2023 Israel-Palestine Armed Conflict

[Kiwiballs]

The Israeli army is a 5th rate conscript force with 2nd rate weapons (1st rate now that they're realizing they need actual guns instead of tavors) that routinely gets in spats with 6th rate conscript forces with 6th rate weapons.

I'm not impressed they managed to eke out a victory with WW2 surplus on retards considering everything 3 years prior.

OT but whats wrong with Tavors?

 

[ForgedBlades]

Muslim Americans are the real victims in all this, you guys.

 

[Um...]

This Biden speech is terrible on so many levels already

Old mushmouth needs better-fitting dentures or something. Can’t even read off a teleprompter without garbling and slurring. It’s embarrassing.

 

[toad of the depths]

OT but whats wrong with Tavors?

If they were worth a shit the israelis would use them as a full on service weapon.

 

[Kiwiballs]

If they were worth a shit the israelis would use them as a full on service weapon.

Maybe expensive?

 

[Indifferent]

Fuck me, Biden is like Ron Burgundy reading from that teleprompter.

 

[make_it_so]

This Biden speech is terrible on so many levels already

When is a Biden speech not terrible?

OT but whats wrong with Tavors?

Mainly the same issue that all bullpup designs have - extremely back heavy and poor trigger pull. The only reason they're used at all is because their compact size makes them good for use by mechanized infantry and paratroops.

 

[toad of the depths]

Maybe expensive?

Engineers call that a design flaw.

Mainly the same issue that all bullpup designs have - extremely back heavy and poor trigger pull. The only reason they're used at all is because their compact size makes them good for use by mechanized infantry and paratroops.

I could gunsperg, but the Tavor is literally an indigenous design to have an indigenous design. Yeah, israeli conscripts were too inbred and retarded to use the FAL (imagine getting mogged by brazilians and argies lmao) but cloning the AK and adopting the AR, the two most time tested idiot proof weapons of all time (insurgents and rednecks being the torture tests) seem to work for them. As far as the tavor goes, its probably an OK bullpup, but why bother when daddy USA will pour ARs on you like a rabbi pours piss on a trafficked Ukrainian prostitute.

 

[DumbDude43]

OT but whats wrong with Tavors?

they're b*llpups

 

[Pissmaster]

lmao nice

Did you get ringburn?

No I didn't, but I appreciate your concern for the well being of my anus. You are a true bro.

 

[Anasûrimbor Kellhus]

Using the BLM method of making radical activism seem chic for children and brainwashing them at the same time, militant Palestinian nationalism is now playing out at American high schools. Video recorded at Balboa High School in San Francisco.

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It bears repeating that this is the fruit of all the good work of people like Tim Wise and noel ignatiev. They actually thought they wouldn't be included in "whiteness".

 

[toad of the depths]

It bears repeating that this is the fruit of all the good work of people like Tim Wise and noel ignatiev. They actually thought they wouldn't be included in "whiteness".

I have it on good authority from Israelis in this thread that the good people of israel despise those liberal western jews despite never saying anything about this...

 

[mindlessobserver]

Biden's handlers actually had the brass balls to do a Resolute Desk speech. Fucking why. I weep at how such traditional symbols of American power are used so carelessly and cynically.

Consider how a Resolute Desk speech ACTUALLY is supposed to look like.

No platitudes. No talking points. The complete, untarnished truth to the citizens, explaining in detail the Governments decision to direct the United States on a course for war. Biden's speech should have, at a minimum been given in the Rose Garden. Not from the Resolute Desk. An absolute disgrace.

 

[Anasûrimbor Kellhus]

The thread DOES seem controlled by kikes. We might need a separate thread in the style of the Ukrainian/Russian conflict.

eh I do agree there's a lot more pro-israel posting than I would expect but even I as someone who isn't all that pro-israel recognize its been largely polite and hasn't devolved into the "zigger vatnik hohol ukropigs reeeeee" spergery that caused the original Ukraine thread to be split.

 

[quackrock]

Jews wait for 8 days before doing it with an extremely sharp knife and then immediately giving the baby a drop of wine in order to dull the pain.

That part of the Orthodox process might be more humane, but there's also this part

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mohel

 

[Sargon's wife's son]

Israel does not belong to either the Palestinians or the Jews both groups have absolutely no historical claim to the land Palestinians are mainly made up of Arabs and most of the Jewish population is either Russian or German.
People need to stop making these retarded blood and soil arguments selectively either the land belongs to its original inhabitants or it doesn't so if we're going to go by that metric the original inhabitants or the Hebrews would be more closely related to Greeks Sumerians sardinians Phoenicians .
Or even the Mesopotamians.
Since most of those ethnic groups were genocided by Arabs the closest living ethnic group would be the Lebanese or the Greeks so vacate rightful Greek and Lebanese territory you Jew and Arabs

 

[SIMIΔN]

It's time to fight, accept casualties. I mentioned 5000, maybe they need to accept 50 000 to finally secure what so many of them have secretly been wanting for so long

I think it'll be far closer to 5000 than 50,000
This youtuber is strongly anti-NATO, and predicts it'll end before 3000 IDF die.

they could target and destroy network infrastructure in the strip, they could put up strong jammers to disrupt wireless signal transmission, make the whole area invisible

Gaza is tiny and shares a boarder with Egypt. Just 40km long.

 

[Kiwiballs]

I think it'll be far closer to 5000 than 50,000
This youtuber is strongly anti-NATO, and predicts it'll end before 3000 IDF die.

Yeah my estimate for the Hamas conflict is 5000 for total conquest but Im saying in the context of Toads arguments that they could expect to take 50 000 if Hezbollah, Yemeni Houthis, various popular resistance groups of Syria and Iraq and Iranian agents join in the fight.

Might be a longer regional guerilla war. Someone posted bussloads of Iraqis going to Jordan, looked like several thousand. Dozens upon dozens of busses. All those are could be veterans of the war with Isis for example.

 

[Cpl. Long Dong Silver]

It is consistently hilarious to me that people keep demanding a separate thread because they come here to say something retarded and pointless like "i fucking hate kikes/sandniggers they should all die reeee" then get negrated or threadbanned because they're spergs and blame the Jews for it.
its not like we have multiple openly anti-Israel/Jew posters here that don't constantly get negrated and aren't threadbanned, it must be the Jews!

Can confirm. I really dislike the Jews that control the US but I'm not trying to shit up the thread or create a hugbox.

Keep the thread as it is.

oh and six million wasn't enough

 

[quackrock]

Your Lockheed/Raytheon/General Dynamics stock portfolio?

The "shells and bombs Made in America" pitch in Biden's speech was one of its weaker beats IMO. Everyone knows the phrase "military-industrial complex" these days. If only we'd listened to Ike, and Washington for that matter