Russian Special Military Operation in the Ukraine - Mark IV: The Partitioning of Discussion

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If this town didn't matter then I don't think Ukraine would be dumping 30k men in to whats clearly another Bakhmut Artemivsk killbox situation where they bet a ton of blood, equipment, and political capital on a lost cause.
Two or three more of these losses and we may see a complete breakdown of Ukranian forces across the field....and Russia just rolls over to Kiev like conquering romans....

Russia still hasn't deployed their reserves from last year and this year's draft....and the summer victories have only increased average Russian men to volunteer for this war...Russian recruitment centres have seen large upsurge in volunteers and prisoner population decreased almost half...

And these volunteer forces have yet to hit the field...

Russia may field almost half a million men by next year....

....fuck.
 
Honestly, this isn't Kursk, or a battle of Hannibal. The technology is just too different.

This is Bakhmut. This will end like Bakhmut.

Drones are changing things. They can menace tanks and absolutely devastate infantry. Also the best spotters for artillery.

This may change in the future with drone hunter drones or flak vehicles that can detect them in the future.

The drones also help the more artillery force, Da OrkZ, in this one.

Maybe it costs the Russians, but they haven't even fully mobilised yet, and got greater reserves ready to deploy.

I also don't think the US support will be in any danger unless Israel is totally cornered and China finally gets off the toilet and shits on Taiwan.

Z man's death would just damage coke stonks. If he was that big a threat, the Kommandorks would have slipped something in his tea already.

It isn't a video game or isekai where you kill the leader and their state instantly goes belly up.
 
Z man's death would just damage coke stonks. If he was that big a threat, the Kommandorks would have slipped something in his tea already.

It isn't a video game or isekai where you kill the leader and their state instantly goes belly up.
I've said before, and I'll say again: I believe the biggest reason the Russians haven't had Zalinsky assassinated is because they don't want to risk someone who's actually competent taking over.
Meanwhile, the reason NATO hasn't replaced him is because they've invested far too much time and money into turning him into a Marvel-tier superhero figure, and replacing him would (further) break their mythos surrounding him. He's their Main Character Superhero and Putin is the Ultimate Super Villain Character, and since they want to run this war like a movie production, they can't "recast" the Main Character Superhero.
 
Honestly, this isn't Kursk, or a battle of Hannibal.
Volodentius Seleneus Servius probably won’t have the legions to mount a proper defence when the more than a hundred legions Vladentinian Augustus Optimus Maximus commands bridge the borysthenes and rout what few Teutonic mercenaries haven’t already left for Judea. His own legions are exhausted and probably eager to desert at this point, no matter how many sesterces the Transthalassian Empire sends him.
 
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A 10:1 overall rate seems very unlikely. But for certain Ukrainian units engaged in the 2023 offensive, its vaguely possible. I've heard several times that Ukrainian units were only pulled out of offensive operations when they had sustained something like 75% casualties and that many units did reach that level of losses. By a certain point in September, Ukraine seemed to have completely exhausted its high quality offensive forces.

Who the hell knows really. Except as I stated here before months ago. Ukraine mobilized a million something men at the start of the war. Doesn't seem that much of that mobilzed force is guarding the borders. So what happend to them and why the need to mobilize so many more times that i think most people lost the track throughout the war ? unless the attrition is that bloody high.

Or it could be ofcourse that the million man mobilization was exagerated for propoganda.

We do know however that they need more cemeteries and have been burying bodies on top of eachother and fuck load of MIA have been reported which arent likely MIA's.

All in all, it looks like the numbers will be pretty high. Might and i'm with you on this ... not be the ratio of 10:1 but high non the less.

Russian losses are curiosity itself. Not just men but material itself. It's quite clear that Tank loses are grade A horseshit. And i'm also wondering just on what budget they are waging this war on. it seems to be not on much as it with the "sactions from hell" hasn't really done Russian economy over like the west expected.
 
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Who the hell knows really. Except as I stated here before months ago. Ukraine mobilized a million something men at the start of the war. Doesn't seem that much of that mobilzed force is guarding the borders. So what happend to them and why the need to mobilize so many more times that i think most people lost the track throughout the war ? unless the attrition is that bloody high.

Or it could be ofcourse that the million man mobilization was exagerated for propoganda.

We do know however that they need more cemeteries and have been burying bodies on top of eachother and fuck load of MIA have been reported which arent likely MIA's.

All in all, it looks like the numbers will be pretty high. Might and i'm with you on this ... not be the ratio of 10:1 but high non the less.

Russian losses are curiosity itself. Not just men but material itself. It's quite clear that Tank loses are grade A horseshit. And i'm also wondering just on what budget they are waging this war on. it seems to be not on much as it with the "sactions from hell" hasn't really done Russian economy over like the west expected.
Russia is a productive economy, by which I mean they make a living out of producing actual stuff. In that they are similar to China and Germany. In comparison the UK, and to a lesser extent the US, are rentier economies, they make a living from services and usury.

The number 1 break to Russia's economic development has been massive capital outflows to the west. Even with Putin putting the oligarchs and Mafiosi in a box we're talking tens of billions in capital being transferred out every year, which equates to a severe lack of investment and a massive anchor on productivity. T

Effective capital controls are all but impossible without the active cooperation of the recipient country, and what country is going to say no to free money? Even China, with it's draconian rules on money transfers hasn't stopped trillions being funneled out of their economy. So Russia is something of a unique case. On the one hand they are the world's largest miner of hydrocarbons and various other commodities that are effectively impossible to sanction given how essential they are and on the other they now have the active and rigorous cooperation from their trading partners in preventing money circulating back to them. After a short lived dip all the western sanctions have achieved is a massive investment boom inside Russia.
 
You gotta do something! How else will you demonstrate to the rest of the world your disapproval for Putin and his regime?
I still don't see how it's necessary in the first place. Russia has only invaded Ukraine - a shit hole country that nobody liked until they got invaded - because NATO kept using Ukraine to fuck with Russia. Based on how the world looks like to Russia, I really doubt that they think that aiming for world domination is a particularly bright idea, and would rather just be left alone. The only reason US and NATO even bother meddling in the affairs of other countries is to break them and rape them and suck them dry.
 
I still don't see how it's necessary in the first place.
In the mind of the NATO supporter it's necessary because if the world doesn't show their disapproval then it will bolster other countries to attempt similar things.

Speaking of which it's weird how Azerbaijan just invaded and took territory from Armenia and nobody around the world gave a single shit though.

In reality they do it because it makes the right people money, and because it keeps the proles (shitty 3rd world nations) aware of NATOs power and afraid of the cock of US imperialism.
 
I still don't see how it's necessary in the first place. Russia has only invaded Ukraine - a shit hole country that nobody liked until they got invaded - because NATO kept using Ukraine to fuck with Russia. Based on how the world looks like to Russia, I really doubt that they think that aiming for world domination is a particularly bright idea, and would rather just be left alone. The only reason US and NATO even bother meddling in the affairs of other countries is to break them and rape them and suck them dry.
West only knows a service economy. Nothing much is produced, much is imported. So obviously, if you sanction them, they cant sustain it. But no one thought about where do western nations import their stuff from in the first place, and does it make sense to stop the imports at all.
 
When calls into question the whole point of the sancions, as it literally benefits Russia and hurts other countries.

The American political elite has had this theory going back to the early-mid 2000s that just a little more economic pressure will cause the Russian economy to collapse. They really expected it to happen at one point due to low oil prices. But it didn't. This was supposed to be maximum pressure this time and it still didn't work.
Western perceptions and police on Russia is less driven by objective reality than it is by wishful thinking and the politics views of a bunch of rich influential Russian exiles living in the London area.
 
When calls into question the whole point of the sancions, as it literally benefits Russia and hurts other countries.
That was the whole idea—keep the Russians out, the Germans down. The US cut off Germany's and, by extension, Europe's energetic partnership from Russia's energy and resource base and now force the moronic Euros to buy LNG for primium, while politicians feel the moral superiority the industry is on fire.

Have you not noticed how the US has not imposed sanctions on most resources and fertilizer in particular?
 
Western perceptions and police on Russia is less driven by objective reality than it is by wishful thinking and the politics views of a bunch of rich influential Russian exiles living in the London area
Well that's not suspicious. With how badly the sanctions have gone, either the exiles are really really stupid, or they are Russian spies that tell NATO bullshit so they do things that actually help Russia in the end.
 
Well that's not suspicious. With how badly the sanctions have gone, either the exiles are really really stupid, or they are Russian spies that tell NATO bullshit so they do things that actually help Russia in the end.
Third option, these people are all megalomaniacal retards who think they're the smartest people in any room they're currently occupying. Getting told what they want to hear is the entire purpose of any and all "experts" in their employ.
 
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