Cultcow Russell Greer / @ just_some_dude_named_russell29 / A Safer Nevada PAC - Swift-Obsessed Sex Pest, Convicted of E-Stalking, "Eggshell Skull Plaintiff" Pro Se Litigant, Homeless, aspiring brothel owner

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If you were Taylor Swift, whom would you rather date?

  • Russell Greer

    Votes: 117 4.5%
  • Travis Kelce

    Votes: 138 5.3%
  • Null

    Votes: 1,449 55.9%
  • Kanye West

    Votes: 283 10.9%
  • Ariana Grande

    Votes: 607 23.4%

  • Total voters
    2,594
REST IN PEACE
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October 19, 1976 - October 16, 2023


Looking nearly impossible now. No judge will ever let the heckin evil cyberstalking trans genocide school shooter forum win any case past this point for fear of backlash.


Between this and Comcast fucking us over, I will be shocked if the site makes it to the end of next year. In any case, you better start decking your house with pride flags because these people will no longer show you any mercy.
His case is so blatantly bullshit it's not going to go anywhere, just being drawn out longer because some faggot retard judge said so
 
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So that gimpy faced faggot got his case appealed, doesn't matter because no woman will touch Rushole's peepee. Plus people ridiculed his works and that's the very definition of fair use. And LOL at using ED as a factual source, every admin of that site was either addicted to meth or had stolen money. These judges are almost as big of retards as rushole. Let's be honest they probably took one look at his ugly paralyzed mug and gave him a pity appeal.
 
if Section 230 goes before the altar
Section 230 is not at issue in the appeal. SCOTUS would have no jurisdiction to review it.
Sorry @Useful_Mistake I meant "linking someone's copyright, for free".
If you put it to the end of that link, perhaps. Though of course, if your linking consists of "Hey, brathers, CHECK THIS OUT! free copyrighted ILLEGAL russ stuff here, press link plz", then yes, perhaps you would be liable of damages. If you found something on some other Google Drive and just linked it, I do not believe it would count as contributory copyright infringement even in the 9th circuit (which is the most cucked in this regard).
Between this and Comcast fucking us over, I will be shocked if the site makes it to the end of next year. In any case, you better start decking your house with pride flags because these people will no longer show you any mercy.
Go doompost somewhere else
I think it varies by state, but I will withdraw my previous comment as I am not sure what the situation for that is in West Virginia where we are incorporated.
so I think something like safe harbor is completely out of the question
He doesn't have safe harbor because he did not comply with DMCA. There's an argument to be made about it and Skordas briefly touched on it in appellate court where it was pointless, but the underlying thing remains.
Could it be argued that publicly deriding the DMCA constituted more than "permitting"?
Why the fuck would Null argue points that would help the opposition? Null wants to not lose, and he's not supposed to help the opposition.
Is this normal for pro se
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It took me more time to draw the arrows than it took to look it up.
 
They state a bit higher their reasoning:
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They also state in there we caused a school shooting now too?
"Mr. Moon and Kiwi Farms users have been implicated in three suicides, a school shooting in New Mexico, and a clash with New Zealand authorities over information about terrorist attacks at mosques in Christchurch."

I think people are skimming over this bit a little too quickly. The courts are now regurgitating MSM reports of activists on social media as fact. The school shooting thing and the terrorist FUD, taken whole cloth in all it's lack of detail about being solely about busting people for viewing the video and manifesto and not having anything to do with the crimes themselves. This shit is going to never be refuted or countered thanks to the commentary nature of it. But it will be more than enough for activists and media to create headlines like "KF implicated by federal courts in deaths, school shootings and terrorism" whenever they talk about it. You know they will and you know they won't care that the courts made nothing like such claims in any sort of official or legal context.

And good luck in the continuing KF deplatforming wars, when no dong fong and friends links to court docs like this. This is what continual articles and claims (lies) is all about. Enshrining a narrative through repeated claim and insistence. With every new regurgitation adding to it's "legitimacy" and nature as a "fact".

Also.. What is this school shooting claim about again? I forget. (they claim so damn much)
 
REST IN PEACE
FAIR USE
October 19, 1976 - October 16, 2023


Looking nearly impossible now. No judge will ever let the heckin evil cyberstalking trans genocide school shooter forum win any case past this point for fear of backlash.


Between this and Comcast fucking us over, I will be shocked if the site makes it to the end of next year. In any case, you better start decking your house with pride flags because these people will no longer show you any mercy.
Man, it's not like retard doomers have said this 5000 times in the past and been dead-fucking wrong every single solitary time.

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Kindly fuck back off to A&H where you belong.
 
Dunno why Russel is acting like this is some kind of great victory. Getting past summary dismissal and being told "okay you can actually sue" isn't exactly a high bar here. He's still going to get demolished in court.

Literally all this court ruling is saying is "okay Russel -might- have a valid enough case to survive summary dismissal, let's let the lower courts do their thing".
 
Skordas dropped the ball by not arguing fair use, change my mind.
It would have been a weak argument that he most likely would have lost on. Arguing that Null does not meet all the criteria of contributory copyright infringement was the better option, especially in regards to motion to dismiss.
 
It would have been a weak argument that he most likely would have lost on. Arguing that Null does not meet all the criteria of contributory copyright infringement was the better option, especially in regards to motion to dismiss.
My layman's understanding is even raising the fair use argument would undermine the motion to dismiss right? If there isn't a valid claim in the first place you wouldn't jump ahead to arguing a defense against said claim. You might allude to intent to make that argument if the motion fails, but any more than that seems like it would be detrimental.
 
My layman's understanding is even raising the fair use argument would undermine the motion to dismiss right? If there isn't a valid claim in the first place you wouldn't jump ahead to arguing a defense against said claim.
You can argue multiple points independently if you so wish. That's actually a very popular tactic in defamation cases. "I did not defame you because it is true. And if not, then it was just my opinion. And if not then [insert liability limitator here]"
 
Perhaps I missed something in the last several pages of melodramatic faggotry and law-sperging, but I'm not totally clear on what the possible ramifications are here.

My understanding -- and I'm sure someone will correct me if I'm wrong -- is that at a minimum, this is a huge pain in the ass and expense for Null. And if things end up going Russ's way, then it'll be an enormous pain in the ass and expense for Null. And it'll all be especially demoralizing for all of us because Russ Greer, who in a less fallen world would've been eaten by his twin in the womb, would be the one behind it, and we'd get to archive his soggy victory lap.

But I haven't seen any other consequences being mentioned, and I'm curious if there are any realistic outcomes we need to worry about. Not that the aforementioned pain and expense aren't serious, but my simple little mind hasn't picked up on anything approaching an existential threat to the Farms here, outside of Null's willingness to persevere. And you'll have to forgive me, but I don't think the man who's essentially rebuilding the entire internet, piece by piece, in his spare bedroom in order to keep the site online is going to give up over a copyright claim. Not if he has any choice, anyway. I don't know what his finances are like, but I remember reading something about him being a crazy person with no assets. Provided he could figure out a way to pay any judgment against him -- and there are thousands of people who use this site who might be persuaded to pitch in -- I'm certain that he would keep going.

So my question is, am I missing something? Is there anything about this case, other than the potential expense and perhaps a few new rules about archiving copyrighted shit in the future, that might actually be a problem for the site?

As an aside, I would never make the mistake of trusting a lawyer, but I have to believe that Skordas isn't a complete idiot and might have a better handle on the situation than anyone reading here. It's not impossible he fucked up, but it seems more like Russ coasting on the pity card for the umpteenth time and the court erring on the side of letting the moron have another kick at the can now that he has actual lawyers. Russ can't do anything right, so while it would be darkly humorous for him to accidentally score the only W of his life against the Farms, it just doesn't seem probable. (It seems a bit unfair that he gets to call us murderous bullies and we don't get to counter that he's a talentless, rapey drool-golem who can't get laid in a whorehouse, though. But I guess that's justice for ya.) Though to be fair, Russ and his retarded legal arguments are incidental here. It would be the actual lawyers, not the failed paralegal, who did all the work.
 
So my question is, am I missing something? Is there anything about this case, other than the potential expense and perhaps a few new rules about archiving copyrighted shit in the future, that might actually be a problem for the site?
Jail time if Null does not comply with some sort of court order, but this aside, fees for copyright infringement is the worst possible thing that could happen to him from this.
It's not impossible he fucked up, but it seems more like Russ coasting on the pity card for the umpteenth time and the court erring on the side of letting the moron have another kick at the can now that he has actual lawyers.
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