2023 Israel-Palestine Armed Conflict

Hezbollah anti-tank missile hit three construction workers (i.e. Arabs) in the community of Shtula:
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MarvinTheParanoidAndroid said:
Are we seriously still doing this Holocaust denial shit?
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MarvinTheParanoidAndroid said:
I'm beginning to realize why Holocaust denial is a thing, and that's because it's social engineering psyop shit.
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Why are you replying to yourself? Holocaust denial is a thing because it’s easier to fixation on the obvious exaggerations than say “I don’t give a shit about crap that happened in Deutschistan 100 years ago”.
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Also here's proof that Alex Jones is a kike shill who poisons the well on Israeli discussion:
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You didn’t need to post all that shit. His ex-wife and current wife are both Jewish. Anybody with a brain knows that entails some level of sympathy towards Jewish people.
 
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King George III said:
From last Saturday to today, Hamas fired 1039 rockets at Ashkelon, with 173 hitting the city. If an Iron Dome interceptor was fired at each of the rockets, that's about an 83% success rate.
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If Hamas rockets were reliable, Israel would be bankrupt already.
EyeGuy said:
Hezbollah anti-tank missile hit three construction workers (i.e. Arabs) in the community of Shtula
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So construction worker being "foreigners" is a human universal.
 
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King George III said:
Evidently not very. Also not very reliable in general.
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Who is he and why should we care?

Most rockets falling short would not land in Gaza , the few more advanced rockets have minimum range settings before they arm and considering Gaza doesn't have the luxury of an Iron Dome we would have plenty of videos of Gazan neighborhoods being bombed before Israel even had time to react but we never get these videos.

What ever the case, probably very few deaths.

Not that most people liking that post actually cares about the civilians anyway. Its just a card being played.
I'm more curious about how many Iron Dome rockets Israel has left after spending between 50-150.000 USD per interception with missiles costing 50.000 dollars and the equipment itself 20 million, excluding personnel, training, fuel costs etc.


Edit (Did the math):
Each of those rockets does more damage (to US Taxpayers) when its intercepted than when it falls, wherever it falls.

Hamas has 5000 to fire they say, fired - 30.000 ready, probably producing a few more every day.
5000 x 50.000 = 250.000.000
Israeli defense budget = 25.000.000.000
Meh, just 1%, not even dent. Probably covered.
6% for the full arsenal.


The disparity of force/money/size is so staggering Israel can afford this otherwise prohibitively expensive process.
 
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pistolwhipped said:
This is fucking hilarious. These absolute tards will call you a nazi for not cutting off your distant uncle who voted for Trump, but will openly praise a jihadist regime that stones gay people to death. The irony is so comical you can’t make this shit up.
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Yup. If a right wing person put their name to a document saying the slaughter of civilians was acceptable in the name of their goals, they would instantly lose everything.

I know "imagine if the roles were reversed" is a meme, but it really is horrifically demoralizing how things are.
 
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HootersMcBoobies said:
The IDF's oldest reservist, 95-year-old Erza Yachin, called on all Israelis to kill all Arab neighbors. "Erase the memory of them. Erase them, their families, their mothers and children. These animals have no right to live!" - he declared, addressing the soldiers.

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This guy received glowing coverage last week in the New York Post:

https://nypost.com/2023/10/10/95-year-old-reservist-joins-israels-fight-against-hamas-terrorists/ (https://archive.ph/kEtDD)

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Some readers have picked up on his more recent comments:

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He was officially called up by the IDF to motivate troops in the name of the State of Israel, and has been hailed as a hero in mainstream Israeli media:

https://twitter.com/HananyaNaftali/status/1711765279951171609 (https://archive.ph/4RAIL)

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"If you have an Arab neighbor don't wait, go to his home and shoot him. [...] Erase them, their families, mothers and children. These animals can no longer live." —official IDF motivational speaker

If any lib journoscum or Palishits are reading this, Merry Christmas. Go nuts.
 
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Kiwiballs said:
Who is he and why should we care?
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He's some journofag that's been working for Algemeiner for the past 15 years. From looking at what he's published over the years, he's covered almost nothing but Israel stuff the whole time.

Kiwiballs said:
Most rockets falling short would not land in Gaza
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Depends entirely on where in Gaza they were fired from, surely.

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What ever the case, probably very few deaths.
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That I can agree with you on, especially after seeing how little damage they do compared to munitions used by well funded militaries.
 
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Dragged Into Sunlight said:
They also don't shoot down the rockets the system judges to not be a danger to fall in habited areas.
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True! But not that important in calculating damage potential since 17% of the rockets that were a danger got through.
Edit: Maybe you're right though, who knows what they mean with "at Ashkelon". With 20-25% falling short according to the previous poster that could be a 20-25% lower costs on the numbers below.

https://www.bbc.com/news/articles/ck5xyz29e47o Says they had a success rating of 84% "at intercepting" so Im leaning on that all 1039 in this case were relevant threats.

So its success rate per deployed interception.
1039 attempted interceptions, 866 successful ones. 173 missed. 1039 Iron Dome missiles fired in defense of Ashkelon, probably slightly fewer as some may have just been detected too late - though since we're not counting any other costs associated with IDF use of ID we might as well assume 1039.

1039 x 50.000 = 51.(950.000) million spent + damages to the city probably not exceeding that number. Total damages= ~ 60-100.000.000
(If every Rocket hit a business its 100.000-1.000.000, apartments 50-100.000 (you have to clear debris - then rebuild), a street or park or field almost nothing. Every dead person is valued by the ghouls at insurance companies to be like 129.000 USD on average in an industrialized country).

Cost for Hamas (Iran/Qatar) probably a million at most (1039 x 300 (+ 500 if a few better rockets were fired) = ~ 300.000-1.000.000

Edit 2: I was curious on whether it could be a full total of 1000+ interceptions in defense of one city. Usually all videos show just a few.This video shows how much it can be:
 
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Some news from the Caliphate down under.

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Hyde Park is now Hamas Park.



Islamic Republic of Melbournistan.





Here are some quotes from the protesters, are they delusional or schizophrenic? You be the judge.
Greens Senator Mehreen Faruqi told the Sydney rally Israel's sustained strikes and ongoing siege of Gaza were "war crimes".
"I know the harsh consequences of telling the truth but that will not stop me telling it exactly as it is," she said to cheers.
"(Israel's actions) are the very definition of collective punishment."

Ghanemia Sultan, expelled from Gaza aged four in 1948 in what is known as the Nakba, said Israel had stolen her land.
"They kill my family," she told AAP.
"I have the right to return to Palestine ... We never, never, never forget our right."
One of the organisers contrasted Australian leaders' backing of a 'yes' vote for an Indigenous voice and recognition while concurrently supporting a "colonial, settler and fascist" regime in Israel.
"What a hypocrisy," she told the rally.


Muslim, Christian and Jewish speakers called for peace as hundreds of uniformed NSW Police officers watched on.
Jasminka Hadzimustafic said she was there to "stop the rise of Nazism" and support innocent people caught up in the conflict.
"Anyone with a hint of decency should be here," she told AAP.
"I'm not Palestinian, I'm not Arab, I'm just a human being."
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Translation of (Hebrew portion of) a Chinese TV interview with the parents of a hostage kidnapped at the music festival:

One of the boys showed me a phone with a clip on it. When I saw the clip I understood, with complete certainly, that it was my daughter. It's a moment that's impossible to explain. [Crying] A father, seeing his only daughter being led as a hostage to Gaza - I don't have the words to express, to explain my emotions to you. The emotions are overwhelming.
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The night before, she and her partner, Avinatan - we ate dinner together. We were celebrating the Sukkot holiday, and afterwards Noa asked to borrow the car. She said "Dad, can I drive to a far-away place?" I told her yes, it's all right, I'd never say you couldn't. We didn't know that she was driving there. I don't think that Liora [mother] would have let her go there.
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[Crying] She has a birthday, on Thursday. If the [Chinese] embassy can get a message to her, "Happy Birthday", you'd be doing everything. I don't know how I could thank you for it, I don't know how, how I could thank you, how I could say thanks. On Thursday, the tenth of October, Noa turns 26. Send her our love. If you can do it, if it's within the capabilities of the Chinese. Thank you, thank you, thank you.
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Kiwiballs said:
So basically, Hamas went full retard and now everyones plans, from Bibis to the Ayatollah are in the shitter?!
This kinda makes sense, though it's so retarded I can barely wrap my head around it.
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Its very possible everyone was on board with "Blow up some check points, take some hostages, cross border fire from Lebanon" down to unit commanders, but day of, the Hamas foot soldiers went fucking berserk for whatever reason - maybe the Imam was a little to good at his job of whipping them into righteous fury.
Or maybe some subcommander was a little pissed he wasn't invited to the F1 races with the rest of the Hamas leadership and channeled that rage into operational planning.
Or maybe the Iranian contact didn't read the planned operation all the way through and didn't realize what he'd approved.

Also, who the fuck thinks Bibi's plans are in the shitter? Jigga now has 2001 Bush Jr levels of "Enact my executive mandate or you are a traitor to the country; war is on bitch" authority.
 
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