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2023 Israel-Palestine Armed Conflict
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In Clown World, the only god is the one who Honks.
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Left wing cucks once again keeping Humanity from solving it's problems.
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So the Jews are making their own Nasheed like videos. Sorry for the reddit post, but I have seen it elsewhere.
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Explosion reported in Jenin in the West Bank, The Al-Ansari Mosque is reportedly bombed and casualties are also claimed source
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They already declared war. Why are politicians still involved?
This is why you have a commander-in-chief completely separate from your legislature.
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Spoiled the graphic images for those who want to read, but not see:
Evidence on Display at Israel’s Forensic Pathology Center Confirms Hamas’ Atrocities ( a )
AARON PORIS
10/20/2023
Warning: Graphic images. International press invited to review forensic evidence of the terror group’s October 7 massacre
Forensic pathologists and other experts from Israel and abroad work at the National Forensic Pathology Center in Tel Aviv to identify the victims of Hamas' Oct. 7 massacre in southern Israel. (Aaron Poris/The Media Line)
Stifling the urge to retch became a difficult task as I walked through the lower levels of Israel’s National Center of Forensic Medicine (Abu Kabir) in Tel Aviv. The smell of rotting human remains, much of which was completely unrecognizable as human due to the brutality of the attack, was at times too much to bear.
In light of the growing international interest in (and denials of) the Palestinian terror group Hamas’ October 7 massacre in southern Israel, representatives of the global press were invited to see the horrors for themselves.
Forensic pathologists, including Israeli staffers as well as volunteers from abroad, were visibly disturbed by the evidence before them. Despite every effort to remain objective and detached—as called for by the profession—many broke down into tears throughout the day.
During the initial press conference, the forensics team showed images from their investigations. Among the images were those of charred hands with marks that revealed where the victims’ hands were bound behind their backs with metal wire before being burned alive.
Hands belonging to one of the victims killed by Hamas on October 7, 2023. The victim was bound at the wrists—as seen by marks that the bindings left behind—and then burned alive. (Aaron Poris/The Media Line)
Perhaps the most disturbing image in the slideshow was a completely charred mass of flesh, which at first glance could not be seen as ever having belonged to a human. It was only after a CT scan was done that experts could see the inhumanity of the image.
Charred remains and a CT scan of the remains show a parent and child who were bound together and burned alive by Hamas terrorists on Oct. 7. Two spinal columns—one of an adult and one of a child—can be seen in the scan. The pair were likely embracing as they burned. (Aaron Poris/The Media Line)
Two spinal cords—one belonging to an adult, one to someone young—a parent and child bound together by metal wires in a final embrace before being set alight.
“When you do this job downstairs, you get detached,” Dr. Chen Kugel, the head of Abu Kabir, told The Media Line. “But then you learn the stories and connect to the people. It’s hard not to feel the tragedy. It’s so big. And when I go to the Shura camp [where deceased bodies in Israel are first collected] and see containers like you’d see at the port—but they’re all full of bodies… And you hear the stories—that behind their charred bodies, something terrible happened—it’s very difficult. I’ve seen many things in my 31-year career, but the magnitude and the cruelty [here] is terrible,” Kugel added.
Dr. Chen Kugel, head of the National Center for Forensic Medicine in Tel Aviv, speaks to the press, Oct. 16, 2023. (Aaron Poris/The Media Line)
“The proportion of bodies we’ve received who are charred is high,” Kugel explained. “Many have gunshot wounds in their hands, showing they put their hands up to their faces in defense. Many were burned alive in their homes. … We know they were burned alive because there is soot in their trachea, their throats—meaning they were still breathing when set on fire.”
The single mercy, Kugel said—if there is one to be found—is that the burned victims likely died from carbon dioxide and soot inhalation before the fire killed them.
Kugel also explained that the age range of the victims spans from 3 months to 80 or 90 years old. Many bodies, including those of babies, are without heads.
Asked if they were decapitated, Kugel answered yes. Although he admits that, given the circumstances, it’s difficult to ascertain whether they were decapitated before or after death, as well as how they were beheaded, “whether cut off by knife or blown off by RPG,” he explained.
Kugel was far from the only one who got emotional when discussing the evident travesty. “We disassociate because we need to work, but from time to time it gets to you,” Dr. Nurit Bublil, head of Abu Kabir’s DNA laboratory, told The Media Line.
Dr. Nurit Bublil, head of the DNA laboratory in Israel’s National Center for Forensic Medicine, stands next to a blood-stained baby’s mattress, Oct. 16, 2023. (Aaron Poris/The Media Line)
“Yesterday, I opened evidence from a house in a southern kibbutz, and there was a popular recipe book covered in blood. … I have this same book, and it makes you take a moment and think, it could have been my kitchen, my children, my parents, me. You can’t avoid it,” she said.
Additionally, Israel’s small population gives rise to the fact that no one is far removed from the wake of the massacre. “My sister has a close friend of hers who is still missing,” said Bublil, as she stood beside a blood-stained mattress from a baby’s crib. The DNA from the mattress will be used to try and identify a brutally disfigured and unaccounted-for infant.
“I got the message today from my neighbor,” Bublil continued. “She asked if I could help because her good friend’s husband, father, two nephews, and father-in-law’s wife were all murdered too and have yet to be identified.”
This is the crux of the forensic pathology center’s current mission in which roughly 200 experts are participating. Forensic pathologists, anthropologists, radiologists, and more from Israel as well as from the US, Switzerland, New Zealand, and elsewhere around the world have come not simply to determine the victims’ causes of death but to identify the bodies for burial.
Fighting back tears, Israeli forensic pathologist Dr. Hagar Mizrahi explained that “as you know, the Jewish people must bury their dead as soon as possible.” But as of this writing, nearly two weeks have passed since the massacre, and some 350 bodies remain unidentified. “So, the people here at Abu Kabir are doing their best to help and identify the most severe cases that arrive.”
Dr. Hagar Mizrahi, forensic pathologist with the National Center for Forensic Medicine in Tel Aviv, Oct. 16, 2023. (Aaron Poris/The Media Line)
Four places around the country are currently working to identify and release bodies for burial.
The Israel Police headquarters in Jerusalem is handling all the antemortem samples and personal items for DNA comparisons. The Israel Defense Forces is working on 1-1 DNA comparisons using their data on soldiers, including fingerprints, dental records, and DNA. In addition, Abu Kabir is working to collect DNA samples and identification for the most severe cases. It’s also where all the DNA samples from other locations come for additional testing. And the Shura camp near Ramla, in central Israel, is where all the deceased are initially collected. Shura currently has some 950 body bags in its possession.
Body bags of victims killed by Hamas on Oct. 7, hauled out to the courtyard behind the National Forensic Pathology Center in Tel Aviv. (Aaron Poris/The Media Line)
The word “bags” is written here instead of “bodies” because it’s not clear how many victims there are within them.
“More than one person’s remains may be in a single bag,” Kugel explained, “and one person’s remains may be in multiple bags.” When looking at remains, he added, “We know there are multiple people because we see double. For example, if you see two bones from the left maxilla, then it couldn’t be from the same person.”
And in many cases, bones without so much as a speck of extractable DNA are all that’s left. For that reason, Kugel said that some victims’ families would be right to fear the worst.
Bone fragments from victims killed by Hamas in southern Israel, Oct. 7. Anthropologists and forensic pathologists are sorting through the pile. The remains belong to at least three individuals. DNA sampling will not be possible. (Aaron Poris/The Media Line)
“We hope that with CT and biopsies, we can bring the unidentified down to less than 200. But some people, we will never find. We will never identify them. And people need to be prepared for this.”
Speaking personally, Bublil said that she wants the world to know that “generally, Hamas enjoyed the killing.”
According to Bublil, “This was not combat, or a military conflict, or a state conflict, or a political conflict. [Hamas] enjoyed the murders so much that they did everything they could do to celebrate the killing. They celebrated burning houses with civilians inside who didn’t do anything to them. They enjoyed grabbing an 18-year-old girl from a party, a festival, dragging her to a car, and taking her to Gaza. And who knows what happened [to her] in between. They enjoyed and celebrated the death. … These are monsters. They’re not human… They weren’t merciful to anyone. No one who was alive and encountered them remained alive. No one.”
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They're waiting for approval from the Shove Ourselves Into Nazi Ovens Party.
Hey, that's a good acronym! SOINOP!
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IDF Update on Mosque in Jenin: In a joint operation by the IDF and the Shin Bet, an IDF aircraft recently attacked an underground terrorist route in the 'Al Anatsari' mosque in the city of Jenin, which included a terrorist cell of the terrorist organization Hamas and the Palestinian Authority, which was responsible for a series of attacks carried out in recent months and planned to carry out another attack in the immediate time frame
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That really would be the end of the current government though.
OK, what's the story with this?
As I said in this very thread just after the attack began. The is the Israeli version of the year gun control died.. Or at the very least should. They are utterly retarded if it doesn't. This is another strong argument here too. Especially as we continue to intentionally leave open the border for everyone. Europe should be paying close attention as well. With huge muslim pops and defenseless people.
Imagine the reaction if it was nazi flags or other far right (or even "far right") imagery. Anti-mass immigration images as well. Hell, even a message of anti-troon sex "essentialism". This would be a criminal matter, with the media and political class having meltdowns.
Not far from the truth of the sort of thing they want. Just white western nations first and done more peacefully.
Well seeing as they sent children to live with active pedophiles in order to subvert alleged nzai and right wing standards on sexuality and child raising.. That hardly seems like a stretch.
Yeah, I remember those. I don't think words properly convey how battshit insane the mere concept is.
I absolutely cannot wait for progressives to finally be forced to "come to terms" with the disparity between reality and the narrative that drives all progressive thought and discourse on these issues. They really believe that muslims are the allies of letter people and progressivism in the war with the evil fascist religious right-wing nazis.
It's just too bad that they are going to drag most of the western world down into their forced realization.
Yup
These facts are handwaved away because reasons. Usually with a moral claim about who's land it really is/who "belongs" there or something.. or what the UN says about it.
Based!
Sad about the murdered dude.
RIP
Assuming this isn't normal crime.. Fuck! This is big.. good luck trying to explain it away. Things going to get messy. Muslims in the US better hope it was crime!
It looks like they had quite a bit of intel on this place. This wasn't a random target.
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not just the current government.
they announced loudly that they would not rest until hamas in gaza is completely annihilated. going back on that would send a loud message to the entire world that israel doesn't really have what it takes to fight a real serious war anymore. sending a message like that would be disastrous, because all their neighbors would start preparing for another coalition war like six days and yom kippur, only this time bigger and better and with iranian support, a war like that might actually end israel if it ever comes.
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Just shaun king taking credit for freeing the hostages of Hamas
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Why?
You think the liberal us jews are going to drive up to Detroit and do something about it?
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This is honestly the best response in the entire Xwitter thread
all of these faggots pretending to care about dying kids(of their preferred race) should kill themselves. the only people who should be feeling any sort of intense emotions over the deaths are people in Israel & Gaza or with friends & family there. otherwise just spectate and give non-retarded non-emotional takes if you're interested in the conflict.
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no but seeing one of their own slaughtered in her home like that will rattle quite a few of them. this woman wasn't some hardcore orthodox jew, she was a liberal who was active in local democrat party politics and even organizes some faggy muslim-jew-cooperaiton project in her area.
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Why on earth would some presumably random Hamas operative have that kind of information on him (regardless of whether its real or bogus) and how convenient is it that the Israelis just managed to find it on his person?