Margaret Pless / idlediletante / Stan - Official Kiwi Farms Advertiser and Enthusiast Who Has Proudly Eaten Ass. Now Posting Her Tits to Own the Troons!

You did not really think I was going to agree with you that men rule over women in a natural hierarchy because they’re slightly physically stronger than women, did you??
That's what you don't get and refuse to understand. I am ok with reality as it is even if it sometimes disadvantages me and the groups I belong to.
You put ideology above reality, so I accused you of lying because of your insistence.
Obviously I'm not ok with the rather abominable crap about your child or insulting you, but this is not my forum and I am not a mod. Maybe you'll understand better as your child grows into a man, hopefully a normal one, not a weak one brainwashed into feminist dogma.
 
That's what you don't get and refuse to understand. I am ok with reality as it is even if it sometimes disadvantages me and the groups I belong to.
Your whole argument is/was an appeal to nature fallacy / biological determinism. To put it plainly: you think that the biological/sexual differences between men and women justify the different ways women and men are treated socially, what opportunities are available to us.

That's bollocks and here's why: the men's advantage of being bigger and stronger is much diminished compared to even 100 years ago. Most of the things that "only men" could do have been replaced by automation. e.g. we no longer plow fields with an ox, we use a tractor that even a feeble old man can drive. No matter how many boxing matches you win, a gun is the ultimate force equalizer.

In many other examples you might want to use to demonstrate the hallowed, biologically-decreed masculine superiority there are documented and sustained efforts on the part of men to keep women OUT of these jobs. So it isn't that women can't do these jobs; the men make themselves obnoxious and horrible to work with to deter women from taking these jobs.

When I pointed this out you started flailing and gesticulating at AI models, as if AI models are infallible (they aren't.)

I'm not denying that you're taller, faster, or stronger than me. I just don't think it makes much difference in modernity, when we're no longer reliant on hard manual labor to get our daily bread. Socially, the biological differences between the sexes and gender have a tenuous relationship at best. Men used to wear tights and block heel shoes to court, but male formalwear has changed and so they wear suits and ties.

There are some biological differences that matter; mainly childbearing. Women can do that, men cannot. There are some other medical situations in which physical sex is important. But I'm not going to go ahead and agree with you that it's natural law that women must wear the tights and high heels, or that only men can be plumbers/police detectives/firefighters/whatever.
You put ideology above reality, so I accused you of lying because of your insistence.
You're the one dreaming of some just-so story where it's just and natural for men to control women, keep us out of "male" jobs, and regulate our reproduction as if we were livestock.
Obviously I'm not ok with the rather abominable crap about your child or insulting you, but this is not my forum and I am not a mod. Maybe you'll understand better as your child grows into a man, hopefully a normal one, not a weak one brainwashed into feminist dogma.
It was a girl :)
 
So it isn't that women can't do these jobs; the men make themselves obnoxious and horrible to work with to deter women from taking these jobs.
Explain how you get this powerplant to top dead center.

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Protip: I could not do it alone.
 
Explain how you get this powerplant to top dead center.

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Protip: I could not do it alone.
Nice hobby bro.are you trying to mog me with a car repair puzzler?? I’d tell you to call in to Cartalk but one of the hosts died of old age.

How about you tell me how prokaryotic DNA replication works and the purpose of the 40s and 60s subunits? (Hint: they are not involved in DNA replication.) Nimrod, do you even know what Toll receptors do? I bet you can’t name all the mutant drosophila and their traits either. You could run an electrophoresis gel to save your goddamn life, let alone cast one. You probably can’t even sew a pair of pants or work a sewing machine. :smug face: (this is what you sound like.)

I may not have your specialized knowledge in modding old V8 engine cars. You may not know as much as me about molecular biology or sewing. Does that make me a lesser person compared to you? I think not.
 
So this is a thread where a self doxing fat white lady with vacant cow eyes (or a sentient cow with long stringy hair?) argues with strangers about Catholicism and her ☆ideas♡ while she ignores a babby and husband?

Huh. How 'bout that.

Does it not know about, like, Nextdoor? Just, seems more its vibe. Maybe it can come back when it affects Christory, or boils a hamster?
 
Nice hobby bro.are you trying to mog me with a car repair puzzler?? I’d tell you to call in to Cartalk but one of the hosts died of old age.

How about you tell me how prokaryotic DNA replication works and the purpose of the 40s and 60s subunits? (Hint: they are not involved in DNA replication.) Nimrod, do you even know what Toll receptors do? I bet you can’t name all the mutant drosophila and their traits either. You could run an electrophoresis gel to save your goddamn life, let alone cast one. You probably can’t even sew a pair of pants or work a sewing machine. :smug face: (this is what you sound like.)

I may not have your specialized knowledge in modding old V8 engine cars. You may not know as much as me about molecular biology or sewing. Does that make me a lesser person compared to you? I think not.
Don't patronize me cuntface. You claim that men and women are equal in all things, and I am proving to you that no, we are not. I don't have any interest in drosophila, mutant or otherwise, but I am equally certain you cannot explain the basic fundamentals of quantum mechanics without referring to half a dozen high school level textbooks in front of you.

Because you are an absolute yenta, I must point out that what I asked you has absolutely nothing to do with modding car engines of any type, its is about regular car maintenance so your car doesn't blow up or die on a highway when everyone around you is doing 65 mph or more, which happened to more than one of my uni roommates because they too were strong feminist women who couldn't find their ass with their own two hands, let alone remember to check their vehicles had oil every so often so it wouldn't throw a rod through the block on said freeway.

You see, they, like you, thought knowing basic mechanical skills indicated one was working class and so this was beneath them, when in reality just showed they were racist, elitist snobs who expected their male partners to take care of it.

And by the way bitch I have been sewing since I was six years old, that's how I learned how motors function and how to maintain them.

And don't called me bro, I'm not a man. Get off the internet, clean you home and take care of your child instead of spewing garbage online.
 
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How about you tell me how prokaryotic DNA replication works and the purpose of the 40s and 60s subunits? (Hint: they are not involved in DNA replication.) Nimrod, do you even know what Toll receptors do? I bet you can’t name all the mutant drosophila and their traits either. You could run an electrophoresis gel to save your goddamn life, let alone cast one.
It was for answering questions like these that Marge was able to negotiate her STEM degree to the highly competitive position of church office lady. What a waste of a STEM degree and a female in STEM scholarship, all so Marge could be a churchmarm.

Marge, the only incubator you run these days is your cunt. I'm sure your Master's is essential as you fold the church bulletins for Sunday.
You probably can’t even sew a pair of pants or work a sewing machine. :smug face: (this is what you sound like.)
Ah yes, the measure of a woman.
 
I used to think it was arbitrary that I was baptized and confirmed in the sect I was born to, but after living in Judaism for awhile I came out stronger and more Episcopalian than ever. I guess that’s what happens when you spend too much time in upside-down Calvinball Orthodox Jewland; levirate women and the grace of Christ become very important to you.
So was one of your partners Jewish or something? How can you live in Judaism if you're not a Jew?
 
So was one of your partners Jewish or something?
She toyed around in Judaism, but she couldn't square it with her true faith, progressivism. She still throws out verses she thinks are dumb to this day. G-d is subject to her, not her to G-d. Exactly what you'd want in charge of your church.
Episcopalians come in varying forms and guaranteed she's not in the more conservative communion.
Her priest is a woman, so yeah.
Imagine not servicing your own sewing machine smh
why you little sew and sew
 
So was one of your partners Jewish or something? How can you live in Judaism if you're not a Jew?
There's a rampant breed of instagram-y middle aged evangelicals doin' jew-y cosplay right now, callin' ghad "YAHWAH" and "ABBA", celebratin' "SABBATH", and all that. They think it makes them sound smart.

They still roll on shabbos, tho.
 
Episcopalians come in varying forms and guaranteed she's not in the more conservative communion.
The Episcopal Church (TEC) is in the Anglican Communion. Alternative/ "conservative"/ breakaway churches/members are not members of TEC and thus not "Episcopalians" or in the Anglican Communion, though they may declare themselves Anglican. The two largest actors in the conservative Anglican space (in America) are the Anglican Church of North America and the Traditional Anglican Communion (now Church).

Membership:
Anglican Communion:
(mainstream)
  • Anglican Communion members: 85 million.
  • Episcopal Church (in the US): 1.7 million.
Non-"Anglican Communion" members:
(not Episcopalian/not part of TEC/not part of the Anglican Communion)
  • Traditional Anglican Church (formerly Traditional Anglican Communion): 300,000, counting 14 communioned churches across 6 continents.
  • Anglican Church of North America: 125,000.
The Episcopalians I know would be appalled.
Sure. But regardless of individual views,
  • Episcopalians (TEC) have ordained women for nearly 50 years.
  • As of 2019, 38% of Episcopal priests, and 21% of Episcopalian bishops, were women.
  • All dioceses have ordained women priests.
  • And of course there are also women bishops (since 1989); the first woman primate was named in 2006.
The Church of England (about 1.1 million members and head of the 85 million-member Anglican Communion) green-lighted women priests 31 years ago.
  • In 2017, 30% of clergy in the C of E were women, and in 2018, 54% of those starting clerical training in the C of E were women.
The majority of the Anglican Communion have ordained women priests, and many have elected bishops.

Perhaps you are thinking of one of the conservative Episcopal breakaway groups/the Continuing Anglican effort? Of course there are protests and breakaway groups - it is the Anglican/Episcopal Church/community, after all.

The Anglican Church of North America (ACNA) might be the largest single breakaway church* (about 125,000 members) - it broke away from TEC in 2009, in the interest of a more conservative/ orthodox Anglicanism. The ACNA is not part of the Anglican Communion**. (At least one parish of the ACNA joined TEC last year.). The ACNA seeks entry into the Anglican Communion but do not yet have it.

The ACNA was created by the American Anglican Council (AAC). The AAC position on women priests:
The AAC has individual members and affiliate congregations/ministries with differing views on women’s ordination, and we respect these differing opinions. We also partner with provinces around the Global Anglican Communion, including the ACNA, who also have differing views. The AAC is committed to finding continued common ground in our work with all Anglican provinces, despite differing views on such issues, towards a more conciliar approach to Anglicanism worldwide.

As for the ACNA itself, they said this about women priests in 2017:
We agree that there is insufficient scriptural warrant to accept women’s ordination to the priesthood as standard practice throughout the Province. However, we continue to acknowledge that individual dioceses have constitutional authority to ordain women to the priesthood.
(The ACNA does not permit women to be elected bishops, however.)


Tl, dr: Episcopalianism endorses women clergy. In the wider Anglican Communion, women clergy continue to become more commonplace, particularly in English-speaking countries' churches. The largest conservative (Continuing) Anglican church in America has taken a Federalist approach to women priests.


*There are a number of other minor Anglican churches, some gathered under the Traditional Anglican Church (TAC) (until 2020, the Traditional Anglican Communion) (total members, with 14 communion partners across 6 continents, about 300,000) umbrella. It's a constantly changing set of alliances/ communions.

** The ACNA is in communion with following - cheers!:
  • The Anglican Church of Nigeria
  • The Anglican Church of Kenya
  • The Church of Uganda
  • The Anglican Church of the Southern Cone of America
  • Province de L’Eglise Anglicane au Rwanda
  • The Anglican Church of Tanzania
  • The Episcopal Church of Jerusalem and the Middle East
  • Province de L’Eglise Anglicane Du Congo
  • The Church of the Province of South East Asia
 
So this is a thread where a self doxing fat white lady with vacant cow eyes (or a sentient cow with long stringy hair?) argues with strangers about Catholicism and her ☆ideas♡ while she ignores a babby and husband?
Yes. Maggie claims to hate this but she will instigate every single argument. She will put you on ignore but will read and argue every post you make anyway.
Does it not know about, like, Nextdoor? Just, seems more its vibe. Maybe it can come back when it affects Christory, or boils a hamster?
On Nextdoor she’s just another crazy neighbor but on Kiwi Farms, she’s a much bigger fish in a much smaller pond. She’s a huge (pun intended) attention whore.
There's a rampant breed of instagram-y middle aged evangelicals doin' jew-y cosplay right now, callin' ghad "YAHWAH" and "ABBA", celebratin' "SABBATH", and all that. They think it makes them sound smart.

They still roll on shabbos, tho.
Reminds me of a couple decades ago when wine moms and aunts were into Kabbalah because Madonna was. They used to sell copies of the Zohar at Target. This was before those same wine moms and aunts became Buddhist because of Eat, Pray, Love. I understand why other cultures get mad at cultural appropriation because people like Maggie who pretend to be enlightened for knowing tidbits of things but not enough to spend more than five minutes researching anything.
 
Don't patronize me cuntface. You claim that men and women are equal in all things,
No. I carved out several clear biological exceptions. Why are you so mad at me?
and I am proving to you that no, we are not. I don't have any interest in drosophila, mutant or otherwise, but I am equally certain you cannot explain the basic fundamentals of quantum mechanics without referring to half a dozen high school level textbooks in front of you.
OK, so all you've shown is that different people specialize in different things and have different hobbies. This is how civilization works: we don't all have to scrabble and forage for food, so we do different things for mutual benefit.
How is it that my specializations are somehow inferior to yours?
What are you even trying to get out of this? Besides asspat stickers from Middlefag, that is.
You see, they, like you, thought knowing basic mechanical skills indicated one was working class and so this was beneath them, when in reality just showed they were racist, elitist snobs who expected their male partners to take care of it.
I don't think it's beneath me, I can jump a car and swap a tire, but it's not my forte. That doesn't make me inferior to you any less than you not knowing shit about how your cells are persisting and keeping you alive makes you inferior to me. (I think it's the seething that makes you inferior to me.) So please don't condescend to me, bitch.
And don't called me bro, I'm not a man. Get off the internet, clean you home and take care of your child instead of spewing garbage online.
U first bro (pretending to be a female on the Internet)
The Episcopalians I know would be appalled.
I'm a member of the Episcopal Church (US). We are in convention with Lambeth and in communion with the Anglicans, but our relationship with them is somewhat strained. Our head of faith is the Bishop Primate, the Most Rev. Michael Curry. I'm sure you'd hate it here.

So was one of your partners Jewish or something? How can you live in Judaism if you're not a Jew?
I'm not Jewish, I just admire their practices and try to incorporate some of them in my life because I think they are useful. I'm not perfect at following my own rules, but I deeply enjoy lighting Shabbos candles, logging off, and spending time with my family on Fridays and Saturdays, because my Sundays are usually consumed with church business.
There are conservatives within the Episcopalian (and Anglican communion) and many are leaving. Just because you don't know any does not mean they don't exist.
The schism Episcopalians who left because they are mad about gay rights or whatever are a minority of a minority. There's rather few practicing Christians who come to church every Sunday in any denomination.

To the anti-fan club: I know you're mad that I'm here, and obsessed with me. Just know that you are proving my point that the Farms is a cruel, obsessive Internet community of volunteer stalkers, and when you send me death threats (looking at you, @bird.up) you are demonstrating to me why you can't get any positive press coverage.
 
To the anti-fan club: I know you're mad that I'm here, and obsessed with me. Just know that you are proving my point that the Farms is a cruel, obsessive Internet community of volunteer stalkers, and when you send me death threats (looking at you, @bird.up) you are demonstrating to me why you can't get any positive press coverage.
No, child. You are the stalker.
 
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