Coming Out to Friends as a Transphobe

[Lake]

I don't have any friends that are alphabet people, now that I think on it. Not even alphabet-adjacent. Huh.

Why are so many of you friends with perverts?

 

[smegma enthusiast]

I’m about to start my sophomore year in college. I go to a university that’s known to be quite pozzed (yes, it is in California.) I go there for other reasons obviously but I was afraid that, as a covert Kiwi I would be instantly cornered and forced to suck the pus out of tranny axe wounds. This school has about 20,000 students and I would notice 5-10 trannies around my daily school commute. I had one right next to me for my entire course who looked like a fucking ghoul with rainbow socks; I nicknamed him “Danny the Tranny” in my mind. I pray that his major isn’t in Economics else I might have to interact with him for the rest of my time at this school. Also, some of my more online friends are the “she/they” type (read: female) and an old friend of mine from middle school is now a “genderfluid gay boy” (read: fujoshi female).
However, somehow I have managed to become friends with normal people. I think staying on Kiwifarms too much makes you think people will hate you for expressing any differing opinions but most not-chronically-online people really don’t give a shit and the only tranny exposure is from a few trooned-out celebrities, which makes most of their opinions the “it doesn’t effect me” type. Because these people are normal I’ve noticed that they naturally stay away from the troons and the mentally deranged on campus. I’m in a roommate group for my upcoming semester and we have an empty spot in our campus apartment, which was filled by a mysterious “Amanda.” I realized that the rest of these sorority girls never thought of the possibility of a tranny roommate. What peace they must have…
Anyways, I think most normal people have a natural aversion to trannies but that they’ve been taught to be “tolerant” and to “live as let live” or whatever. I enjoy talking to people and learning more about not just what they think, but why they think that way. The troons are just one part of that. I wouldn’t be friends with anyone who has a black-and-white, good vs. irredeemable complex because it’s just impossible to bring up anything new in conversation without walking on eggshells.

 

[Jelli]

I nicknamed him “Danny the Tranny” in my mind. I pray that his major isn’t in Economics else I might have to interact with him for the rest of my time at this school.

These people tend to self filter, and as people get more experience with them normies tend to pick up some dispositions.
Unless you go to work in HR or some shit this is as pozzed as you'll need to deal with in life.

 

[glow]

I think staying on Kiwifarms too much makes you think people will hate you for expressing any differing opinions but most not-chronically-online people really don’t give a shit and the only tranny exposure is from a few trooned-out celebrities, which makes most of their opinions the “it doesn’t effect me” type.

Beware. Some people are too scared to disagree with you to your face but will chat shit behind your back. Some will even agree with you only to repeat your comments out of context later. Many such cases, very sad.

 

[Alex Hogendorp]

I don't trust to be around transgender people longer than a few hours. Especially the troons documented on the farms and avoided talking to 'friends' who went down that road. These people end up depressed which in return makes it painful to exchange information with them.

 

[Autistic Orson Welles]

I finally lost my last tabletop RPG friend group earlier this year because I told them there was no way I was going to invite an enby into our campaign (which I ran). This was supposedly a lawyer who, in his 40s, decided to "transition" into being "non-binary" and now went by plural pronouns. The funny part was that I don't really give a shit, but I'm not going to break the fundamental rules of English in number agreement in order to appease an obvious sexual predator: he is a man, I will call him "he." If I have to put up with him, he should have to put up with me.

Of course "they" would not have seen it that way. He would have gone berserk the first time I "misgendered" him. I've tried playing nice with troons over the years, but it's pointless. These are the exact kinds of people who will get you fired from your job the moment they find out you don't support mutilating and poisoning minors; you want me to be tolerant to them in reverse? No thanks. There's no point. It was better to disband the group and find something new. After a similar experience at the end of 2022, I decided I wasn't going to associate with people like this anymore. I am resolute to be friends only with transphobes moving forward.

I guess what really stands out to me is that this group already knew I was an extremely problematic transphobe. But nobody gave a fuck, until it came to a "non-binary." Literally the stupidest and most deranged side-cult of troonism. Something that makes no sense whatsoever. Utter nonsense. THAT is where the line is drawn? I can kind of understand why someone might think some disgusting TIM is just a poor, oppressed minority; but non-binaries? Really? And this was a group of four normies!

Just goes to show that this is the stupidest ideology in the world.

 

[Nonconsentual Pronouns]

I finally lost my last tabletop RPG friend group earlier this year because I told them there was no way I was going to invite an enby into our campaign (which I ran).

TFW the people who claim to be genocide victims are perpetrating genocide against TTG groups. I hope you live somewhere less blue than I so that you have a chance at finding a few sane people to form a new group with. I know how you feel.

 

[Autistic Orson Welles]

TFW the people who claim to be genocide victims are perpetrating genocide against TTG groups. I hope you live somewhere less blue than I so that you have a chance at finding a few sane people to form a new group with. I know how you feel.

Nope. It's been impossible to put anything else together. I tried for a few months--mostly online--but I've given up now. I don't know what it is that has made TTRPGs so pozzed, but it really is like an autistic genocide. Games are now starting to not only include ridiculous "safety tools," but "gender identity generators." Fantastic. And in a Discord for one of my favorite systems, a guy said, "I just can't use the slave rules for this game. I find them really triggering, since I'm black."

Rather than being mocked for mental retardation, huge swathes of people actually agreed with him. That was the moment when I knew I had to quit.

But the troons are everywhere. It's especially bad for the independent RPGs that I like. It used to be that there was a 50/50 chance that someone with a female name would be a woman vs. a troon. Now it's more like 95% troon. This seems to be happening in basically every gaming circle, even the ones that seemed very far to the right ~5 years ago.

 

[Vect]

Not friends, but family - one of my female cousins who has a very large social media circle just got married, and my aunt showed me a picture of her ex-ex boyfriend who trooned out and remained friends with her. Surprise, he looks exactly like you'd expect, a towering, bespectacled orangutan with an AGP smirk and a dress that he'd obviously pinched from an old folks home. Can't tell for sure, but he's probably skinwalking as her as well. Thankfully, my aunt, who is as liberal as they come, said he looked hideous and was well informed on troon bullshit, including the Witch Trials of J.K Rowling and was well on-board with the LGB without the T thing. I kept my mouth in check but I've decided I'm going to make my feelings known every chance I get because it's confirmation to me that peaking people on this stuff requires only the slightest shift in perspective.

 

[Merton J. Dingle]

I finally lost my last tabletop RPG friend group earlier this year because I told them there was no way I was going to invite an enby into our campaign (which I ran). This was supposedly a lawyer who, in his 40s, decided to "transition" into being "non-binary" and now went by plural pronouns. The funny part was that I don't really give a shit, but I'm not going to break the fundamental rules of English in number agreement in order to appease an obvious sexual predator: he is a man, I will call him "he." If I have to put up with him, he should have to put up with me.

Of course "they" would not have seen it that way. He would have gone berserk the first time I "misgendered" him. I've tried playing nice with troons over the years, but it's pointless. These are the exact kinds of people who will get you fired from your job the moment they find out you don't support mutilating and poisoning minors; you want me to be tolerant to them in reverse? No thanks. There's no point. It was better to disband the group and find something new. After a similar experience at the end of 2022, I decided I wasn't going to associate with people like this anymore. I am resolute to be friends only with transphobes moving forward.

I guess what really stands out to me is that this group already knew I was an extremely problematic transphobe. But nobody gave a fuck, until it came to a "non-binary." Literally the stupidest and most deranged side-cult of troonism. Something that makes no sense whatsoever. Utter nonsense. THAT is where the line is drawn? I can kind of understand why someone might think some disgusting TIM is just a poor, oppressed minority; but non-binaries? Really? And this was a group of four normies!

Just goes to show that this is the stupidest ideology in the world.

Non-binary is by far the dumbest cultural trend that I've seen in my lifetime. It's so blatantly obvious that it's a fad, but people continue to push the "born this way" mentality and try to use other/older cultures' interpretations of "gender" to act as though enbies have always been around.

 

[Mothra1988]

Stop caring what other people think. I lost friends over my opinions before. Don't give a shit, because they were revealing themselves to not be real friends in that case. If you are only friends because they agree with you, you're not real friends. Trying to fit in with people that only like you if you agree is high school level stuff.

 

[Quartermaster]

I've known my online friends for around 12 years at this point, some I have known for longer.

I have never made it a secret that I abhor deviant shit be it gender, anime pornography, furry shit or constantly talking about such things.
I like to think that my attitude made them shut up about these things around me over the years.
We have made it a yearly thing now to meet up and its always a blast.

We've moved from chat program to chat program, going from irc to skype and now discord and are already on the lookout for the next thing to move to for obvious reasons.

I think it's important to line these facts up as this place, our discord server, has had three more active members this year.
Two of them recently turned 18, they're absolute coomers and I can't fucking stand them.

One of them constantly moans and whines during calls to the point where I have him permanently muted now, we also constantly butt heads because of my aforementioned takes I don't hold back.
This includes me disliking pride month and all the different flavors of trans days.

Thankfuly he is a retarded gay zoomer who doesn't know how to argue so he couldn't pin any of the isms and phobes onto me and he apologized to me several times.

This repeated several times over this year I might add, it's clear he sees me as an enemy and is just waiting for a chink in my armor.

At this point I just completely ignore his existance.

Another guy is a nigger, also barely 18 years old who hasn't done anything with the community for like, 2 years. No one knew shit about him until now.
I tried to include him but it never went anywhere so I just gave up eventually.
Now out of nowhere he just revealed he wants to use female pronouns, I told him that I caution against it as it leads nowhere good. He and the gay boy tried to go balistic against me in pretty petty ways and I just threw up my hands and said "Alright, do whatever, I don't care."

My actual friends still defended me and were on my side but they're still friends with the gay boy and niggerfaggot so things are quite awkward right now.

I find it very hard at this point to hold back my hatred for them and it is causing obvious tension as my actual friends try to appease me too. They're just able to tolerate far more than I can.

And it just sucks all around, I have these people of gender right on my doorstep and I have no clue how to deal with it.

The obvious choice is leaving for greener pastures, but I would rather not throw away 12 years of friendship and a yearly meetup with said friends over gay zoomers.

I am just at a loss.

 

[Lady Bizness]

So I was given a small progress flag to post in my office. It's garbage day. I snuck the thing home, rolled it into an empty paper towel roll, and will be shoving it into our garbage can. I'm that paranoid.

I just don't get the point of everyone having these things everywhere. Does it create a gay forcefield? Like in Annihilation? If so, I'm glad I'm throwing it out.

Anyway I guess I'm not completely out. The way my gay cousin described dancing with a girl at prom resonates with how I felt putting that flag up.

 

[Merry]

It's comical being in local music scenes and seeing them play musical chairs with the big """progressive""" issue of the time. They get sus of people who don't stick their dick in that crazy, sometimes literally too, lost more than a few friends because other retards accused me of "Fascism" for not wanting to fuck a gay guy or weird barbie doll looking girls

 

[TruffleSpark]

So I was given a small progress flag to post in my office. It's garbage day. I snuck the thing home, rolled it into an empty paper towel roll, and will be shoving it into our garbage can. I'm that paranoid.

I just don't get the point of everyone having these things everywhere. Does it create a gay forcefield? Like in Annihilation? If so, I'm glad I'm throwing it out.

Anyway I guess I'm not completely out. The way my gay cousin described dancing with a girl at prom resonates with how I felt putting that flag up.

The NPC flag is actually a great metaphor for how the gay rights movement has been co-opted.

troons hate actual same sex attracted people for refusing to validate their gender identity by fucking them

 

[Raspberry Pi]

One of my main hobbies has been "captured" by alphabet people. I still participate but I've stepped back from being involved in organizing events because instead of it being fun it's now just one drama after another.

One of my other hobbies has a lot of people who firmly subscribe to the idea of be kind. Unfortunately that only applies to being kind to trannies. I once made the mistake of saying something that went against accepted sentiment (only slightly too), and got told I was on the wrong side of history, that my biology knowledge was outdated and that I didn't truly understand what it was to be human, etc....

Fortunately, I'm getting old compared to some of the people in that social group so I got treated like a kindly old person who just doesn't understand. After I got that lecture some of the other people closer to my age came and privately agreed with me. I'm reluctant to totally out myself because that hobby is also a portion of my income and I can't afford to be canceled (yet). I'm working on an exit strategy though.

 

[Accidental Protege]

I just wanted to vent. I came out as a transphobe to my law school classmates the other day in class and it started a big to-do and I'm still mad about it. I just can't comprehend the lack of critical thinking and intellectual curiosity it takes to get to the point where you think men can just magically transform into women by saying the magic words "I am a woman," and consider yourself a radical feminist. I am totally fine with having a reputation of being "transphobic," because even pretending to think otherwise makes me sick, but just holding this opinion is fucking exhausting sometimes.

The worst part is I don't have anyone to talk to about it. Most of my school friends are liberals who know what my opinion is, but are either mature enough to not care or don't know enough about the topic to argue about it. Outside of school, most people don't see how it's an issue and don't understand why I even care about it. Even my boyfriend. I'm just so frustrated and tired. I'm half expecting to get an email from the dean as a reprimand, when the other students were the ones being rude and nasty about it. "Men aren't women" isn't my opinion, it's literal fact, and I'm so sick of people pretending otherwise.

 

[soryu2electricboogaloo]

I'm greatful to be surrounded by other transphobes. It's really refreshing.
I used to live surrounded by troon enablers, family included. I was briefly an enby a decade ago. I have a sister who's pretty much engulfed in yuppie handmaiden behavior because she's been in college for so many years. I've dated a guy who said he disliked troons, then once in a blue moon would get upset hearing news of a troon dying from lying to a dude and getting shot. It was practically inescapable.
Now in the new area I live in, a troon will walk into my job and everyone in the office will look at each other with a surprised face and go "I can't..." the moment he leaves the facility. I've even been to a gay bar and the gays there just stare down the troons and shake their head when they turn away. I have very close friends who make "ack!" jokes and we have philosophical discussions about why troons are troons and what goes on through their delusional minds. It's truly a different world where I'm at now.
With all that, I've become aware of how enabling I was to troonism when I lived where I used to. I used to have Internet friends who've trooned out and I just kept them around for nearly a decade. Recently, I saw an Internet friend start to develop a female persona and quickly was able to get an estrogen prescription. I knew he was always struggling with something. I have become so bold living where I'm at now and surrounded with the based people of my city, I decided to message this Internet friend how much I thought he was being so self destructive and how this path of life is going to be a huge mistake. I instantly lost like 9 Internet friends in a matter of minutes. The last thing I saw about the message was he shared a screenshot of it to his enablers and some troon in replies was going like "They don't understand how HAPPY you are now! You're safe here!"
Such is life. It just takes a moment to realize you can't change someone, I can't influence someone to get out of their ways.

 

[Lady Bizness]

After I got that lecture some of the other people closer to my age came and privately agreed with me.

I'm not out, but I think people know because I'm the one they come to when they peak. Then they unpeak and go right on with those pronouns in their emails. I feel like everyone's favorite weed dealer.

 

[Druveer]

You're not "transphobic" friends, you're just normal. Most people are off put by adults playing pretend.