Cultcow Russell Greer / Mr. Green / @ just_some_dude_named_russell29 / A Safer Nevada PAC - Swift-Obsessed Sex Pest, Convicted of E-Stalking, "Eggshell Skull Plaintiff" Pro Se Litigant, Homeless, aspiring brothel owner

[theshep]

Question for LDS Kiwis: What exactly is a "temple recommend" and why is it a big deal to lose it/not have it?

 

[Drowningman]

Last night in typical Russ he removed yesterdays whining post about his lawsuit and the farms then added 2 more denver bronco cheerleaders to his stalking list and then went back to wooing cheerleaders after a week off. It;s just emoji's but it shows typical Russ behavior, He keeps repeating himself learning NOTHING,

 

[Sexy Senior Citizen]

He keeps repeating himself learning NOTHING

Some years back, Russell claimed to have a Mensa-level IQ. On the official Mensa website, they have an unofficial IQ test (by which I mean it's just for fun and doesn't hold the weight of an officially proctored exam.) This test is based around pattern recognition: you have to recognize the pattern, and use it to predict the next image in the sequence. Taking a proctored Mensa IQ test is a bucket list item I haven't checked off, but I'd assume the official test works in a similar way.

What I'm getting at is this: Russell lacks the theory of the mind to understand what works and what doesn't. He cannot recognize patterns and adjust accordingly. He's only stumbled into success by blind luck and sympathy from authority figures.

It's worth noting, Russell, that none of this has to do with your face.

 

[Aero the Alcoholic Bat]

It's worth noting, Russell, that none of this has to do with your face.

It's another one of those instances where the feel-good cliche of "don't judge a book by its cover," doesn't apply.

Oh, you can judge a book by its cover. You absolutely can. In Russell's case and so many others, they're just as ugly on the inside as on the outside.

 

[Bill Evans 45]

He'd do well not to run afoul of the Swifties or gain their attention in any way.

I know it's wrong to start a Novena for this to happen, so I'm going to get my letter to Santa sent extra early this year. I have been good except for that one thing and the other thing, so here's hoping.

ETA Would it be wrong to pray for a Greer Tomlinson crossover? It would be bringing two lonely and friendless entities together. We know Russ is flexisexual and impressed by entry level cars. Pat is 'into things' and hates religion so it could be a love story for the ages.

 

[Richard Harrow]

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Not LDS, but just asked an acquaintance of mine who is indeed LDS and he said it essentially is a "Letter of Good Standing," which is commonplace in many Protestant denominations as well. It basically declares that the prospective member (these are used when moving to another "home church") is not an apostate, has not committed acts of heresy or sinful acts devoid of repentance. Similar practices also include "Certificates of Baptism" which is pretty self-explanatory.

 

[a hapless toad]

In the most basic sense, and what i feel comfortable saying, it allows you to go into our temples, participate in various ceremonies such as a temple marriage, and for men, recieve the priesthood. It is a massive privilege to hold it.

Since when is receiving the priesthood a temple ordinance? Don't you have to be a Melchizedek priesthood holder before your endowment (which has to happen before a temple marriage)?

 

[WelperHelper99]

Since when is receiving the priesthood a temple ordinance? Don't you have to be a Melchizedek priesthood holder before your endowment (which has to happen before a temple marriage)?

Order of operations. Melchizedek requires the temple.

 

[StinkySnack]

This Mormon shit is boring and stupid.

 

[Piggle Rick]

This Mormon shit is boring and stupid.

As opposed to writing retch-inducing porn about Russell doing you in the ass?

 

[kcbbq]

I dunno how you Mormons do it, but other here in the Catholic camp (at least nowadays), you have to publicly do something profoundly scandalous to get excommunicated.

Even then, it's not a permanent ban for life. It's just barring you from the Sacraments until further notice.

Catholicism excommunication was always non-permanent, because the danger of getting it wrong whether someone actually repented is huge. Those judgements aren't theirs to make. That's why the various Inquisitions were far less dire than modern mythology about them makes it look, or that there was a Devil's Advocate until recently, or that they kept letting the Cathar Perfects back in repeatedly until they killed them and a shitload of innocents to get rid of that problem.

 

[StinkySnack]

As opposed to writing retch-inducing porn about Russell doing you in the ass?

Yes.

 

[Cheesegirl78]

This Mormon shit is boring and stupid.

Can we stop discussing Mormons?

I find it interesting, but Stinky is going to write more Russell porn if y'all don't stop.

 

[Sir Dank-a-Lot]

This Mormon shit is boring and stupid.

It’s too bad that this is the only fucking thread on this website. If there was only somewhere else to go if I were bored with the content.

There’s a link towards the bottom of the page that says “Forums”. Click it. How fucking easy is that?!

 

[Pee Cola]

This Mormon shit is boring and stupid.

I respectfully disagree. I can't speak for anyone else, but the last couple pages of technical info about LDS has given me a bit more context around Russhole's upbringing, and what his relationship with the church (and by extension his parents) probably looks like right now.

 

[Debbie Macomber]

I don't think a lot of people are getting why a temple recommend is so important to Mormons and just how holistically restrictive one is.

The temples are where Mormons do "work" for people such as their infamous baptisms of the dead, which they would consider among their most important work. If you don't have a temple recommend, you're a bad Mormon. To have a temple recommend you must be "worthy". Reasons for not getting a temple recommend include:

1. Drinking any amount of alcohol, coffee, or tea. If you have ever drank any of these substances for any reason you must repent before being allowed a temple recommend.
2. Watching any amount of Pornography
3. Not paying enough money. To hold a temple recommend you must pay tithing, a 10th of your income every month no matter what, and if you aren't a "full tithe payer" you have to cough up what you "owe" in "back tithing" before you're worthy, and you have to pay "fast offering" on top of that.

Mormons believe God gives bishops the power to read your mind, so lying isn't an option.
Thus, a temple recommend is a form of control the church exercises over your life and mind and money in perpetuity for the privilege of being a full member.

It isn't like how one can be a lapsed Catholic who drinks too much or a liberal Protestant who partakes in premarital sex. There can be no such thing as a temple recommend carrying Mormon who drinks tea or doesn't pay tithing every month without fail. You have to agree with and live by the church on every single issue ever or you can't go to the temple. Have one cup of tea in the morning or one tithing check is a dollar short, and you're out.

Hence why Russell couldn't just go back and get a temple recommend for his sister's wedding. To do that, he'd have to confess all his sins to the bishop and swear off hookers and porn and coffee and pledge 10% of his income for the rest of his life and truly mean it so he can pass the bishops' mindreading powers.

Thus, Russ was already in a state of apostasy when he lied to his bishop about going to the Bunny Ranch. He no longer believed God gives Mormon bishops mindreading abilities, and rejected Mormonism's claim of divine authority. He even says he felt sick, not because he lied to his bishop, but because he lied about Dennis Hof and the Bunny Ranch.

 

[Drowningman]

And the LDS gives us insight to what helped Russ have the unique insight on his anti drinking plus other behavior.

 

[StinkySnack]

It’s too bad that this is the only fucking thread on this website. If there was only somewhere else to go if I were bored with the content.

There’s a link towards the bottom of the page that says “Forums”. Click it. How fucking easy is that?!

Calm down nigger.

 

[AnOminous]

That's why the various Inquisitions were far less dire than modern mythology about them makes it look, or that there was a Devil's Advocate until recently, or that they kept letting the Cathar Perfects back in repeatedly until they killed them and a shitload of innocents to get rid of that problem.

They may not have such an official position any more, but they actually consulted Christopher Hitchens during the process of beatifying Mother Theresa (who has subsequently been actually canonized).

I find it interesting, but Stinky is going to write more Russell porn if y'all don't stop.

I dare his fucking ass.

I will retort with a lengthy dissertation on the various forms of Catholic excommunication including latae sententiae and how it differs in formal process from Mormon excommunication practices.

Don't say I didn't warn you!

Also quit saying y'all unless you are a Southerner or a Negroid recipient of the Curse of Ham.

 

[Polexia Aphrodisia]

because he lied about Dennis Hof and the Bunny Ranch.

You mean he had denied his good friends, Dennis and Suze and the whores.

That's how he puts it in his book!