2023 Israel-Palestine Armed Conflict

King George III said:
The lack of journofags publishing photos/videos of ground zero is suspicious. Normally during an event like this they'd be on it like flies on shit.
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All the pictures you're getting are from the "safe" areas of Gaza.
This was literally the only safe area in the "unsafe" area of Gaza and now its been bombed by whoever.


I wouldn't be going there either.
 
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mindlessobserver said:
Watching Al Jazeera. Apparently, the USA is responsible for what is going on. Gee golly. Are we? Does this mean we need to "take responsibility?"
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Well when you get Sleepy Joe behind the wheel must you be surprised when you find yourself in the ditch?
 
mindlessobserver said:
On this we can agree. No way whatever bottlerockets Hamas is firing could have produced a blast like that. It was either a JDAM or modern Ground Attack Rocket for sure. I lean towards the latter obviously, but either way Israel definitely did it. The Army doing it, with all its reservists wielding toys they don't understand makes more sense then the Air Force deliberately dropping a JDAM on a hospital though.

And for the reasons previously stated, the blast tends to support a Predator Hawk given the wrong target data then an IAF pilot wanting to crater a hospital.
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What makes the Israeli "Ground Attack Rockets" able to crater a hospital, but not some the larger PIJ rockets? Wouldn't, for example, these Badr-3 rockets be able to do some pretty heavy damage if misfired into a building? Genuinely asking, this is not my area of expertise.
 
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I don't understand why Israel hasn't started the ground invasion yet , time isn't on there side the longer the air campaign goes on the chances of the US telling them to stop increases. To quote Machiavelli “… in seizing a state, the attacker ought to examine closely all those injuries which are necessary, and to do them all at one stroke so as not to have to repeat them daily. Thus by not continually upsetting the people, he will be able to make them feel more secure, and win them over by benefits. He who does otherwise, either from reluctance or evil advice, is always forced to keep the knife in his hand. He cannot rely on his subjects, and they cannot attach themselves to him, because of the continued and repeated wrongs. Injuries ought to be done all at one time, so that, being tasted less, they offend less. Benefits ought to be given little by little, so that their flavour may last longer.”— Chapter VIII . Israel will quickly find the window for eliminating Hamas closed if they don't move faster than they are.
 
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If the blast from the videos was a secondary explosion, what did it come from? Even if they had enormous diesel tanks in the basement to run generators, they were supposed to be running out of fuel right about now (according to humanitarian groups in Egypt). I don't know how advanced the hospital was, but if they had certain radiology equipment, there's probably crushed up nuclear material in the rubble. Fortunately the containment chambers for nuclear material in medical equipment are generally strong enough to survive a building collapse, but not a 500 pounder.

Feline Supremacist said:
Don't think I ever seen the Islamic Republic of Iran publish anything in Hebrew.

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First time for everything I guess.
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Ghostse said:
Now I'm not saying you're wrong, but at the same time are going to have soldiers killed just so you can murk a few subhumans? Muslims want to go back to 800AD and Isreal is helping them realize that dream.
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Things have changed now that it seems Iran is throwing its gauntlet in. Israel might actually get rid of their Gaza problem in the context of a wider war.

However, if the past is any indication, Israel has zero problems sacrificing its soldiers to murk a few sandniggers and avoid too many civilian casualties.

As I said, retards.
 
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The White House has been discussing the possibility of using military force if Hezbollah joins the war in Gaza and attacks Israel with its huge arsenal of rockets, three U.S. officials and one Israeli official with knowledge of the situation tell Axios. Link/ Archive

One of the legal justifications for the U.S. using force in case of a Hezbollah attack would be to protect tens of thousands of American citizens who live in Israel, said Jonathan Lord of the Center for a New American Security (CNAS).
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@footballteam seems to be right-this may have been done to draw us into this tard fight.
 
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footballteam said:
US embassy in Beruit:
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Lol this video preview.
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Like cmon, it's nearly a perfect fit.
 
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Betonhaus said:
Well when you get Sleepy Joe behind the wheel must you be surprised when you find yourself in the ditch?
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We have Blinken going over there and pandering to Israel saying "as a Jew..." And then promising Israel billions of dollars and parking two carrier groups off the coast to dissuade Iran from getting involved. In a sense it is our fault, because Israel acts with impunity because they know the US will bail them out no matter what.

We could have sorted this situation out in a peaceful way if our leadership had been willing to make aid and future support contingent on Israel not doing blatant war crimes. Just apply the same carrot and stick diplomacy we do to any other nation that is being a pain in the ass. But unfortunately Israel is "special" for some reason...
 
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Zucotti Manicotti said:
I don't understand why Israel hasn't started the ground invasion yet , time isn't on there side the longer the air campaign goes on the chances of the US telling them to stop increases. To quote Machiavelli “… in seizing a state, the attacker ought to examine closely all those injuries which are necessary, and to do them all at one stroke so as not to have to repeat them daily. Thus by not continually upsetting the people, he will be able to make them feel more secure, and win them over by benefits. He who does otherwise, either from reluctance or evil advice, is always forced to keep the knife in his hand. He cannot rely on his subjects, and they cannot attach themselves to him, because of the continued and repeated wrongs. Injuries ought to be done all at one time, so that, being tasted less, they offend less. Benefits ought to be given little by little, so that their flavour may last longer.”— Chapter VIII . Israel will quickly find the window for eliminating Hamas closed if they don't move faster than they are.
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I always knew for more than a decade Israel will have to re occupy Gaza at some point, but I figured they already had a good to plan for this, that would have them securing the strip in a day or so. And not the could be weeks stuff.
 
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Jump said:
I am sure after the "Roof knock" warning they considered it a legit target if they had some sort intel that Hamas was in there or ammo or what ever.
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I'm not sure if you know this but there's weapons of mass destruction in Iraq too with a homicidal dictator called Saddam Hussain. Just like America bombed weddings and funerals with countless civilian deaths included in "legitimate targets" for years with no consequences, it's essential that Israel bombs hospitals in Palestine before their dictator and weapons bomb America. Fight the war over there so it doesn't come here!

It's like none of you remember 9/11 and the perfectly intact passports of Muslim pilots they found in the streets to "confirm Muslim extremists", in tandem with the arrests of multiple Israelis driving truck bombs that were stopped. This isn't new behaviour.

Grateful for social media in conjunction with community notes. Hopefully Israel wears out its crybaby victim status the more they continue to do optics ruining shit like bombing a hospital and lying about it to keep the western war chest accessible for their gay blood feud.
 
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Feline Supremacist said:
The White House has been discussing the possibility of using military force if Hezbollah joins the war in Gaza and attacks Israel with its huge arsenal of rockets, three U.S. officials and one Israeli official with knowledge of the situation tell Axios. Link/ Archive



@footballteam seems to be right-this may have been done to draw us into this tard fight.
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"They"" wanted to invade Iran for a long while. Everyone are drawing new cards here and trying to play their hand.
But I just don't see how the US does that at this point.
I'm not buying that this was the intention.


If Hezbollah attacks, they attack. But why would Israel want them to attack at this moment? What gain do they get?
If anything Hamas wants to draw Hezbollah in.

But this is just 3D chess, who knows what the fuck is going on in 5D.
 
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For context and visuals for people who don't like reading, here's what Grad rockets fired directly at concrete structures from small distances can do. Notice that the building doesn't collapse like a house of cards, there aren't any particularly large fires, and destruction is generally limited to the places the rockets hit directly. A Grad rocket has a warhead of around 44lbs or 20kg. This is from the assault at Azovstal* where DPR and Russian units would regularly use MLRS in this fashion.




*Comment not meant to incite any discussion of the Russo-Ukrainian war.
 
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