2023 Israel-Palestine Armed Conflict

[Trianon]

I'm so confused, how did it take all day for someone to look and say, "The hospital is still standing......."

The state of it.

 

[Drag-on Knight 91873]

Not to mention there's no longterm financial incentives for the O&G companies to even try, given how successive administrations tried to fuck them over. What, you're going to appeal to their sense of patriotism? Lol sure, Exxon-Mobil the global international megacorp gonna laugh at you and just reap the high prices all the way to the bank.

Thanks to Leftist governments, I now see Big Oil as the lesser evil. They are just reacting to standard supply and demand while also dealing with Western governments that keep trying to regulate them out of existence with no viable energy or infrastructure alternative.

 

[andy warski]

I'm skeptical that it was Israel, listen to the whistle as the bomb is incoming. Israeli bombs don't whistle but hamas rockets do.

It was American JDAM bomb. Video comparison to strikes/audio is fairly conclusive. Plus, Hamas bottle rockets are far from powerful enough to cause that damage. They barely put holes in houses.

 

[Fcret]

I'm so confused, how did it take all day for someone to look and say, "The hospital is still standing......."

The state of it.

Reporters don't want to go into Gaza. That's how you get beheaded and/or raped. Which means we're either getting footage from pro-Hamas people or whatever the Israeli intelligence services deem we're allowed to see (hours/days after it's relevant).

 

[Tootsie Bear]

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IDF released the intercepted call between Hamas operatives where they acknowledge it was a misfire.

again this is coming from the IDF so do with that what you will.

When it comes to rumors and conspiracies never say never. I can believe PIJ was the culprit, but then again Israel has their fair share of deceit when it comes to the truth.

 

[Racist Trash]

Hamas bottle rockets are far from powerful enough to cause that damage. They barely put holes in houses.

BOY HAVE I GOT NEWS FOR YOU!

 

[quackrock]

I was pointing this out earlier. The first explosion seems out of place and tiny for a direct attack and the timing of it all is way too close to believe it's unrelated to the second one, let alone to the events going on in the air directly above seconds before. The smoke does raise a few questions. Could it be stuff still burning/smoldering from earlier attacks (coming or going out), smoke from something Hamas was doing or did? (launch sites or something?)

The smaller boom with more smoke sounds like an engine + fuel. Inclined to agree with this guy:

https://nitter.net/OAlexanderDK/status/1714381171901997133

On the other, those same civilians have been letting Hamas hide among them for like decades at this point and smugly thinking that nothing bad would happen to them.

Hamas fought a brutal civil war with their political opposition. They rounded up the losers and threw them off buildings. You'd really raise your hand to tell these guys no? I think you'd just hunker down and try to live your life.

 

[BigRizzle]

On one level, I feel bad that civilians are caught in the crossfire.

On another, those same civilians have been tacitly letting Hamas hide among them for like decades at this point and smugly thinking that nothing bad would happen to them.

Play stupid games, win stupid prizes.

You're saying this as if Hamas asks nicely when they want to use civilians as human shields.
"Hello there sir/madam, may we use your house to fire rockets from? If it's not too much trouble for you of course. Thank you."

People there have no choice but to do what Hamas tells them to do. Saying "no" to them is basically a death sentence.

 

[TrainWreckWatcher]

We are a net debtor nation and we have a service economy now; we are in no condition to weather another round of hype-inflation and mass unemployment, and that's just due to the ME imposing an embargo; if China fucks with our supply chain again we will not only be hungry but sick/dead since they make all the pharmaceuticals now.

It still boggles my mind penicillin one of the most useful antibiotics stopped being manufactured in the US back in like 2004. We're so fucked if we can't get a self sustaining pharmacy up and running. We should be doing some kind of emergency setup now, but we learned nothing from COVID in early 2020.

the Hamas ministry.
keep in mind they like to inflate their casualty numbers, i've seen some people say the number has actually been raised towards a 1000 in the last few hours.

Much like their enemy who also likes inflating numbers.

Boy both sides are a real treat aren't they? I hate how we all know terrible shit is happening but both sides love to lie and keep inflating.

 

[01169]

https://twitter.com/KAJ_Berlin/status/1714524022057078930

Someone threw two molotov cocktails at a jewish community center in Berlin. Missed. The fire only burned on the pavement in front of the building. So basically a nothingburger but every little bit fans the flames.

 

[Inspector Rex]

On another, those same civilians have been tacitly letting Hamas hide among them for like decades at this point and smugly thinking that nothing bad would happen to them.

I mean, I doubt that they can do anything about it even if they want to. And they don't, because they are living in a shithole without proper education and no prospects in life so being radicalized is the only option in life they have.

And the two-state solution, even if executed perfectly without anyone feeling they've been robbed, will maybe break this cycle in a span of 100 years.

 

[TheBigZee]

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IDF released the intercepted call between Hamas operatives where they acknowledge it was a misfire.

again this is coming from the IDF so do with that what you will.

If this is the source of the explosion at the hospital, the video of the rocket coming apart in the air was unrelated. Happened at the same time, but just a coincidence.

 

[SamuellyGenie]

The smaller boom with more smoke sounds like an engine + fuel.

I got too into it and did some deep analysis on 3 videos of the explosions:


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Judging from this, it cannot be confirmed who exactly caused the hospital explosion, but there are some things of note:

1) Explosion 1 and the hospital explosion occurred at nearly the same time, but are very far apart. The pitch black night and lack of city lights in Cam 1 makes it look like they're related, but they're not.
Explosion 1, as seen in Cam 2, is quite close to the northern border with Israel, while the hospital explosion is in the heart of Gaza City.

2) This also disproves theories that the missile in Cam 1 broke apart and fell in two or more sections causing both explosions.

3) Judging from the distances of both explosions to Cam 1 and Cam 2 respectively, it can be determined that the slew of missiles being fired from Gaza toward Israel in Cam 2 and the lone missile seen in Cam 1 are not part of the same attacking force, and are pretty much firing AT each other. It appears that the one misfiring/malfunctioning missile was launched either from Israel or very nearby Gaza's northeast border with Israel.

4) The faint flash in Cam 3 proves Explosion 1 was very far away from the hospital, and has that controversial "JDAM" sound which is unlikely to come from bits and pieces of a broken apart missile.
Shame that Cam 1 and Cam 2 don't have audio and cannot confirm if the audio of Cam 3 is authentic.

The two blasts were around 5 miles apart

 

[Guysho]

Something for everyone multi-stream

Unless you really want to stare at the beach of Ashdod.

 

[pikachudidnothingwrong]

The smaller boom with more smoke sounds like an engine + fuel. Inclined to agree with this guy:

https://nitter.net/OAlexanderDK/status/1714381171901997133

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Hamas fought a brutal civil war with their political opposition. They rounded up the losers and threw them off buildings. You'd really raise your hand to tell these guys no? I think you'd just hunker down and try to live your life.

Yup, that was my take as well.. I was just doing more speculating on the smoke some people noticed.

Now.. hopefully... we (the world) can all walk back a little bit from the edge of economic (and potentially military) MAD worst case scenarios and or a giant ME war. (or worse)

Yeah, I expect to see rainbows for that last bit but... sometimes, for the sake of sanity, the glass has to at least seem half full. lol

 

[curson]

It was American JDAM bomb. Video comparison to strikes/audio is fairly conclusive. Plus, Hamas bottle rockets are far from powerful enough to cause that damage. They barely put holes in houses.

I wanna live in your house, sounds like a nuclear shelter...
Hamas bottle rocket:

 

[andy warski]

I wanna live in your house, sounds like a nuclear shelter...
Hamas bottle rocket:

The most casualties from a Hamas rocket attack is like 5 or 6. This is just like when Israel murdered al Jazeera journalist Shireen akleh. They said Palestinians shot her before finally admitting after multiple investigative journalists showed concrete proof. No punishment to the soldier, of course.

As if people believe Israeli excuses and victim-blaming for the genocidal actions they have publicly espoused for decades

 

[AN/ALR56]

https://archive.is/wip/e5EaR

Kikes are fucking retarded.
Reminds me of that Malaysian airliner being shot down after being confused with a Ukranian cargo plane, Russian accounts made celebratory tweets and then deleted everything and started making conspiracy theories about Ukraine shooting it down until a international commission decided to investigate and found out it was actually a Russian rebel missile.

I do not expect the UN being allowed to do a independent investigation of the bombing by Israel, mark my words, they will claim it's antisemitic and dangerous to go on Gaza and investigate the building's remains.

 

[TheBigZee]

Israel's "intercepted phone call" says they attempted to launch a rocket from the hospital compound. Specifically a cemetery on the grounds.

Israel isn't claiming the rocket videos previously shared were responsible.

The Hamas people were speculating based on shrapenel.

If it was Israel and additional evidence surfaces then they can claim it was in response to a launch.

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https://archive.is/wip/e5EaR

Kikes are fucking retarded.
Reminds me of that Malaysian airliner being shot down after being confused with a Ukranian cargo plane, Russian accounts made celebratory tweets and then deleted everything and started making conspiracy theories about Ukraine shooting it down until a international commission decided to investigate and found out it was actually a Russian rebel missile.

I do not expect the UN being allowed to do a independent investigation of the bombing by Israel, mark my words, they will claim it's antisemitic and dangerous to go on Gaza and investigate the building's remains.

I guess the guy who said the army counterfired without thinking wins it.
Edit: wait a minute - that account doesn't have the blue check mark.How do we know they are trustworthy.

 

[AssignedEva]

On another, those same civilians have been tacitly letting Hamas hide among them for like decades at this point and smugly thinking that nothing bad would happen to them.

People go along with "trans women are women" because they don't want to get fired. Do you think the average person anywhere is going to stand up and be the lone person to tell a terrorist organisation that controls Gaza "no", knowing this could result in them and their family being killed?