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US US Politics General - Discussion of President Biden and other politicians
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Nah its the fact people still have something to lose wait until milenials reach 60 and realise they don't have anything on their name but debt, no children,pets or friends because too expensive o have, and got screwed out of any form of retirement, with chronic illnesses to keep them broke, and decide to retire suicide via cop and take someone with them they consider culpable for their misery it will start with middle management but as younger milenials get retirement age especially those college grads who did everything right and still ended up holding the bag those will come for every judge , AG, politician and ceo they think is evil. Currently things aren't that bad , consider things really bad when cops start clearing homeless encampments with armored vehicles and swat teams .
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Rfk either lost his marbles or getting sabotaged by his assistants
RFK Jr. comes out in favor of reparations, carving out lane to Biden’s left
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I work in this industry, I've sperged about it here before. If you're relying on the West's production of kaboom, you're going to be shit out of luck at the rate production is going or accelerating. There's critical resource shortages for basically everything except maybe the iron that could make cannonballs. The entire West needs to increase production by more than an order of magnitude to meet Ukraine's demand for shells alone. Missiles are worse, ditto literally anything else.
The West would be lucky to meet the current Ukie demands within the decade, full stop. New factories have to be built, new machines need to be made to make the parts for the machines to make the explosives, casings, shells, etc. New workers need to be trained. And all without doing this. Real-life isn't a HOI4 game, you can't just spam mil-factories and produce infinite product.
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I will get a laugh for the rest of my life at the thought that anyone seriously considered the idea that a Kennedy was going to hurt Trump in the election.
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You and me are the main ones who sperg about it.
In other news:
The Biden Administration outed AGAIN some Tier-I Operators. This time the Delta Force guys in Israel.
What? You didn't know it was AGAIN?
His office of the VP outed SEAL Team Six.
So, both times, either hundreds of people vetted that pic and passed it on, meaning malevolence.
Or: B) Nobody's at the wheel.
Can anyone remind me if Biden had anything to do with the NYT publishing that list of Operator's names in the 1990's?
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He gave up a bunch of CIA assets in China, from what I recall.
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Monthly basic bitch model 155mm shell production about doubled from spring to now this year by doing exactly what you said real life can't do because it isn't HOI4. Spammed money. I'm sure you have sperged about it before, your post reads like a summary of a Bloomberg or FT or random Carnegie think tank article from the beginning of this year
Keep sperging about it I really really believe you that you're an expert insider on the American arms industry smdh lol
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Basic Bitch 155mm shells aren't the problem. That's a grooved steel case with a fuze-well and a copper/aluminum rotation band.
It's the rest of it, as well as the prop charge.
A little bit ago it was only 12K a month, not even enough to keep up with stock rotation. Now it's at 25K a month, still barely enough to keep up with basic stock rotation, much less the US Army need for artillery shells in peacetime. Fuses are a stumbling block, since there's a lot of different types of fuses. They're shooting for 100K a month in 2025. Prop charge production is currently delayed.
It's also being produced at ONE place, currently. I think another plant switched from the 8" rounds to the 155mm recently, since Scranton produces 105mm too and that is in demands as well. But one plant going from bare minimum to keep the line open and the company fiscally stable is one thing. Running extra shifts to make 25K a month, less than a 1,000 a day, at one plant isn't that big of a deal.
When Ukraine is using up 7K a day, that's 210K a month they're firing. They've fired over 3 million so far in the war. It used to be that ASP 3 or Mienegen (sp) could have handled that much, or V Corps could have just pulled it from the stocks, but that ammo went tits up decades ago. With a storage life of 25-30 years (depending on your waivers and where it's being stored) we've cut through the old backlog.
Not only do we have to feed Ukraine, apparently, but now we have to boost back up our own stocks. That's 3 million so far, and even at 100K a month, that's three years just to equal the low amount of ammo we had in the depots before Ukraine started sucking it down like a hobo with a bottle of Mad Dog 20/20. In the 2010's there was already a problem with replacement to the point that there was training accidents from either old prop charge or old shells, depending on which incident you choose to go with. True, we aren't using the amount we were in Afghanistan and Iraq, but we still use them even in peace time. There's a lot of empty bunkers that used to be packed to the gills with 155mm, and there's more than a few FSTS areas and ASPs that the artillery shells turned out to exist on paper and that was it.
There's a LOT of different 155mm shells, and basic bitch 155mm HE isn't that hard. It's the more advanced rounds that the US Army used to boast that we've pretty much gone through.
Hell, we sent them cluster munitions and they cut them apart to use them for grenades on their drones.
It's a fucking problem. From Stinger Missiles onward, we've got a serious problem for Ordnance Corps, and waving money at it doesn't mean the factory suddenly appears.
You clapping for moving the goals from about 15K to about 25K when all that took was actually running the plant at pre-2001 levels is like clapping for seeing a car go from 15 MPH to 30MPH because someone stepped on the gas.
It's the rest of it, as well as the prop charge.
A little bit ago it was only 12K a month, not even enough to keep up with stock rotation. Now it's at 25K a month, still barely enough to keep up with basic stock rotation, much less the US Army need for artillery shells in peacetime. Fuses are a stumbling block, since there's a lot of different types of fuses. They're shooting for 100K a month in 2025. Prop charge production is currently delayed.
It's also being produced at ONE place, currently. I think another plant switched from the 8" rounds to the 155mm recently, since Scranton produces 105mm too and that is in demands as well. But one plant going from bare minimum to keep the line open and the company fiscally stable is one thing. Running extra shifts to make 25K a month, less than a 1,000 a day, at one plant isn't that big of a deal.
When Ukraine is using up 7K a day, that's 210K a month they're firing. They've fired over 3 million so far in the war. It used to be that ASP 3 or Mienegen (sp) could have handled that much, or V Corps could have just pulled it from the stocks, but that ammo went tits up decades ago. With a storage life of 25-30 years (depending on your waivers and where it's being stored) we've cut through the old backlog.
Not only do we have to feed Ukraine, apparently, but now we have to boost back up our own stocks. That's 3 million so far, and even at 100K a month, that's three years just to equal the low amount of ammo we had in the depots before Ukraine started sucking it down like a hobo with a bottle of Mad Dog 20/20. In the 2010's there was already a problem with replacement to the point that there was training accidents from either old prop charge or old shells, depending on which incident you choose to go with. True, we aren't using the amount we were in Afghanistan and Iraq, but we still use them even in peace time. There's a lot of empty bunkers that used to be packed to the gills with 155mm, and there's more than a few FSTS areas and ASPs that the artillery shells turned out to exist on paper and that was it.
There's a LOT of different 155mm shells, and basic bitch 155mm HE isn't that hard. It's the more advanced rounds that the US Army used to boast that we've pretty much gone through.
Hell, we sent them cluster munitions and they cut them apart to use them for grenades on their drones.
It's a fucking problem. From Stinger Missiles onward, we've got a serious problem for Ordnance Corps, and waving money at it doesn't mean the factory suddenly appears.
You clapping for moving the goals from about 15K to about 25K when all that took was actually running the plant at pre-2001 levels is like clapping for seeing a car go from 15 MPH to 30MPH because someone stepped on the gas.
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Yeah, doubling was actually feasible, so likely is tripling as most industrial facilities either don't work full 24/7, or have massive down-times and periods of "coasting." Through a mixture of pushing and shifting closer to 24/7 and squeezing, it's actually quite feasible. This still leaves us between 3 to 6 times behind goals. I'll admit, I don't make 155 mm artillery shells, but if the Iowa Army Ammunition Plant is anything akin to the industrial facilities I've worked in, MIC and non-MIC, then that's exactly what is happening.
As for going further beyond? Well, this is where you need a period of buildup, modernization, and expansion. This will be what is painful IMO because "spamming money" can't fix the systematic issues within American industry as a general whole. My end of the decade timeframe to reach expected Ukie demand is actually pretty good, because after actually double checking what you and I said, I found outt that the Army is expecting the IAAP to finish their current modernization program in 2029.
I'm not an expert. I'm just a worker who has actually been inside an industrial facility, and will likely continue working the rest of my short life as a cog within the MIC. What exactly do you do for a living that makes you a better informed individual?
EDIT: @Jet Fuel Johnny , you've sniped me, but you've got a probably better analysis.
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I wonder if the whole RFK Jr deal is one side of the deep state trying to put Trump in office again. Like the economy is a ticking time bomb and it's better to switch the bomb on when Trump's in office, plus they know that Trump can't do shit because he's 80 years old, lets Kushner run it all, and a supermajority of Dems+RINOs will impeach him if he does anything. Problem was RFK Jr. was talking too much sense and threatened to draw away too many independents/potential Trump voters so they got him to embrace some far left talking points so he'll draw away more Biden voters.
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Were a republic.
It all began falling apart when we gave out universal suffrage instead of only landholders.
Became much much worse when we began electing senators via popular vote.
Finally, we have the events of the past 5 years in which the law and the bill of rights do not apply to enemies of the state.
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I was wondering what they were doing with the war crime munitions. Arguably that might've been the only thing they could do with them, assuming the grenades actually go off properly
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On the subject of munitions, this is from an analysis in Jan of 2023, but still food for thought.
It's from here: https://www.csis.org/analysis/rebuilding-us-inventories-six-critical-systems
It's a pretty good basic tutorial on what's going wrong.
It's from here: https://www.csis.org/analysis/rebuilding-us-inventories-six-critical-systems
It's a pretty good basic tutorial on what's going wrong.
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Oh hey, would you look at that. Surge rate of 155 mm missiles is a little bit over double normal production. So the doubling of production isn't actually a product of manufacturing capacity expanding at all.
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Trump: They want a Black Trump? Fuck it, I’ll do it myself. Now, how do I get a mugshot?
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FYI, the supreme court has once again issued a "stay" on the 5th circuit's striking down of Biden's ATF basically writing a brand new gun law to ban 80% lowers.
This rule has been vacated twice now due to absolutely zero legislative authority, and Roberts and Barrett are propping it up.
We're back to the cuck era with these fuckers. Once it eventually makes it to the supremes expect a massive rollback of Bruen.
This rule has been vacated twice now due to absolutely zero legislative authority, and Roberts and Barrett are propping it up.
We're back to the cuck era with these fuckers. Once it eventually makes it to the supremes expect a massive rollback of Bruen.
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And people think they’ll save Trump lmao
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The justifications i've seen revolves around the fact it didn't involve election results. That tends to be a go to reason to why Jan 6th is worse than every historical event in human history.
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It's not your taxpayer money. It's our Reserve Dollar that's paying for it - and no, you don not have to ever pay it back. Thats why we are allowed the dollar as long as we bring economic prosperity globally - which we have - in exchange for what amounts to a superpower - the ability to produce the globes money. It is no accident the Western and European worlds are filthy fucking rich. you think Australia, New Zealand and the UK (as just a few examples) are somehow able to be so prosperous because they are good people? It is because they are protected, funneled money and are part of the system the USA created. Same goes for Europe.
Only a novice who has never studied world history would be anything but dazzled, amazed and startled that essentially, the world has been at peace since WW2 and prior to that it was a bitch fight for resources. Since then despite what your TV tells you, it has been relatively peaceful - the most it has been ever.
It is at peace because it is forced to be at peace, with threats, intimidation, economic destruction and protection. Humans destroy one another. We are not the worlds police, we are the designated front of Democracy globally and we may continue to be so as long as we protect it and share the wealth and economic prosperity.
If you think the USA can survive in a bubble it simply can not. We are in an eco system.
Rome lasted as long as it did and the exchange for being a Roman citizen or being now part of Roman Empire that meant you were protected and enjoyed the custom of greater trade. You remove that protection or lose ground and you lose your empire.
If you give up these war fronts, you will allow Russia and China to simply take the rest of the globe, with the Arab would carving out a huge chunk for themselves. Russia does NOT have sufficient resources which is why they need the Ukraine. China DOES NOT have sufficient resources which is why it needs the pacific. India DOES NOT have sufficient resources and neither does the United States. They will take these countries. Do you ave any doubt that the only thing stopping Russia taking Europe is NATO? Is there nay doubt that the only thing stopping China from sweeping through the entire Pacific is the USA?
Ask yourself simply where else in the world you can be free and none of those places - NONE - exist outside the purview and protection of the United States. Only in fantasy worlds does this fictitious world exist where countries don't take other countries and absorb their resources for their own - that fantasy world has been real since 1946 by force and without it, you have chaos.
The USA is allowed to exist by its allies, and we have a mutual agreement on that. There is a price for the existence of the USA and how it exists with its wealth and systems, and this is part of the payment we must make. We've been good custodians by and large and even the members of the Senate despite having vast differences all know why the world is the way it is, and that the underbelly of Washington exists on this very foundation and while we gets songs and dances about silly issues, the real larger issue of what the USA is and what it stands for is and has never been in doubt.
The world is going to split - China will attempt to expand, and BRICS is real. However, what BRICS offers is ultimate protection for less than 0.1% of their populations whereas the other side offers reasonable conditions for all, despite appearances you've it got it pretty fucking slick in the Western world.
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They don't understand it. They believe the West is better due to superior work ethic, culture, and product. That hasn't existed since the 50's. They don't believe the US has used sanctions and military action to keep it's place for decades. They just think they are inherently better people than the barbarians.
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You unironically believe we can keep just deficit spending ad infinitum? What kind of moron are you?
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