Snowflake Jack Monroe / Melissa "Mel" Hadjicostas / Jack Xatzinikolas / @BootstrapCook - Spaghetti hoop rinser who wants to live like Common People, the face of poverty in Britain, literally can't lie

they're claiming it's primarily based on the appliances being cheaper to run (although not saying compared to what)
Presumably it's compared to an electric fan oven, but they don't say so it could be the shittiest electric oven in the country.

Also one thing no-one at Curry's the mongs who okay-ed this, the mongs at the rag who wrote about this, or Jack herself, appears to have asked is how the fuck are people supposed to buy the appliances in the first place? I mean if you're so desperate for money you're trying to save on your cooking bill of all things odds are you don't have a bunch of cash on hand to splash on a new cooking appliance.
Exactly. The people who dreamt this up have never been in that situation.

My back-of-the-envelope calculations suggest that, for the price of just buying (and not operating) the cheapest air fryer listed above (£179), you could run a typical electric fan oven (that you probably already own) for about 400 hours. (Using the figures from some random website.)

Also Currys are rip-off merchants that people should avoid like the plague.

Edit: Forgot to post the "I can't believe it's not entirely photoshopped!" photos from the recipes on the Currys website.
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How the fuck do you make risotto in an air fryer?
Messily?

I don't think there is a risotto among those recipes, and not all the appliances are air fryers. Obviously The Poors are expected to buy a new air fryer, a pressure cooker, and a slow cooker and then they can reap those sweet, sweet savings on their electricity bill.
 
Yeah you're right:
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I was going to say that "this doesn't strike me as a good idea" but then nothing will top Jack's recommendation (in Grifty Kitchen) to use a large knife to open tinned food, and to saw up said tins for use in making your fried eggs perfectly round. Bagsy not cleaning the air fryer after this atrocity.
 
How the fuck do you make risotto in an air fryer?
Here's the recipe:

Serves: To serve 4-6 people


Preparation time: 15 minutes


Cooking time: 40 minutes





Ingredients


12 frozen sausages (preferably large pork sausages)


2 medium onions


4 cloves of garlic


250g mushrooms


350g plain white rice


700ml boiling water


2 chicken stock cubes


400g can chopped tomatoes


2 tsp mixed dried herbs


Plenty of black pepper


Fresh parsley to serve, optional





Method


1. Pop the frozen sausages into the air fryer and set to 190C and air fry for 12 minutes.


2. Meanwhile, finely slice your onions and mushrooms, and finely grate, mince or chop your garlic. Set to one side.


3. Weigh your rice, set this to one side and pop your kettle on to boil.


4. When the sausages are cooked, remove them from the air fryer. Carefully remove the frying plate, but do not rinse or clean the drawer - you want that sausage fat and flavour for your risotto!


5. Add the onion, mushroom and garlic to the drawer, and stir quickly into the hot residual fat. Add the rice, then crumble over the stock cubes and sprinkle in the herbs.


6. Finely chop four of the sausages and add to the risotto, keeping the remaining sausages to serve on top. Pour over the chopped tomatoes, then the boiling water and give everything a good stir to combine. Air fryer at 190C for 30 minutes.


7. After 20 minutes, carefully slide out the drawer - which will temporarily pause the fryer function - and give the risotto a good stir.


8. Add the remaining sausages, pushing them into the risotto so that they don’t burn or overcook but instead flavour the rice and become tender - and return the drawer for the remaining 10 minutes.


9. Season with plenty of black pepper to serve, and fresh parsley you if like it.

This is the Ninja Foodi Max Dual Zone air fryer called for in the recipe:

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It looks like the cooking area is divided into two "drawers" that are essentially pots, if you take the little "crisper plates" out. The recipe says to cook everything else separately, then pour the rice in (with boiling water from a kettle) and cook it in the air fryer, so given an air fryer is a tiny convection oven, that's casserole technique.

This recipe sounds like it'd work, but there's no reason to involve the air fryer in the rice stage unless it's the only cooking appliance you have, or unless someone told you that you had to write a recipe only using their client's air fryer.

Bagsy not cleaning the air fryer after this atrocity.
This is a very fair point. Especially with the note that "do not rinse or clean the drawer - you want that sausage fat and flavour for your risotto." You're cooking right in the cooking drawer, so if you don't get the sausage grease and onion cleaned out of the corners, that's going to stay with the unit forever.

It's like those "life hacks" where someone tells you to cook chicken breast or salmon in a coffeemaker; yeah, using a regular pot means you're washing a pot today but if you don't clean the fish out of that carafe perfectly, you're going to be drinking salmon coffee for weeks.
 
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This isn't for poor people, it's for Guardian readers who like Jack. It's the sort of middle-class people who like this fake poverty porn, or who like slumming it and performing working-class life. It's like a sort of self-flagellating, sackcloth-and-ashes ritual thing they do to pretend they're not the out of touch poshos they really are. That's why they eat this shit.
How the fuck do you make risotto in an air fryer?
A better question is why do you make risotto in an air fryer?
 
so i had a vegan relative come over for dinner, and because I can't stand her, I decided to try out one of jack's recipes for her.

it was the 9p / 17p Carrot, Cumin & Kidney Bean Burger.

first of all, the only way I could've gotten the same pricing as jack would be by buying tiny portions of everything, meaning i was only able only to cook three normal sized burgers or four half sized burgers. if i'd brought everything in bulk, it would've easily pushed me over £30.

first, the kidney beans were to be washed (to get rid of the tinned taste? i have never tasted tin), then boiled for ten minutes. this made the resulting paste extremely watery, and i actually threw them out and started again, this time only boiling them for 5-6 minutes and they came out better.

i then had to set up another burner to sautee the carrots and onions, she recommended adding cumin and coriander, but i replaced the cumin with paprika, as there just was no taste to the mush after i'd finished cooking. think baby food. jack calls it "mashed potato" consistency, but unless she was adding some butter or cornflour on the side as it cooked, there was no way you were getting that consistency. after stirring in the flour, it ended up more like clumps rather than a smooth mashed potato consistency, and i didn't even add the full amount of flour.

clearly with all this, i knew it was going to be fucking hard to work it into a burger shape. it kept squishing through my fingers, like kid's slime. i ended up mixing a fuck ton of cornflour and an egg into it and only then did it bind and allow itself to be worked into a burger. i got three 2.4-ounce burgers out of it, then squished it all back together and got four burgers that weighed roughly 1.9-ounces each.

i served them to my relative on challah buns, with vegan mayo. jack doesn't specify what she served her goy slop on, but they look like seasoned buns, with lettuce and some strange red paste underneath. my buns came out cheaper than buying them (i make my dough in bulk) and the vegan mayo was supplied by my relative, she declined vegetables in the burger.

but the taste! that is what you beautiful kiwis are most interested in. she described the taste as "nonexistent", with the texture of reheated baby food. she only ate two, and asked if i thought she had an eating disorder because of the tiny portion sizes. i ate one of the ones she left, and even with the change from cumin to paprika, there was no taste. i understand this is supposed to be just slop that you can eat on a tiny budget, but even so. you'd be better off just having those mealcubes.

the pricing:

so i went to lidl. i think jack went to asda, but my nearest asda is fucking miles away. i only brought the cheapest, lidl-own brand stock, and brought the smallest portions of everything. so literally one carrot, one 150g bag of flour.

but even then, going to lidl, the tiny portions racked up to a rough cost of 46p per burger. that's literally if i divide the price of the kidney beans by the weight of the drained beans. a far cry from 7p or 17p, and considering lidl (and asda!) sell far larger burgers for close to 20p per burger in their bulk packs.

the energy cost was around £1 according to my smart meter, mainly caused by having to use two burners at once.

overall, it was shit, the recipe needlessly complicated and there were far better options out there. i may take a stab at other jack recipes, just to find the worst.
 
first, the kidney beans were to be washed (to get rid of the tinned taste? i have never tasted tin), then boiled for ten minutes.
Kidney beans contain a toxin which is broken down by boiling. My understanding is that it seeps out of the beans and into the cooking liquid, which is why you want to rinse the beans first. Also tinned beans have already been cooked properly, no need to vigorously boil them again, just warm them through.

i had a vegan relative come over for dinner, and because I can't stand her … i ended up mixing a fuck ton of cornflour and an egg into it
Top trolling.
 
Also tinned beans have already been cooked properly, no need to vigorously boil them again, just warm them through.
This. Does the recipe really call for boiling tinned beans specifically? That is fucking retarded. Presumably 'Jack' doesn't realise that they're already cooked because she's never cooked them from scratch herself, which requires soaking overnight and then boiling for much longer than 9 minutes.
 
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This. Does the recipe really call for boiling tinned beans specifically? That is fucking retarded. Presumably 'Jack' doesn't realise that they're already cooked because she's never cooked them from scratch herself, which requires soaking overnight and then boiling for much longer than 9 minutes.
it calls to rinse tinned kidney beans to “get rid of the tinned taste” then to boil them for ten minutes to “soften them”. if i’m honest, i’ve never boiled tinned red kidney beans, i tend to just dump them in when i make chilli and like i mentioned i’ve never noticed a “tinned taste” before.

taking everyone’s comments into consideration, i got some of the left over carrot and onion mush and squished the red kidney beans in whole. much better texture.

I’m assuming the egg you used was a vegan egg.
i told her i’d used a crack’d egg, she didn’t notice
 
it calls to rinse tinned kidney beans to “get rid of the tinned taste” then to boil them for ten minutes to “soften them”. if i’m honest, i’ve never boiled tinned red kidney beans, i tend to just dump them in when i make chilli and like i mentioned i’ve never noticed a “tinned taste” before.

taking everyone’s comments into consideration, i got some of the left over carrot and onion mush and squished the red kidney beans in whole. much better texture.


i told her i’d used a crack’d egg, she didn’t notice
I was once tasked with collecting a coffee for Noel Edmonds - I spat in it and watched him drink it, whilst he was being an objectionable cunt to everyone around him. I think your real egg is a more convoluted act of vindictive aggression, eggression if you like. I’m glad you’ve finally been able to unburden yourself from the guilt/enjoy sharing your malevolence.
 
Kidney beans contain a toxin which is broken down by boiling. My understanding is that it seeps out of the beans and into the cooking liquid, which is why you want to rinse the beans first. Also tinned beans have already been cooked properly, no need to vigorously boil them again, just warm them through.


Top trolling.
My guess was Ricin but that is Castor Beans.


According to the Food and Drug Administration's Bad Bug Book, dried red kidney beans and cannellini beans contain toxic levels of lectin—proteins that bind to carbohydrates—and can cause vomiting, diarrhea and gastrointestinal illness for several hours when not cooked properly.
 
I was once tasked with collecting a coffee for Noel Edmonds - I spat in it and watched him drink it, whilst he was being an objectionable cunt to everyone around him. I think your real egg is a more convoluted act of vindictive aggression, eggression if you like. I’m glad you’ve finally been able to unburden yourself from the guilt/enjoy sharing your malevolence.
God I can't wait til they find out whatever he raped hundreds of while the beeb covered it up.
 
so i went to lidl. i think jack went to asda, but my nearest asda is fucking miles away.
turns out jack goes to sainsbury's, if I recall correctly, is far more expensive than lidl or asda. I'm going to be trying the 40p red mushroom curry next, but if any kiwis have any suggestions for recipes to try, I'm all ears.

what would also be great if anyone knows if her cookbooks are on the internet archive / any other free sites? I've gone down a cooking with lady jack rabbit hole and I have far too much free time on my hands.
 
turns out jack goes to sainsbury's, if I recall correctly, is far more expensive than lidl or asda. I'm going to be trying the 40p red mushroom curry next, but if any kiwis have any suggestions for recipes to try, I'm all ears.

what would also be great if anyone knows if her cookbooks are on the internet archive / any other free sites? I've gone down a cooking with lady jack rabbit hole and I have far too much free time on my hands.


I can't inbed videos for some reason, but here's a much better recipe. Feed your whole family for about £6.50. Add curry powder if you want. Add cheese if you want.
 
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