2023 Israel-Palestine Armed Conflict

[LaxerBRO]

I'm having a hard time believing Hamas has the weapon capability of launching weapons that can level an entire building. Is there any other evidence of this happening?

I think the best thing to do is to wait for morning and see some daytime footage of bombed out hospital.

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P.S. Regarding the theories of the hospitals fuel and oxygen causing a secondary explosion from a "Hamas" rocket, that is a possibility...until the fact that the hospitals supply were nearly exhausted.

One other possibility is that Hamas was stealing the hospitals supplies and that same rocket strike set off the munitions in that truck

Though NGL, this seems to be an Israeli strike

 

[MadStan]

Everything falls at the same rate. If the height is known we can calculate how long it would take to fall. The speed of the missile can be estimated pretty well. This is a math problem. Where am I wrong?

Exactly. But we do not know the height. I am skeptical it was only 600 feet (which it would have. To be if Israel is to be believed) and would have thought it was well over a thousand. And the shrieking sound also would not make sense for a falling fragment that would be hardly moving fast enough to make said sound.

Based on that footage I’d have an easier time believing it was an Israeli missile strike than a fragmented Hamas rocket.

I hope I am totally wrong

 

[Vaclav]

Turkish protests already started and are marching towards the Israeli embassy, Israel told everyone to leave turkey immediately. In Jordan protesters are trying to break into the Israeli embassy

Hamas launches a bloody attack triggering a fierce reprisal from Israel. In retaliating, Israel infuriates hundreds of millions of surrounding Muslims. Perhaps this is Hamas's strategy? Everyone involved is far past the point of reason by now, it doesn't really matter who hit the hospital, both sides believe the other did it and it's a reason for both to get even angrier.

 

[TheBigZee]

Everything falls at the same rate. If the height is known we can calculate how long it would take to fall. The speed of the missile can be estimated pretty well. This is a math problem. Where am I wrong?

The midair explosion.

 

[redeyejedi]

Has anyone found pics of the buildings or impact zone? So many articles are using random destroyed Gaza building images and other attacks too. All i've found are right after. A lot of windows still intact right next to burning crap, including cars etc. It seems like the explosion was more of a fireball than full size (for the explosion seen) HE blast. I mean this could all be wrong, as i've said, only found a few images so far.

I was thinking the same thing. Lots of people describing it as levelled but haven't seen evidence of that

 

[Richard Freeman]

Berlin, Germany

L | A

Greece

L | A

Montreal, Canada

L | A

Rabat, Morocco

L | A

 

[TheBigZee]

Based on that footage I’d have an easier time believing it was an Israeli missile strike than a fragmented Hamas rocket.

The tweet from the IDF isn't even saying the debris from the rocket hit the hospital.

 

[Anasûrimbor Kellhus]

Well, it's happening. What the US and their allies need to do is confront it or face being overrun and trampled.

don't worry Joe is getting a fresh kid to sniff and a nice chocolate chocolate chip to get himself ready for administering some world peace.

 

[Leakage Current]

I'm having a hard time believing Hamas has the weapon capability of launching weapons that can level an entire building. Is there any other evidence of this happening?

Hamas' own statement is that they fired a R160. A R160 (a.k.a. Khaibar-1) has a 150kg payload. A 150kg payload will completely level a brick house up to 10 meter away. This is sufficient to completely destroy the main building of the Al-Ahli hospital, as per Google Maps.

 

[More AWS-8Q Than You]

Hamas launches a bloody attack triggering a fierce reprisal from Israel. In retaliating, Israel infuriates hundreds of millions of surrounding Muslims. Perhaps this is Hamas's strategy? Everyone involved is far past the point of reason by now, it doesn't really matter who hit the hospital, both sides believe the other did it and it's a reason for both to get even angrier.

Basically, most people, especially now, don't care about the truth, just the convincing narrative. It no longer matters who blew up the hospital, the narrative has been set and no one on either side is going to be swayed by the truth. Awfully convenient Israel would do the one thing that would get the rest of the Muslim world mad exactly when HAMAS needs it though.

People need to stop asking who blew up the hospital and start asking who benefits the most from it.

 

[gay]

unless Hamas gotten themselves that US bomb and a jet.

i'm waiting for Israel to tweet that Hamas/IS got their hands on US ordinance after Biden pulled out of Afghanistan and used their jets and their JDAM's to false flag obliterate a hospital because of reasons.

 

[Male Idiot]

There is a solution to the issue that hasn't been considered. Counter fire. The rocket going up would have revealed the launch site to Israeli Artillery. If Hamas launched the rocket close to the Hospital, all it would take is minor mathematical errors in the targeting solution or some counter fire radar operator fat fingering the wrong number to send the counter fire off course by 100 meters. Into the hospital instead of the launch site.

That could be it, the Israels misfiring, but that would still mean the hospital got Libertied. Though the IDF accidentally shoahing a hospital would be funny.

Exactly. But we do not know the height. I am skeptical it was only 600 feet (which it would have. To be if Israel is to be believed) and would have thought it was well over a thousand. And the shrieking sound also would not make sense for a falling fragment that would be hardly moving fast enough to make said sound.

Based on that footage I’d have an easier time believing it was an Israeli missile strike than a fragmented Hamas rocket.

I hope I am totally wrong

Even if it turns out that it was really Hamas rolling 20 nat1s in a row and actually responsible, I doubt the muslims care at this point.

Still, if the missile got hit by AA fire or an Iron dome interceptor, would the warhead land so well as to deliver that perfect strike AAAND make the US bomb sound?

Also Turkey has a SHITTON of refuggees. So those turks making a mess in Turkey may not even be real true and honest Türkye's either, but rather imported arabs that had been making shit happen in Turkey for years now.

 

[Rome's rightful successor]

Statement from Netanyahu regarding the hospital.

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"We investigate ourselves goyim and found we chosenites did nothing wrong"

 

[Vaclav]

Good job stupid cunts. Now the Jews know you are coming for them 24 hours later. You don’t see genocidal African warlords be this dumb. Palestinians make Pakistanis look smart.
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The goal of these threats may be to throw the Israelis into a panic over attacks from within. Just because they said they'll attack doesn't mean they'll do it. They can keep feinting and making these threats to stress Israel's security forces further and force them to split their attention between many different potential battlefronts. Israel is known for extreme reactions to danger so it could be an effective tactic.

 

[Ballistics]

This is a math problem where every variable we'd like to plug in is known only through blurry phone videos taken at nighttime. Good luck.

Realistically, we have to wait for some daylight for some more helpful information regarding where tf it came from. I'm sure there's some evidence even as a pile of rubble. Will say, if Israel can't prove it came from Gaza, Hamas has just won the goddamn lottery regardless of who actually did it.

 

[KingCoelacanth]

Basically, most people, especially now, don't care about the truth, just the convincing narrative. It no longer matters who blew up the hospital, the narrative has been set and no one on either side is going to be swayed by the truth. Awfully convenient Israel would do the one thing that would get the rest of the Muslim world mad exactly when HAMAS needs it though.

People need to stop asking who blew up the hospital and start asking who benefits the most from it.

Pretty convenient that Hamas would fly in on paragliders to massacre Israeli citizens, giving the IDF the casus belli to turn gaza into a parking lot. Wonder who benefited from that move.

 

[TheBigZee]

Hamas' own statement is that they fired a R160. A R160 (a.k.a. Khaibar-1) has a 150kg payload. A 150kg payload will completely level a brick house up to 10 meter away. This is sufficient to completely destroy the main building of the Al-Ahli hospital, as per Google Maps.

Israel is saying it was the Islamic Jihad.

 

[Michael Wade]

Stop giving this anime avatarfag attention, dude keeps hyping up every little clash at the ass end of the world to be the beginning of WW3

No.

https://twitter.com/squatsons/status/1714386273551737162?t=RJxaGuXAj5vpCY-k0Wij_g&s=19

 

[pikachudidnothingwrong]

Wait, if the destruction of the hospital wasn't from the rocket then what happened to the failing rocket? In the longer videos there is no mention of secondary explosions or anything. Surely this would be being pointed out without end if it were the case. I've seen their rockets get blown and that failure was not a it's load going off in the air!

 

[TheBigZee]

"We investigate ourselves goyim and found we chosenites did nothing wrong"

The fucked up thing is that again, this isn't an outright denial.