Russian Special Military Operation in the Ukraine - Mark IV: The Partitioning of Discussion

[Agent of Z.O.G.]

My fucking hobbies are getting ruined by this Kholhol bullshit.
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Go a few isles down and buy some Space Marines™

 

[Lisdexamfetamine ℞]

Why is every video accompanied by absolute zoomercore crap music? Just show me a clip of war footage I don't need to hear some nigger mumbling over the top of it

I don't add the music myself lol but here are links to the 2 Wagner "movies" If you wanted I can't upload them here due to file size
I'd recommend the 2nd one it's about 55 minutes of Wagner during last winter but it's raw audio no "zoomercore"
1.

https://mega.nz/file/CzJSGBCK#EBGbJop-mNJ5zb6aF6ajJmwsHo2_lFYcJ6oyZbG8kCY

2.

https://mega.nz/file/CrwkVI7C#UO847osMG6zwCujDVIX9mDfKtQV5y0LRhs6l-dJVSzs

 

[Mary the Goldsmith]

Why is every video accompanied by absolute zoomercore crap music? Just show me a clip of war footage I don't need to hear some nigger mumbling over the top of it

I said it before the thread split but adding zoomer music to war footage no matter which side should be considered a war crime.

Go a few isles down and buy some Space Marines™

How long do you think before we get a Space hohol chapter?

 

[prolapsed_cranium]

How did the Brits get ahold of them? Haven't had time to watch more videos, mostly shitposting and doing some work inbetween.
Like I know they repatriated everyone else, almost, including far more innocent groups. Yet they somehow got ahold of these guys who were on the Eastern Front and kept them? I gotta check out those vids if nobody knows more.

They ended up running West (in the truest Ukrainian of traditions) and got to Austria and surrendered to the Brits.

 

[IDanceonTrannyGraves]

Slightly off topic but WTF, I love Putin now.

 

[Betonhaus]

Slightly off topic but WTF, I love Putin now.

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I'll believe it when i see it

 

[Strix454]

How did the Brits get ahold of them? Haven't had time to watch more videos, mostly shitposting and doing some work inbetween.
Like I know they repatriated everyone else, almost, including far more innocent groups. Yet they somehow got ahold of these guys who were on the Eastern Front and kept them? I gotta check out those vids if nobody knows more.

At the end of the war, the division surrendered to the British in Austria. There then followed a series of dirty deals between the british, the vatican and the London-based Polish Government in Exile. The division was eventually handed over to the "free" poles in Italy (2nd Polish Corps).
Despite requests from the Soviet Union, they were not handed over because most of the soldiers in the division had been recruited within the borders of pre-1939 Poland. The Soviet Union protested but the British never turned the men over. In 1947, they were allowed into the UK and Canada with few to no questions asked.
Despite their actions in the war, the post-war Polish Exile government, the British and the Americans considered the Ukrainian exiles to be extremely useful in terms of intelligence operations and in terms of communicating with the Ukrainian postwar groups fighting against the Polish communist government and the Soviet Union. How much the "free" polish government knew or believed about what these Ukrainians had been up in Poland during the war is unclear.

 

[VargReallyDidNothingWrong]

I don't add the music myself lol but here are links to the 2 Wagner "movies" If you wanted I can't upload them here due to file size
I'd recommend the 2nd one it's about 55 minutes of Wagner during last winter but it's raw audio no "zoomercore"

Not directly accusing you of anything just thinking out loud

 

[Zbk3VmLfujjzjxBd43tL]

I'll believe it when i see it

It makes sense. Putin's main geopolitical goal (alongside China's) is basically to build the UN into an actual world government and use the fact that most nations view Russia/China as the lesser of two evils to hold a permanent majority in the Security Council (expanding the permanent members of the Security Council plus the General Assembly) and then use all the weird/creepy "UN initiatives" as a force for control over the world. It's more of a statist approach than the US/NATO-dominated world now which relies more on private banks, megacorporations, Blackrock, and shit like the IMF.

 

[Betonhaus]

It makes sense. Putin's main geopolitical goal (alongside China's) is basically to build the UN into an actual world government and use the fact that most nations view Russia/China as the lesser of two evils to hold a permanent majority in the Security Council (expanding the permanent members of the Security Council plus the General Assembly) and then use all the weird/creepy "UN initiatives" as a force for control over the world. It's more of a statist approach than the US/NATO-dominated world now which relies more on private banks, megacorporations, Blackrock, and shit like the IMF.

Is this what the ninjas whisper to you from under your bed at night?

 

[VargReallyDidNothingWrong]

It makes sense. Putin's main geopolitical goal (alongside China's) is basically to build the UN into an actual world government and use the fact that most nations view Russia/China as the lesser of two evils to hold a permanent majority in the Security Council (expanding the permanent members of the Security Council plus the General Assembly) and then use all the weird/creepy "UN initiatives" as a force for control over the world. It's more of a statist approach than the US/NATO-dominated world now which relies more on private banks, megacorporations, Blackrock, and shit like the IMF.

"Russia is weak and useless and militarily can't even handle fighting a backwater shithole!!"
"Russia wants to turn the UN into a de facto world government and basically control the whole world"

 

[Kiwiballs]

At the end of the war, the division surrendered to the British in Austria. There then followed a series of dirty deals between the british, the vatican and the London-based Polish Government in Exile. The division was eventually handed over to the "free" poles in Italy (2nd Polish Corps).
Despite requests from the Soviet Union, they were not handed over because most of the soldiers in the division had been recruited within the borders of pre-1939 Poland. The Soviet Union protested but the British never turned the men over. In 1947, they were allowed into the UK and Canada with few to no questions asked.
Despite their actions in the war, the post-war Polish Exile government, the British and the Americans considered the Ukrainian exiles to be extremely useful in terms of intelligence operations and in terms of communicating with the Ukrainian postwar groups fighting against the Polish communist government and the Soviet Union. How much the "free" polish government knew or believed about what these Ukrainians had been up in Poland during the war is unclear.

It's so unbelievable that the poles would agree to this. But like you say, they may not have known enough in the early post war days.
They wouldn't accept the Vlaslovs White Russians that at the end even defected to the allies and fought the Germans with Czech Partizans but they accepted these guys...



God I wish I wasn't interested in history as a kid. My life would be so much simpler and I wouldn't suffer these existential crises I am now thinking about things like "Are we the baddies". Or more likely "are everyone the baddies?"


Imagine how simple things would be if you just turned on the news for 30 minutes every day, had a Ukraine flag on your social media profile, complained a little bit about how "civilians on both sides don't deserve to die" inbetween the coffee break in regards to Israel-Palestine while waiting for your Tesla to be charged with dirty coal power thinking you're doing the world and the environment a favour.
I'd fucking pay for a brainwashing at this point. Im serious.

How do you guys cope?

 

[Zbk3VmLfujjzjxBd43tL]

Is this what the ninjas whisper to you from under your bed at night?

Check this series of articles. I found them on Zero Hedge (someone on this site linked it last year), it brings up a lot of interesting points even if I don't totally agree with all of it. It's clear that Xi and Putin want a multipolar world order, and the best way of making it function is through the United Nations.

 

[The Elusive Earl]

There you go:

https://www.scalemates.com/kits/planet-models-plt279-hesa-shahed-136-geran-2--1479903

I don't build resin, this shit is way too dangerous.

Sorry for OT, but why is resin dangerous? Is it the glue? Most of the models I've built were plastic, but some might have been resin.

 

[Vesperus]

How do you guys cope?

Alcohol and sardonic laughter.
But mainly alcohol.

 

[Michael Wade]

Alcohol and sardonic laughter.
But mainly alcohol.

God built me with the ability to forget traumatic imagery and details on command. I'm not good with names but it's quite a gift otherwise.

 

[VargReallyDidNothingWrong]

It's clear that Xi and Putin want a multipolar world order, and the best way of making it function is through the United Nations.

It's incredible that a "multipolar world" is being equated to essentially control over the world and the installation of a world government.

Gotta monger that fear, I guess. It will be a catastrophe of epic proportions if countries will have to use diplomacy and compromise over issues.

 

[Yak-130 Mitten]

Sorry for OT, but why is resin dangerous? Is it the glue? Most of the models I've built were plastic, but some might have been resin.

If you've built models in the past, and all the parts were in the sprues - it was plastic.

Plastic is somewhat elastic, and can be worked on pretty easily. Resin on the other hand will break before it bends, it's very hard but brittle. You need to be careful when working on it because it breaks easily. As to why it's dangerous, in order to have required parts or make it fit, you need to cut it, and many people use rotary tools for it. Many however do not know that resin dust is very fine, and it can work the same way as asbestos does - it settles in your lungs and can cause cancer. Usually when working with resin you should have your room very well ventilated, at best with a working exhaust vacuum, a tightly fitted face mask (at best with proper filter) and protective glasses, because it can shatter. Personally I only once used additions from resin, it broke when trying to fit onto the model, and I gave up.

 

[VargReallyDidNothingWrong]

As to why it's dangerous, in order to have required parts or make it fit, you need to cut it, and many people use rotary tools for it. Many however do not know that resin dust is very fine, and it can work the same way as asbestos does - it settles in your lungs and can cause cancer.

If you're doing anything with a Dremel and you aren't wearing eye protection and a dust mask you deserve whatever mesothelioma, lung cancer, or blindness you get from a piece of something being launched directly into your cornea from an 18000 RPM sanding drum

 

[Yak-130 Mitten]

If you're doing anything with a Dremel and you aren't wearing eye protection and a dust mask you deserve whatever mesothelioma, lung cancer, or blindness you get from a piece of something being launched directly into your cornea from an 18000 RPM sanding drum

You can work plastic and dried glue at low speeds without protections, but not with resin.