Dome interceptor was fired at each of the rockets, that's about an 83% success rate.
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That's assuming all the rockets came anywhere near close to Ashkelon though. The better question to ask is just how accurate are Hamas's (or Hezbollah's) rockets
 
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borsabil said:
The Jews are letting their hatred of the Goyim override their long term interests. France will be majority Muslim in 20-30 years, the UK and Germany not long after. Then what? Israel cannot exist without the ongoing support of the entire west, not just the US.
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Yea theres already a lot of backlash even with shit like the UK openly banning pro Pali protests...a rule which was defied massively. ZOG can pull all the strings they like in government, but if too many Europeans are blowing off marriage + children or too busy living perverted lifestyles (partly due to ZOG fuckery, ironically) the nations they depend on will start bowing out as they become Muslim colonies.

Once there's enough Mohammads in Parliament, talk of shit like debanking Israel or potentially military action against them is not an impossibility if they are too openly wiping out the Palis.
 
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