2023 Israel-Palestine Armed Conflict

[MadStan]

I find the video recording IDF released suspicious.

It sounds more like 2 regular Palestinians talking shit on the phone more than 2 members of Hamas. Why refer to it as "They said it was fired....", if they were members of Hamas they would say "we". They later refer to is as "us" in the context of "us" as we might on KF talk about the USA.

This audio recording doesn't shut the book at all. The IDF says a bunch of rockets were launched from the cemetery and a singular rocket went "oops" - did you see other rockets taking off in the footage? Me Neither.

If Hamas had a single rocket that could kill 500 people, I'd like to see it seeing as they fired 5000 rockets on the first day and their entire strike that day killed what, 200 people total?

This fucking stinks.

 

[Vaclav]

From his website:
https://www.hnaftali.com (https://archive.ph/830Id)

From his author profile for The Jerusalem Post:
https://www.jpost.com/author/hananya-naftali (https://archive.ph/s6rlM)

Crap, seems I was wrong on that one. I don't think he'd have the Netanyahu affiliation claim up on his website if it was false. With evidence coming in the scenario of a JDAM or other high-tech guided bomb seems to be more likely, Gazan rockets have a rinkydink payload -- except for some new Chinese thing they bought -- and the Hamas rocket in the video explodes in the air while the projectile seen hitting the hospital came in at an angle at high speed. It's really hard to see those two things as being the same weapon, kind of like JFK and the "single bullet."

They could have routed Hamas with strategic operations yet decided to bomb everything instead.

If they haven't done that it's for a reason. There have been several reports of friendly fire during the IDF's operations since the Hamas invasion. Now I can't say if those are true or not with so much disinfo being thrown around but if it's true it suggests that a lot of Israeli troops lack the nerve for close combat. They may also be worried that vengeful, undisciplined troops may massacre a bunch of Gazan civvies and get caught on video. Bombs are one thing but seeing a person in Israeli uniform on video blasting a family in their car could inflame the Muslim world even more than what's happening now.

 

[Tyrannosaurus rex]

Oy vey!
This is what is known as a target rich environment, atleast it is in israel's military doctrine since they love bombing civvies.

Translation:
Ongoing Hezbollah protests in Nabatiyah in southern Lebanon in support of the Gaza Strip.

 

[SIMIΔN]

Biden looks worse than ever.

edit:

Hypothetically what if a third party like Russia/China had sent a jet equipped with decent stealth capabilities and used a bomb like that to escalate things in the middle east with the goal of overburdening/rerouting The USs funding and support that was going to Ukraine on top of opening up new diplomatic opportunities with Arab countries that are now cutting ties to the west?

Planes and launchers are hard to hide. Though it wouldn't surprise me if some Wagner veterans helped Hamas prepare for their initial raid on Israel.
Remember Wagner worked with Muslim groups to take down ISIS, so helping Hamas is more than possible.

 

[Uncle Buck]

Biden looks worse than ever.

Eighty-one gazzillion votes for old Joe “Well… anyway” Biden.

He’s the personification of the old trope that goes, “The boss is coming; look busy”. I just wonder how many people it takes to get him quasi-presentable and prepped for any public appearance.

Come to think of it he’s actually closer to “The Fuhrer” John Gill from the original series Star Trek episode “Patterns of Force”.

 

[01169]

I don't think AI is at a level to quickly produce a video of that quality

Not saying they did, but humans are quite capable of that already.

 

[TheBigZee]

Stealth edit from Al-Jazeera

Archived:

https://ghostarchive.org/archive/rIewQ

Current:

https://www.aljazeera.net/news/2023/10/18/%D8%B9%D8%A7%D8%AC%D9%84-%D8%A7%D9%84%D9%85%D8%AA%D8%AD%D8%AF%D8%AB-%D8%A8%D8%A7%D8%B3%D9%85-%D8%A7%D9%84%D8%AC%D9%8A%D8%B4-%D8%A7%D9%84%D8%A5%D8%B3%D8%B1%D8%A7%D8%A6%D9%8A%D9%84%D9%8A-6?_x_tr_sl=auto&_x_tr_tl=en&_x_tr_hl=en&_x_tr_pto=wapp

Edit: No longer says Israel admits to targeting garage.

 

[curson]

Biden is extremely tired and seems not fit for command. Nothing against old leaders, Adenauer was fit till the end.

 

[Uncle Buck]

Biden is extremely tired and seems not fit for command. Nothing against old leaders, Adenauer was fit till the end.

It’s been more than a decade since Joe could come close to being described as “fit”. In his prime he was at best a somewhat lovable buffoon.

That the man has actually fallen upstairs - and I don’t mean climbing the steps to AF1 - as much as he has should have broken more than one reality algorithm by now.

 

[diroama]

Anyone who has looked at the photos and video of the damage at the hospital and still thinks this was an Israeli air strike is a fucking retard.

 

[msd]

Weren't we supposed to impeach this old fuck?

 

[curson]

i´m not that much into american politics, but why is it that there are just 2 very old candidates in your parties?

And even when you see that one of them is struggeling with daily business he still candidates for another season...

Sounds bad when thats the only thing you´re country can deliver...

(del. when too much off topic)

 

[pikachudidnothingwrong]

I find the video recording IDF released suspicious.

It sounds more like 2 regular Palestinians talking shit on the phone more than 2 members of Hamas. Why refer to it as "They said it was fired....", if they were members of Hamas they would say "we". They later refer to is as "us" in the context of "us" as we might on KF talk about the USA.

This audio recording doesn't shut the book at all. The IDF says a bunch of rockets were launched from the cemetery and a singular rocket went "oops" - did you see other rockets taking off in the footage? Me Neither.

If Hamas had a single rocket that could kill 500 people, I'd like to see it seeing as they fired 5000 rockets on the first day and their entire strike that day killed what, 200 people total?

This fucking stinks.

Crap, seems I was wrong on that one. I don't think he'd have the Netanyahu affiliation claim up on his website if it was false. With evidence coming in the scenario of a JDAM or other high-tech guided bomb seems to be more likely, Gazan rockets have a rinkydink payload -- except for some new Chinese thing they bought -- and the Hamas rocket in the video explodes in the air while the projectile seen hitting the hospital came in at an angle at high speed. It's really hard to see those two things as being the same weapon, kind of like JFK and the "single bullet."

It doesn't even look like a high explosive was involved at all to tell the truth. The images that are finally coming out are almost 100% fire damage. The cars at the center aren't even fucked up beyond burning.

Whom ever or how ever or what ever hit it.... No way it killed 500+ people! I mean maybe if they were packed in at literal ground zero at crush crowd levels but even that I find hard to believe given the damage. I could be wrong I guess.. it probably depends on what hit it.

 

[ImJustJokingGuys]

It sounds more like 2 regular Palestinians talking shit on the phone more than 2 members of Hamas.

In a military operation where "flatten the entire thing" seems to the goal, anyone who is Palestinian is a member of Hamas. The Israelis are fighting a PR war so they will double down on anything coming out of Palestine as being Hamas correspondence.

 

[Kiwiballs]

So how do we even solve the rabid retard muslim issue?

That's very easy.

Let them live in their countries.
Don't bomb their countries. Especially when they say that bombing them will "open up the floodgates to Europe" like Ghadaffi said
Don't pit their leaders against each other.
Don't engineer coups...
I could go on.

And kick out anyone who doesnt have a citizenship back to them once we stop doing this.
But obviously that's not gonna happen, cause the truth is, our leaders are the baddies. They are just somewhat uncivilized, poor and not integrated. If they are hoodrats, our leaders are sociopathic machiavellians.

 

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I don't think people here have a grasp of how bad the hospital strike ruined American influence in the Middle East, it made Iran and Saudi Arabia which just a few years ago were planning to nuke each other and killed thousands of Iranian and Saudi troops in Yemen to join forces in condemnation of Israel, every Arab party cancelled their Biden meeting in the middle east, even Turkey which is a major NATO ally wants to burn their McDonald's down in rage.

Even Christian churches which are usually Zionist, are starting to condemn Israel over this, there's no way to spin this, the more days Israel keeps this war up, the worse their reputation will get, specially in this mixture of woke shit that Jews helped prop up across the world.

http://archive.today/Jk35x

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IDF wants 2 million people to gather in a tiny open area to avoid being bombed to death:
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https://archive.is/wip/yZxw9

I recognize that Keith Woods guy from this HILARIOUS fucking exchange:

https://twitter.com/KeithWoodsYT/status/1698867716247982381

https://archive.ph/MN0uf

tl;dr: Literal honest to god Israeli Spy shows up in a Twitter Spaces (zoom call with public viewing, more or less) and tries some kike trickery when Musk announced he was suing the ADL, he points out she's a spy working for a specific agency, she drops out immediately and deletes EVERYTHING -- her account, her other socials, everything.

They just can't help themselves. It's engraved in their bones.

 

[Sithis]

i´m not that much into american politics, but why is it that there are just 2 very old candidates in your parties?

And even when you see that one of them is struggeling with daily business he still candidates for another season...

Sounds bad when thats the only thing you´re country can deliver...

(del. when too much off topic)

Well, when you look at Trump at his age and Biden at his age, one of them is clearly going through senility with much more decay and it's not the orange guy.

As it pertains to Israel though, it's one of those cases where it matters little which figurehead is at the mast, the US will support Israel right down to the last tax dollar and I don't even say that in the typical /pol/ fashion, I mean that even now they are one of the top commitments of our political class on both sides of the aisle.

 

[Vash the Stampede]

 

[Kiwiballs]

i´m not that much into american politics, but why is it that there are just 2 very old candidates in your parties?

And even when you see that one of them is struggeling with daily business he still candidates for another season...

Sounds bad when thats the only thing you´re country can deliver...

(del. when too much off topic)

It's a dying elite grasping at the straws of power. Was the same in the Soviet Union as it was collapsing, just before Gorbatchev took over the average age in the upper echelons of power was like 70.
This is literally the man that the top brass of the democratic communist party choose as their leader before the swamp imploded under their feet:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Konstantin_Chernenko

" Historian John Lewis Gaddis described him as "an enfeebled geriatric so zombie-like as to be beyond assessing intelligence reports, alarming or not" when he succeeded Andropov in 1984.[15]"

Probably the perfect person to have if you're beyond corrupt, just interested in maintaining the status quo and having the deepstate run things.

 

[David Brown]

"I don't tend to require Israel to provide proof of the claims they make"
This is your brain on Zionism