'I'm so upset': This Gen Z worker went absolutely viral for slamming the 9-to-5 work day - Complains it leaves no time for friends, dating, working out. But does she have a point?

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Sabina Wex
Thu, October 26, 2023 at 5:00 PM EDT

Gen Z have officially entered the working world — and they aren’t too excited about it.
New grad Brielle posted a viral TikTok last week that has divided the internet. She explained through tears that her first 9-to-5 role leaves her no time to do anything but eat, sleep and shower. Brielle has to leave the house at 7:30 each morning to commute into New York for her in-office marketing job and doesn’t arrive back until at least 6:15 p.m.

“I’m so upset,” she says in the video, explaining that it’s not her job, just the 9-to-5 schedule itself. “How do you have time for friends? How do you have time to meet a guy?”
Her video blew up online, drawing some sharp responses initially. But many other replies were sympathetic, recalling the difficult first days of settling into a new lifestyle: “I had a crisis when I got my first 9-to-5 job. Literally I couldn’t believe this was life.”
So is Brielle complaining? Or is the 9-to-5 lifestyle really that bad?

40-hour work week​

In a follow-up to her viral video, Brielle explains how she feels about work: “That’s the whole 9-to-5 system: pushing the same rock up the hill.”
Brielle’s not wrong: the 40-hour work week was designed to be Sisyphean. It began in the Industrial Revolution to create schedules for assembly line workers, but in the late 1800s, 70 hours would have been common, says Benjamin Hunnicutt, a historian who studies the history of leisure and work, told NPR.
That was slowly whittled down until the 40-hour week became the norm during the Great Depression until it was enshrined in law in the 1940s. Economists and analysts expected the week would continue to shrink — John Maynard Keynes actually predicted that technological advances could see the workweek shrink to just 15 hours by 2030.
But that never happened. In fact, now, all workers are expected to fit into this assembly line mold — even if they’re working in marketing office jobs, like Brielle.
There has been a push for the four-day work week, which advocates like 4 Day Week Global argue increases worker efficiency. It hasn’t quite caught on in the U.S., but the recent “summer of strikes” has shown that workers of all ages do want to see drastic changes from their employers.

Poor equity​

In another follow-up video, Brielle explains that she wants to see a structural change to the 9-to-5 work schedule because it imposes inflexibility on workers that don’t always make it up the chain of command.
“It’s not fair that the only people that are benefiting [from 9-to-5] are the people that either run the corporations and can make their own schedules, so they just pile on the work to people that are less fortunate,” she says.
And while many would argue those workers are fairly compensated for their time, growing wages simply haven’t kept up with inflation. If you look at the minimum wage, you can see this is true: 1980’s minimum hourly wage was $3.10; today, it’s $7.25. This may sound like a big jump, but inflation means that a dollar in the 1980 is worth $3.68 in today’s purchasing power. If minimum wage accurately reflected inflation and cost of living, it would now be $11.40.
We’ve already seen trends responding to this, including Gen Z’s penchant for what they call “lazy girl jobs,” which require minimal effort while taking in a decent salary. When their paychecks aren’t covering both rent and groceries, it’s not hard to understand why employees are resisting the system.

Work-life balance​

Considering work and her commute take up nearly 11 hours of her day, Brielle has a point when she says she has limited time — and energy — for a social life after work. She adds that it’s even worse if you have kids or any other dependents.
But this lack of life is starting to see pushback from people like Brielle. A recent ResumeLab survey discovered that 73% of Gen Z will pick a job with a better work-life balance over a higher salary.
Brielle’s TikTok sums up the general feelings toward work culture right now. And it appears it’s not just Gen Z who feels this way, with many older workers agreeing with her in their comments. And perhaps these older workers would have said something earlier, but they didn’t have TikTok to share their message far and wide.
 
I'm sure this thread's going to be swarmed with variations of "suck it up zoomie zoom, I worked 25 hours a day when I was your age!", but she's kind of got a point. When the 40-hour workweek was conceived, it was assumed you would have a wife to take care of the home, with possibly older kids pitching in. Now if you have a spouse at all they have to work too to keep their heads above water, and good luck putting your kids to work without getting CPS and OSHA so far up your ass you'll end up with papercuts on the back of your throat. It's no wonder so many couples are getting divorced these days, the men feel like they're getting a raw deal when they have to go to some shit job and still have to pitch in for at least 50% of the housework, the women feel like they're getting burned because they have to somehow juggle childcare, housework, and having a career. But I somehow doubt any journalist is going to open that particular can of worms.
I saw parts of the video, the girl is whiny, but there is an underlying tragedy to it all that you're pointing out. Ironically, she's making me blame women slightly less for the state of everything. Listening to her complaining, part of what she's saying is "how do people actually live like this?" and I don't think she's totally wrong. She asks how she's supposed to have time for friends or find a guy. She wants to find a guy, and looking at her, she at least doesn't look like some wacky woke feminist, she looks pretty normal. How are young people supposed to find a mate and do the traditional things, when they have no place to meet, and no time to find each other? Is it any wonder we're all stuck with the hell that is dating apps?

If you work in an office, you spend practically all day preparing for work, commuting, or at work itself, maybe squeeze in time for a workout or something if you're lucky, eat dinner, go to sleep, and wake up the next day. That's no way to live. Boomers act like it's just lazy young people, but things were a lot easier in their day. The wife could stay home, the one factory worker salary could afford a nice house and car and kids, now everyone's stuck working a job they hate just to keep their heads above water. If this were an older guy ranting instead of crying, and blaming it on Joe Biden, Boomers would be cheering it on. I don't think she's wrong, just annoying.

And this is coming from a guy who hangs out in the "Woman hate thread."
It's genuinely one of the biggest problems I have with boomers: they live as if the world today was the exact same as the world when they were young adults and are intent on not changing anything until it's too late or affects them negatively. Employers actively try to exploit their workers more than ever nowadays, from trying to get them to work longer hours, not giving them the proper training and just throwing them straight into the production line, human resources forcing a fake and gay culture onto the workers, etc. From the software side of things, it often doesn't take 8 hours to do work and unless you are doing something related to manufacturing or where you are creating physical goods (with the exception of hospitality, sales and restaurants), it really takes away from other aspects of life that are just as important (socialization, dating, hobbies, rest, learning, etc.). There was a study that determined that medieval peasants had a shit load more free time than we do now.

Put that another way, we're being exploited by our bosses to a higher degree now than in the Middle Ages for less. That's fucking shameful. I'm not going to go on a whole rant, but the circumstances around working are so sacrosanct to some people, they wold rather die than make it better for themselves and other people. This chick is kinda whiny and annoying, but she has a point: at least when people were farmers, there was a good incentive to work for long hours because your life depended on your work. Likewise, in the '50s to the early '70s, ia 9-5 job was perfectly reasonable since you could go home, rest and have a wife that would watch the house and kids to keep you company as well. That's not even mentioning social avenues like church, bars, social interest clubs. Now that's not even the case.

I started working part time at age eleven by lying about my age so I could wash dishes in some diner because I had a rough home life. But I liked the feeling that I could work hard and be rewarded. And the feeling of completing something tangible, even if it was just a stack of clean plates, was empowering at a time when my family life was unstable. It likely kept me from going on a bad path in life. And the adults I worked with kept an eye out for me and tried to encourage me.

This lady’s problem is partly that she’s aware she has a fake marketing job. Her coworkers are fake, this is pretend girl shit, she produces nothing as valuable as clean forks.

So yeah, the idea she has to pretend to be contributing anything must be exhausting.
The destruction of the US' manufacturing base has been a disaster for this country.
 
I actually do not disagree with the concept of more flexibility in scheduling where that can be done. Some industries are always going to need someone during certain hours because those are the accepted business hours and that is not going to change.

It is a complicated topic.

Not sure how good for her career going on in the Internet shit talking her job and blaming it on her period is but she will probably be fine.
 
I actually do not disagree with the concept of more flexibility in scheduling where that can be done. Some industries are always going to need someone during certain hours because those are the accepted business hours and that is not going to change.

It is a complicated topic.

Not sure how good for her career going on in the Internet shit talking her job and blaming it on her period is but she will probably be fine.
I can understand that in the case of industries that are critical to maintaining hardware/software infrastructure or only have a physical component, but most jobs aren't critical enough to justify constantly commuting and working 8 hours there and then going back, especially when at the end of the day, they can be done from home or anywhere with a good Internet connection (or even just the ability to post code onto Github). Working from home made me realize that there were definite reasons for the brick-and-mortar model that used to hold true, but don't really anymore. Manufacturing/maintenance, education, food service/sales and a lot of security work (no matter how simple or complicated) will require a physical headquarters to coordinate things, but we live in an era where it's entirely possible to do your average white-collar job from home.
 
There was a study that determined that medieval peasants had a shit load more free time than we do now
This may be so, but their supposed free time was spent doing laundry for the whole day, spending several hours preparing and cooking meals, tilling their personal crops with nothing but an ox or auroch attached to a plow, spinning thread and making fabric on a loom for making clothing and blankets. Being a medieval peasant sucked donkey balls.
 
She asks how she's supposed to have time for friends or find a guy. She wants to find a guy, and looking at her, she at least doesn't look like some wacky woke feminist, she looks pretty normal. How are young people supposed to find a mate and do the traditional things, when they have no place to meet, and no time to find each other? Is it any wonder we're all stuck with the hell that is dating apps?
Besides weekend and evenings, as others pointed out, it's nearly certain her definition of "find a guy" is the usual insane expectations of incredible looks and economic situation, rather than actually average guy, in the vain hope of being rescued from needing to work. Not to mention she probably socialize a lot at work there anyways and could find a guy in the same office.

This is why I find this article hard to sympathise with. It's a grown woman who works in a place with an insane commute, probably on her phone most of the time, who will not date 99% of the male population, that expects having 8 hours to party every night and likely talks on how working is empowering while trying to whore herself to a guy who will make sure she never works again.
 
This why women graduate college and go strait to marrying a man with a good career and become "stay at home moms" . All the dumb ugly blue haired feminists said that the traditional home of a man earning the living and the wife handling all the household shit was sexist and wrong. They convinced an entire generation "they don't need no man" and women were dumb enouugh to buy all their lies, till they realized they would have to work like an adult; that is what this woman is experiencing, reality.
 
Someone check her voting.

Does she support unlimited immigration and immigration amnesty?

Does she support offshoring of America's manufacturing?

Does she tweet and post laughter at Rust Belt and Coal Best woes?

Because half of these people bitching have a "No Human is Illegal" bumpsticker.
 
he concept of more flexibility in scheduling where that can be done
most jobs aren't critical enough to justify constantly commuting and working 8 hours there and then going back, especially when at the end of the day, they can be done from home or anywhere with a good Internet connection
Agreed, more flexibility would be appreciated.
In my experience, most office jobs, even at manufacturing companies, require about 5 hours of actual work per day. In some cases even less. I fucking hate sitting at the office 3-4 hours a day just to clock in 8 hours total, wasting both my and the company's time. I really wish I could just leave when I'm done with my work, because my continued presence adds no extra value whatsoever. I just read books these days, after I'm done with everything. I suppose the reason why leaving on your own accord is not allowed, because it would create a rift between colleagues. Some people work slower than others and they would find it unfair, that I always leave early, why they "have to" stay longer, because they are inefficient retards.
Home office is entirely possible, because my physical presence is not required, but after Covid, I have come to the realization, most normies actually hate being at home with their families, so they love to escape into the office. Companies obviously love this, because all the office space is not going to waste, so now everyone is expected to show up. Fortunately, I'm allowed to work from home for a few days a week, so I usually take out Mondays and/or Fridays.
 
Her complaint about commuting is amusing to me, since I regularly spend up to 3 hours in traffic on a daily basis.
What most people will never know is the freedom of working for yourself. It was revelatory to me to observe the difference in behaviour between wagies and self-employed people, during the Covid hysteria. - The majority of men I work with and deal with regularly had no fear of it at all, the reason being that as self-employed individuals, we already live on the edge and our bar for what we consider risky or scary is much higher than it is for others who've only ever relied on someone else for income.
 
This lady’s problem is partly that she’s aware she has a fake marketing job. Her coworkers are fake, this is pretend girl shit, she produces nothing as valuable as clean forks.
There is a very old article on strike magazine about this: https://ghostarchive.org/archive/Wv9aj
This woman's problem is solved by setting up a side-hustle and growing it into a proper small business.
For men this would be something like landscaping or fixit work.
For her, maybe decorating? Closet organizing?

What most people will never know is the freedom of working for yourself.
The massive tax surcharges?
The thicket of regulations that require you to retain an entire legal team?
The bribery required to operate in any city larger than 30,000 souls?
The horrific liability laws?
The 15 federal regulators breathing down your neck?
The 20 state regulators inspecting every sperm in your testicles one by one?
The credit rating agencies punishing your score by an average of -200 points because you run your own business and they're not set up to take that into account?
 
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Technology has massively multiplied the labour output of an individual. Mass production has led to a massive decrease in scarcity. The rise of non-manual labour jobs has led to far greater ability to work into old age. We SHOULD be able to scale back our working hours in favour of more leisure and social life. But you have to accept that none of this is compatible with unrestricted immigration because an easy and cheap importable labour pool and competition for resources, prevents cutting back. Unless you reduce your immigrants to some kind of 2nd Class slave labour pool like Saudi Arabia does. Even then, that is untenable as well as cruel.
 
Someone check her voting.

Does she support unlimited immigration and immigration amnesty?

Does she support offshoring of America's manufacturing?

Does she tweet and post laughter at Rust Belt and Coal Best woes?

Because half of these people bitching have a "No Human is Illegal" bumpsticker.
Could we said she got what she fuckin' desserve as the Joker might said?

Btw, she need to see that classic comedy titled "9 to 5". :story:

And no need to gues she might hate that vlog from Black Conservative Perspective.
 
I have come to the realization, most normies actually hate being at home with their families, so they love to escape into the office
I used to work with this guy who was pretty much the definition of that shit. The shift at that place was supposed to be 8-4:30 with possible overtime if all the jobs weren't finished. That dude worked 8-6 Monday to Saturday every week all because he hated going home to his wife and kid. He was pretty much in love with the receptionist and would get all flirty and shit with her all the time but if his wife called or the few times his wife and kid showed up at work he'd get so miserable. It's not like she was unattractive or anything and the few times I met her she seemed nice. But he just did not want to go home he fucking hated it.
 
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