2023 Israel-Palestine Armed Conflict

[EyeGuy]

I think I've asked this in the past, but just what the hell is it about Bibi that's made him stay in politics/ hold the prime ministership for this long? Because I remember this guy being prime minister even back in the fucking 90's. Is this a case where his partly literally has no one else, or does he just have his hands in that many pies or has that many people that owe him favors?

There's a few reasons:
1. Historically the Likud base have been very loyal to their leadership. With the way the Israeli political system is set up, this means that as long as the right/religious parties win a majority in the Knesset, the Likud leader is guaranteed to be PM.
2. Bibi has more or less purged anyone who isn't a complete sycophant from the party apparatus.
3. He has (or had, in any case) tremendous personal popularity among the religious and right-wing population. Even if you hated him, you had to admit that there wasn't any other figure in Israel who could compete with his presence on the world stage (especially considering his command of English).

 

[Drag-on Knight 91873]

Looks like he’s trying right now.
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lol ComStar, the wizards in Battletech that get everyone to fight each other all the time and caused a technological backslide. Anyways, it doesn't sound like he will because he wants authorization from the UN via NGOs. So really, if the US allows it.

 

[Feline Supremacist]

lol ComStar, the wizards in Battletech that get everyone to fight each other all the time and caused a technological backslide. Anyways, it doesn't sound like he will because he wants authorization from the UN via NGOs. So really, if the US allows it.

Maybe not? idk

 

[quaawaa]

Why the fuck does the IDF Twitter account write its tweets/press releases like a fucking American teenaged girl?

Because that is who is writing the tweets.

 

[Drag-on Knight 91873]

Maybe not? idk
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So yeah, it's not happening. Musk isn't going to risk the US fucking with his attempt to create his version of globohomo by helping Palestinians/Hamas.

 

[Criticallacitirc]

American Leftists:

"In the matrix of power dynamics that sustains contemporary global politics, the persistent enactment of American imperialism not only obfuscates the inherent plurality of subjectivities, but also perpetuates an ontological violence against those who stand on the periphery. To envisage a world of egalitarianism and interdependent co-existence, we must collectively disavow such hegemonic maneuvers and work towards deconstructing the structures that authorize and normalize them"

Also leftists:

"America please go and force Israel into a ceasefire "

 

[Kiwiballs]

Maybe not? idk
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Lol I imagine Zelensky sweating balls on how he should react to this, most likely figuring out that he shouldn't at all.
Praying nobody asks him to comment.

 

[Jump]

oy vey! (a)

 

[Kiwiballs]

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oy vey! (a)

Lol I'd like to see Turkey just stroll over Hezbollah and Syrian controlled territory and be like "yoo....let bygones be bygones, eh?"

 

[gay]

"Still waiting for all of your apologies and condemnations of Hamas."

whoever handles the AP account should nut up and reply with "As soon as you apologize for bombing our offices in 2021."

 

[make_it_so]

Lol I'd like to see Turkey just stroll over Hezbollah and Syrian controlled territory and be like "yoo....let bygones be bygones, eh?"

It'd would be extremely ironic if Syria/Iran and Hezbollah indirectly wind up serving as allies to Israel by blocking any attempt by the Turks to move into the region - due not to any love of Israel, of course, but simply out of wanting to keep the Turks in check.

But I doubt anything's actually going to happen. This is just bombastic talk from the wannabe Sultan throwing red meat to his Islamist voters that have kept him in power.

 

[Falcos_Commisar]

More fun out of NYC. (a)
Looks like jews losing the hahal kabab support.
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(((Journalists))) still obsessed with the 6 million headless babies meme
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Those barely literate goat fuckers need to be deported back to whatever shit hole slum they're from.

Also it's true, like most Muslims, American Muslims are raised on a steady diet of Jew and Kuffar hatred from a young age. The "liberal" Muslims or the uppity Hijabis are the absolute worst, living it up like westerns but then coming around and fellating jihad killers.

Most of y'all Kiwis don't understand, many/most Muslims are taught that they deserve the entire planet and they kuffar are beneath them, fit only to serve or maybe convert.

 

[Instant_Pot_User]

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oy vey! (a)

I fucking hate Erdoğan and the Turkish government. Good fucking luck, o watermelon salesman, stop being such a faggot and put on the sultan's turban. Play that mehter as you try to save Gaza, fucking κίναιδος.

 

[ViM]

Does anyone think both sides are exaggerating about last night? Hamas is like "We fought them off like powerful men" and israel is like "We raided them oh boy howdy just according to plan minus a few of us"

I wonder if israel got a bit in, and palestine got a bit out, met up at an unexpected place,

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wcKTbFbwrxE,

And both sides went OH SHIT OH SHIT THIS IS REAL and retreated lol.

Idk I'm sure it's just because of the internet blockade and blah blah but it's funny we don't have tons of footage of last night's stuff from all over. People don't have a lot of power or internet but they have some and a huge moral boost to get footage of them chasing off the israelis. And it's good propaganda to show a perfect dine and dash raid too if israel has THAT footage.

I may have to recind my night vision chads prediction to "slapfight in the desert" if one side or the other doesn't show what they actually did last night

It isn't a mystery: the IDF dropped more ordinance than ever, they rolled in, got shot at, shat themselves and rolled right back out. How do I know this?

Because literally fucking every battle that they fought in 2006 against Hezbollah went exactly like that. A few dozen to a few hundred Hezbollah fighters would go up against thousands of Israeli troops with tanks, artillery and air support and every time the IDF took casualties they'd run away. They couldn't even overcome the literal suicide fighters who were only there to delay the Israeli advance.
Bint Jbeil:

Israel sent the elite of its regular forces, the Golani infantry brigade and the Paratroopers brigade to Bint Jbeil. The IDF enjoyed a tremendous superiority both in numbers and firepower as well as absolute air superiority. The over 5,000 IDF soldiers laying a siege around the town were faced by little more than 100 Hezbollah soldiers. The IDF failed to conquer the town or to make any other tangible operational achievements. According to Kober the Israeli withdrawal was "correctly interpreted by Hizballah as a great victory for the organization".

The Israeli army's failure in the war in general and especially its inability to conquer Bint Jbeil generated bitterness in Israel. The war had not ended before the recriminations inside the IDF Command started flying. The commander of the 7th Brigade, Col. Amnon Eshel was caught by a TV camera saying that his superior officer Brig. Gen. Gal Hirsch "does not understand what is going on on the battlefield", a statement that probably ended his military career. Hirsch shot back, accusing Eshel of never once entering Lebanon himself, only watching the war from his "plasma screen" in his HQ in Israel.

Ayta ash-Sha'b:

The initial phase of the battle consisted of two and a half weeks of intense bombardment by air and artillery, followed by more than two weeks of intensive fighting in and around the town. The IDF deployed five brigades against an Hizbullah force consisting of little more than half a company. Still the IDF failed to capture the town and suffered relatively heavy casualties in the process.

The Israeli army never occupied Ayta ash-Sha'b. According to Harel and Issacharoff, the town became "a symbol of Israel's performance in the war, the village where it all began, where the IDF thrashed about for four weeks and never succeeded in taking." Exum described Hizbullah's "tenacity" in the defense of the border villages as "the biggest surprise of the war" and the performance of the village units as "exceptional".

The Carmeli Brigade pulled a battalion out of the town, after one of its soldiers was killed, in what was described as a "tactical retreat". The performance of the Carmeli Brigade was afterwards singled out (together with another unit, the 366th Division) for particular harsh criticism. It displayed a "lack of determination, an unnecessary retreat and a misunderstanding of the bigger picture. Much of the blame was placed on the top brass, but the [two] brigades were left thoroughly shaken by the war." After the war a committee, headed by Col. (res) Yoram Yair, sharply criticized the conduct of 91st Division during the war, including the battle of Ayta ash-Sha'b. The battle was called "the black hole of the war".

Operation Change of Direction 11:

It involved a tripling of Israeli forces inside Lebanon and aimed at encircling Hizbullah forces in south Lebanon. The plan was to advance westwards along the Litani River from the Galilee Panhandle, combined with helicopter landings behind enemy lines, intended to be the largest in IDF history, and simultaneous advances northwards in the central sector and along the Mediterranean coast. The plan was to follow up the offensive by several weeks of mopping-up operations in the surrounded territories, eliminating Hizbullah infrastructure, especially in the launching areas of Katyusha rockets.

The offensive was called off halfway due to heavy casualties and the implementation of the UN ceasefire. At least 33 Israeli officers and soldiers were killed and over 400 were wounded, an Israeli Air Force (IAF) helicopter was shot down and scores of Israeli tanks were damaged. The IDF never reached the Litani river and failed to surround Hizbullah forces in South Lebanon. Instead the Israeli government on August 13, accepted a ceasefire in accordance with UN Security Council Resolution 1701.

The IDF has a world class airforce (courtesy of Uncle Sam) and an "army" that specializes in shooting retards with slings and demolishing the businesses of Palestinian shitposters with bulldozers. But when it comes to storming the positions of anyone that can shoot back, well...

 

[DumbDude43]

I fucking hate Erdoğan and the Turkish government. Good fucking luck, o watermelon salesman, stop being such a faggot and put on the sultan's turban. Play that mehter as you try to save Gaza, fucking κίναιδος.

it's all just for show
of all the powers in the region, i think turkey is one of the least likely to try and attack israel

 

[Jump]

it's all just for show
of all the powers in the region, i think turkey is one of the least likely to try and attack israel

Yes but if he gets his roaches all worked up in a frenzy who knows what could happen.
What makes the Turkey situation entertaining is that Turkey is in NATO. NATO has a large base with nukes and lots of man power stationed there.

 

[make_it_so]

Yes but if he gets his roaches all worked up in a frenzy who knows what could happen.
What makes the Turkey situation entertaining is that Turkey is in NATO. NATO has a large base with nukes and lots of man power stationed there.

NATO is not going to go to war with Israel just because Erdogan wants to keep his support base up.

And if dumb shenanigans do get afoot, there's no way the US nukes stationed in Turkey are going to be permitted to be operated by or fall in to the hands of Turkey - US personal control the arming keys, after all.

 

[Glerd]

The IDF has a world class airforce (courtesy of Uncle Sam) and an "army" that specializes in shooting retards with slings and demolishing the businesses of Palestinian shitposters with bulldozers. But when it comes to storming the positions of anyone that can shoot back, well...

I'm going to laugh my ass off if Israel is like Russia and has been psyopping us the last decade about how powerful their military are and then it turns out they're basically just the imperial guard lol

 

[IamnottheNSA]

Does anyone think both sides are exaggerating about last night? Hamas is like "We fought them off like powerful men" and israel is like "We raided them oh boy howdy just according to plan minus a few of us"

Now how about that special military operation comparison, huh. It even got to the point where both sides' versions of the same events are vastly different from one another (and almost incompatible with each other).

 

[Jump]

And if dumb shenanigans do get afoot, there's no way the US nukes stationed in Turkey are going to be permitted to be operated by or fall in to the hands of Turkey - US personal control the arming keys, after all.

I never said they could get the nukes. But it would be funny if the turkroaches rise up and NATO has to pull out of there just because of their Greatest Ally's ancient retard war. Thats a very strategic base and Turkey has the biggest standing NATO army behind the USA. Also things are going to get very sticky if Iran enters the game fully. Will the turkroach citizens be ok with the USA staging strikes from Turkey to hit Iran in defense of israel? I guess we will just have to wait and see.