r/mendrawingwomen - "STOP DRAWING WOMEN THE WAY YOU WANT TO"

[PaladinBoo]

https://www.reddit.com/r/mendrawingwomen/comments/176u37c/adam_hughes/

Spoiler: The artwork posted

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This was painted by Adam Hughes. It possesses no real anatomical mistakes or unintentional ugliness caused by being too focused on sexual arousal rather than actual beauty and these aren't interfering negatively in any sort of visual story what could be the issue?

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The fact that it caters to men's sense of beauty is somehow an issue

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The guy who painted these has a type. Who cares?


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So do you seethe at real women who look like this?

Honestly, this pretty much proves that these people dislike men liking stuff. I'm not exactly sure what is the issue, the commenters all agree that these are good paintings with no issues.

What is wrong with these pictures? They are all very good and capture the beauty and femininity of those characters. If these women ever took a college art class they would have a stroke given that many classes have you draw from nude models. Especially female models who are usually physically fit. Sorry but obesity is gross. Not to mention that obese models are much harder to draw then models who are physically fit. Models of men and women in their physical prime have been popular for centuries because, not only does it capture humans at their best, but also because it is more aesthetically pleasing on the eyes. That is why there are very rarely any famous art work featuring fat people. The only one I can think of are portraits of Henry VIII but he was royalty so that kind of doesn't count.

 

[teriyakiburns]

That is why there are very rarely any famous art work featuring fat people. The only one I can think of are portraits of Henry VIII but he was royalty so that kind of doesn't count

There are loads. Half if Reubens' output was fat women. The Pre-Raphaelites basically lived to paint fatties in rustic scenery. Large women have been a staple of art, and the subject of works by grand masters since at least the 14th century. The reason, often as not, is because they're hard to depict.

It's not the body shape that matters. The problem these people have is that men are looking at women and being attracted to them; they would be the first to complain about Reubens' "Venus at the mirror" because of its perceived sexualised nature.

 

[PaladinBoo]

There are loads. Half if Reubens' output was fat women. The Pre-Raphaelites basically lived to paint fatties in rustic scenery. Large women have been a staple of art, and the subject of works by grand masters since at least the 14th century.

Yes, there is plump and then there is obese. For instance the painting Falling into Hell had fat models in it but Reubens, I believe, was trying to convey the sin of gluttony and those who are gluttonous falling into the pits of hell. Makes sense for the subject matter. Of course the fat women in many of those portraits look more like a healthy plump then fat or were more on the voluptuous side of fat. At least by today's standards. Not to mention that, back then, women who were a little more plump and curvy probably came from a wealthy background as they could afford to eat three meals a day and got to eat the finest of foods. These women were also more likely to be patrons to artists such as Reuben.

 

[SwanSwanson]

Reddit user SonaSierra19(don't harass her) has made another post seething about Adam Hughes

https://www.reddit.com/r/mendrawing...or_those_of_you_fighting_in_the_trenches_for/

Title:

"For those of you fighting in the trenches for Adam Hughes"

Spoiler: the drawings/instructions in question

If anything this should be helping men learn how to draw women, don't overpose, and dont make their breasts too big.

 

[Mad Mamba]

Sorry to reiterate what's been posted a million times before but the thing that bothers me about shit like this is that there are absolutely artists who draw women badly in an attempt to make them look sexy (and fail miserably in the process). A friend and I routinely mock such artists. For example, Haganef...

Spoiler: NSFW and generally not very good

But the reasons they're complaining aren't because the art is bad or stylized or whatever, it's because it portrays women in a sexually appealing manner. Now, personally the above art I don't think is even particularly sexy thanks to the grotesque exaggeration. But you don't even have to go realistic with proportions for it to work. Look at Takahiro Kimura's art (may he rest in peace).

Spoiler: NSFW

His art is very stylized/exaggerated/unrealistic, but it still works, cinched waists and all.

Anyway, point being that it seems these people are upset by the mere idea that a man (or woman) might find art of a woman erotic, hence them sperging about perfectly good art because "Boobs? REEEEE". In fact, Kimura's art was once posted on there IIRC. It really does seem to confirm the theory that those sorts of people just hate good, beautiful things and want ugliness normalized.

 

[RX-78]

Sorry to reiterate what's been posted a million times before but the thing that bothers me about shit like this is that there are absolutely artists who draw women badly in an attempt to make them look sexy (and fail miserably in the process). A friend and I routinely mock such artists. For example, Haganef...

Spoiler: NSFW and generally not very good

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But the reasons they're complaining aren't because the art is bad or stylized or whatever, it's because it portrays women in a sexually appealing manner. Now, personally the above art I don't think is even particularly sexy thanks to the grotesque exaggeration. But you don't even have to go realistic with proportions for it to work. Look at Takahiro Kimura's art (may he rest in peace).

Spoiler: NSFW

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His art is very stylized/exaggerated/unrealistic, but it still works, cinched waists and all.

Anyway, point being that it seems these people are upset by the mere idea that a man (or woman) might find art of a woman erotic, hence them sperging about perfectly good art because "Boobs? REEEEE". In fact, Kimura's art was once posted on there IIRC. It really does seem to confirm the theory that those sorts of people just hate good, beautiful things and want ugliness normalized.

That 2D is still sexier than anything the freaks running the subreddit would approve of, to say nothing of the touch starved themselves lamo.

 

[Monolith]

Sorry to reiterate what's been posted a million times before but the thing that bothers me about shit like this is that there are absolutely artists who draw women badly in an attempt to make them look sexy (and fail miserably in the process). A friend and I routinely mock such artists. For example, Haganef...

Spoiler: NSFW and generally not very good

View attachment 5426586

But the reasons they're complaining aren't because the art is bad or stylized or whatever, it's because it portrays women in a sexually appealing manner. Now, personally the above art I don't think is even particularly sexy thanks to the grotesque exaggeration. But you don't even have to go realistic with proportions for it to work. Look at Takahiro Kimura's art (may he rest in peace).

Spoiler: NSFW

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His art is very stylized/exaggerated/unrealistic, but it still works, cinched waists and all.

Anyway, point being that it seems these people are upset by the mere idea that a man (or woman) might find art of a woman erotic, hence them sperging about perfectly good art because "Boobs? REEEEE". In fact, Kimura's art was once posted on there IIRC. It really does seem to confirm the theory that those sorts of people just hate good, beautiful things and want ugliness normalized.

I will admit, for images like the top one, I like it when people draw their skeletons more than the actual images.

 

[The Grognard]

Anyway, point being that it seems these people are upset by the mere idea that a man (or woman) might find art of a woman erotic, hence them sperging about perfectly good art because "Boobs? REEEEE". In fact, Kimura's art was once posted on there IIRC. It really does seem to confirm the theory that those sorts of people just hate good, beautiful things and want ugliness normalized.

Don't forget the Dobson-clones who do this sort of virtue signalling for the sake of trying to please whatever m'lady they have in their head with showing how much of a good male feminist they are.

 

[kcbbq]

There are loads. Half if Reubens' output was fat women. The Pre-Raphaelites basically lived to paint fatties in rustic scenery. Large women have been a staple of art, and the subject of works by grand masters since at least the 14th century. The reason, often as not, is because they're hard to depict.

It's not the body shape that matters. The problem these people have is that men are looking at women and being attracted to them; they would be the first to complain about Reubens' "Venus at the mirror" because of its perceived sexualised nature.

Reubens paintings mostly look like they do because it was extremely taboo to use female models, nude or not (most places the only way was to hire hookers), while you could get male models from any debtor's prison or insane asylum. Even if you went the prostitute route you had to pay much, much more because women modeling was destroying their character, even in the case of the prostitutes.

So his paintings are of male models with female features built over the male frame.

Strange times.

Or, if it was Michelangelo, he just didn't really know what women looked like. At all.

 

[SwanSwanson]

Sorry to reiterate what's been posted a million times before but the thing that bothers me about shit like this is that there are absolutely artists who draw women badly in an attempt to make them look sexy (and fail miserably in the process). A friend and I routinely mock such artists. For example, Haganef...

Spoiler: NSFW and generally not very good

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But the reasons they're complaining aren't because the art is bad or stylized or whatever, it's because it portrays women in a sexually appealing manner. Now, personally the above art I don't think is even particularly sexy thanks to the grotesque exaggeration. But you don't even have to go realistic with proportions for it to work. Look at Takahiro Kimura's art (may he rest in peace).

Spoiler: NSFW

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His art is very stylized/exaggerated/unrealistic, but it still works, cinched waists and all.

Anyway, point being that it seems these people are upset by the mere idea that a man (or woman) might find art of a woman erotic, hence them sperging about perfectly good art because "Boobs? REEEEE". In fact, Kimura's art was once posted on there IIRC. It really does seem to confirm the theory that those sorts of people just hate good, beautiful things and want ugliness normalized.

Failed miserably? I don't know, I felt like whoever drew that must've enjoyed it.

 

[Judge Dredd]

I think both sides are retarded. Sometimes folks play games not be reminded of this boring as reality, but at the same time, don’t be surprised if a related games makes their characters…well realistic? You’re better off playing breath of the wild than getting ass blasted over a 2d game woman. And live action nami looks fine. I don’t really care for the media brought up in those post and probably won’t in the foreseeable future.

Sorry I'm late (I don't check the thread often) but I want to ask how old you are?

I'm not that old (late 30s) but I've seen this before with the violent games debate. The general argument then was that all games were violent. They'd list popular games of the time like Manhunt and Grand Theft Auto, but when you bring up non-violent popular games like FIFA and Tetris, they'd have no answer.

This is the case here. Want to play a game without big titty anime waifus? Play literally any game of the last decade. From The Last of Us 2 to Cities Skylines.

The problem is FOMO. They HAVE to play the latest big release to be part of the zeitgeist, to "have an opinion" or "be part of the conversation". This is part of the reason so many ResetEra types want games to be short and easy. They want to, have to play these games because they are the best games, the most popular games, but they can't handle the content.

Especially female models who are usually physically fit. Sorry but obesity is gross. Not to mention that obese models are much harder to draw then models who are physically fit.

That is why they do it. While I was never formally trained as an artist, from those I know that were, by the time you get to figure drawing your thought isn't "this model is hot/gross" it's "Fuck, I didn't draw the wrinkles on the shoulder right."

 

[Corn Flakes]

That is why they do it. While I was never formally trained as an artist, from those I know that were, by the time you get to figure drawing your thought isn't "this model is hot/gross" it's "Fuck, I didn't draw the wrinkles on the shoulder right."

On the other hand, a lot of porn/erotic artists just settle on a body type they really like and never move away from it. In that case it really is just "it's hot and it releases the happy brain chemicals." And hey, more power to them. At least they're making money off something they like.

And honestly, it's no different from the SJW artists drawing ugly people and hairy CalArts women. They're doing it for the dopamine hit, too. Just not the "it's sexy so I'm happy" hit, but the "this is going to get me so many asspats on Reddit and I'm happy" hit.

 

[weirdMcGee]

A bit far fetched ngl. The only reason tumblr artist design ugly characters is out of rebellion against the status quo (read: normal biological drives). They don't particularly like what they make. I'd wager they're forced by outside pressures to uglify everything they see. in their eyes, true art is disgusting. Art shouldn't elicit happiness in the viewer, but at the same time, instill a sense of belonging towards retards yearning for social upheaval. Deep down they know sex and beauty sell yet they refuse. As far as they're concerned, it's the fault of the patriarchy or whatever scapegoat for pushing their supposed "ideologies" and brainwashing impressionable minds into "sexist, problematic body standards".

News flash, humans since prehistory always liked peak attractiveness, or at least anything coming close to it. Those at top shape signals to potential mates they're young gain a higher chance of procreation than some fat twitterlard. Men especially look for women with fertile, nubile features since it's ingrained in their nature. Some societal nurturing changed a few things, but it boils down to this, men chase after women who they see as fertile and women accept men who they see as virile. My opinion might deviate a bit as all humans are visual creatures. Women are just as likely to judge a man on looks just as man will in turn. It's basic mate selection. Women are bigger judges in the courtship tribunal as they decide which men is worthy to mate or worthy to die. Thus, men in the olden days were more likely to work on being attractive. Not only that, women too increased their odds by alienating the competition to make themselves more enticing.

once the turn of centuries passed us by, those former foundations have crumbled a bit. What was once the normal order the things was now a perversion of ancient times. We have social groups emasculating men and encouraging "safe horny" displays of lust like simping for "dommy mommies" or "femboys" and women whoring themselves to the delights of perverted lesser males.

These people are the very evils corrupting our way of life because lord forbid a woman is just that: pretty. Not pretty in a unconventional way or pretty because the dykes said so. She herself evokes a bygone era where men and women weren't these horrid caricatures they are today. Maybe some the examples they bemoan are unnecessarily sexualized but attractive characters aren't the end of the world.

Spoiler

As a woman myself, I don't care about attractive fictional women because they're not real. They're so damn idealized my brain can't fathom them as a threat to me or other women. Imagine wasting your time on this earth over 2d anime girls with huge bazoongas. God, that's a shit way to live if i've ever seen it.

it's a shame this spiralled into a exchange of the usual stuff: some can't divide the fiction from reality and thus influences their worldview until it's the only valid one. Not to say boobs have a impact on young men if pornsickness is to be belived. I'm just wary about it's true effects as articles studying this phenomenon remain inconclusive. Can sexualized art of women change a person's perceptions of others? maybe? but in the end, it's dependant on whether a someone lets it get to them. A Strong man knows porn has no power over him because ultimately it's not real but a weak man does, which drives him to more and more depravity until he game ends himself.

 

[Mumbo Jumbo]

This subs thoughts on kill la kill.

Spoiler

 

[Lone Star]

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For God's sake, if you're gonna post so many massive images, put it all under a spoiler.

 

[RIPRhongoBongo]

Surprised it took them this long to start crying about KLK.

 

[Toolbox]

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Best parts are some users asking for pictures of a guy in cosplay as the scantily clad protagonist for clearly sexual reasons in a sub dedicated to complaining about men doing this to fictional women, and them trying to pull the 'sexualized underage character' card with this one like they did with a character that's actually an adult before. At least here it appears they're technically correct, if a random fandom wiki is to be believed, saying Ryuko is 17, but she's a character actually drawn the same adults are in anime, and they're clearly trying to pull the 'everything's loli pedo shit' again here.

 

[Xenomorphs Are Cute]

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I like how despite their usual femcel faggotry, half of them are still KLK shitposting.

KLK truly does unite everyone, even femcels.

 

[NaggotFigger]

I like how despite their usual femcel faggotry, half of them are still KLK shitposting.

KLK truly does unite everyone, even femcels.

Truly its fanservices make magic come true: People that loves the fanservice and the femcels that either watched it and hated it; or having a hate boner for it without watching it reunited into a community.
Autistic: By the way, if there was any KiwiFarmers' art popped up in the subreddit, it would be just insanity when they seethe over the dang dirty Farms! And it would be probably an another KF win in the slot to the public eye.

 

[Corn Flakes]

Surprised it took them this long to start crying about KLK.

Oh, it didn't. KLK sperging comes and goes.

Best parts are some users asking for pictures of a guy in cosplay as the scantily clad protagonist for clearly sexual reasons in a sub dedicated to complaining about men doing this to fictional women,

The irony is that more than a handful of buff dudes did that cosplay for a laugh, and everybody loves it because of how absurd it is.