Greer v. Moon, No. 20-cv-00647 (D. Utah Sep. 16, 2020)

[BlastMonk]

Can a legal kiwi explain to me why the court kept accepting requests for more time, just back to back to back acceptance despite there being mistakes and Russ' party submitting their documents minutes before the deadline or afterwards?

 

[Yak-130 Mitten]

It's a law of nature that the more careful you are about drafting something, the more likely it is that there is something completely retarded lurking in plain sight.

But imagune the seethe if grande and taylor entered lesbian relationship. That would be something to behold

 

[AnOminous]

Can a legal kiwi explain to me why the court kept accepting requests for more time, just back to back to back acceptance despite there being mistakes and Russ' party submitting their documents minutes before the deadline or afterwards?

The requests weren't opposed. It is still absolutely ridiculous how the clown excuses ranged from the flu, and suddenly transformed into COVID, etc. It was nonsensical. These clowns dragged out the whole appellate process by at least a year just by claiming to be too incompetent and ill to keep up with a briefing schedule.

And now the case goes back to the trial court for more bullshit, thanks to two Obama appointees and a Biden appointee being too incompetent to do their jobs. Being the idiots we are, we happened to draw these as the Tenth Circuit judge panel, and they of course decided that since Kiwi Farms bad, pro se pleadings by lunatics that completely failed to state a cause of action should be interpreted and the court should magically re-write the pro se complaint for his benefit.

 

[TheClappening]

I think this is the first John Goodman OP I've read. Nicely done.

 

[Fastest Hand In The East]

TGD (Total Greer (court) Disposition)

 

[AnOminous]

I think this is the first John Goodman OP I've read. Nicely done.

@Useful_Mistake did the procedural parts, largely because I was very slowly doing the other parts.

 

[Useful_Mistake]

Can a legal kiwi explain to me why the court kept accepting requests for more time

Because Null's lawyer didn't oppose it and it would be in furtherance of judicial economy. Now the post hoc request is a different matter entirely, and I can't say much about it, because fuck if I know.

And now the case goes back to the trial court for more bullshit, thanks to two Obama appointees and a Biden appointee being too incompetent to do their jobs

What's weird about that is that in the hearing they seemed more or less reasonable; even the Soviet Judge remarked that while they understood Russ' hurt feelings, SCOTUS had foreclosed on their theory of liability. Evidently, they no longer think so.

 

[AnOminous]

What's weird about that is that in the hearing they seemed more or less reasonable; even the Soviet Judge remarked that while they understood Russ' hurt feelings, SCOTUS had foreclosed on their theory of liability. Evidently, they no longer think so.

I hate to get too tinfoil but it's almost like something happened.

 

[Smar Mijou]

I hate to get too tinfoil but it's almost like something happened.

If I were to hazard a guess, the judges probably read a few too many pieces of "Da EEEBIL KIWIFARMS GUILTY OF 6 GORILLION BYUUICIDES!!!" propaganda and went full-on activist mode. Even with the traditionally more lenient pro-se cases, the multiple egregious errors and delays would, in a sane society, be easy grounds for dismissal of his lol-suit by the court for failure to prosecute of plaintiff. Or a particularly skilled lawyer for Null could argue procedural misconduct by plaintiff and file motion for dismissal on those grounds. But then you risk further extending this joke of a lol-suit out even more.

 

[Useful_Mistake]

Null filed a request to have the entire 10th circuit to rehear his case

It's 49 pages (23 of which are the motion, the rest is the court opinion as an attachment)

Spoiler: Images

 

[trash cat]

EDIT: As a non-practicing non-lawyer, I think this is a great petition. Very clear and easy to understand. I hope they grant the en banc hearing.

Honestly their complete misunderstanding of Google Drive reminds me of this video

 

[Piggle Rick]

Holy shit. [I am not into] IANAL but this reads really well. Interested to hear what the legal types on here think!

 

[TyrasGuard]

It's 49 pages (23 of which are the motion, the rest is the court opinion as an attachment)

Is the header of the page correct? It looks like someone wrote over it plenty of times, happens in many pages.

Other than that, it's as straightforward as it gets. Makes you wonder what kind of voodoo they pulled in the first appeal to even get here.

 

[Piggle Rick]

Is the header of the page correct? It looks like someone wrote over it plenty of times, happens in many pages.

Other than that, it's as straightforward as it gets. Makes you wonder what kind of voodoo they pulled in the first appeal to even get here.

The header seems to be showing up okay for me, what am I missing?

 

[Useful_Mistake]

It looks like someone wrote over it plenty of times, happens in many pages.

Yes, that would be the system. You will notice it starts at page 25, wherein the previous appellate order was included. Downloading such orders comes with headers, and when the document is summited to the court system, the new headers would (in places) write on top of the old ones.

Interested to hear what the legal types on here think!

It could have used more commas to make their sentences easier to read. There were a couple of ones I had to reread multiple times. There was also one sentence with a spelling error. Otherwise, I think they should have mentioned retroactivity of the court's argument in reaching their opinion (though, I suppose that is what they were going for (in different words) with the ipso facto bit. That aside, it's very dry, but seemingly well made.

Interestingly, the document bears mark of COUNSEL PRESS INC, which suggests Hardin had help. Or, given that they also specialize in paper filings, it's could be there for the paper to comply with all relevant rules.

The header seems to be showing up okay for me, what am I missing?

 

[Piggle Rick]

Yes, that would be the system. You will notice it starts at page 25, wherein the previous appellate order was included. Downloading such orders comes with headers, and when the document is summited to the court system, the new headers would (in places) write on top of the old ones.

It could have used more commas to make their sentences easier to read. There were a couple of ones I had to reread multiple times. There was also one sentence with a spelling error. Otherwise, I think they should have mentioned retroactivity of the court's argument in reaching their opinion (though, I suppose that is what they were going for (in different words) with the ipso facto bit. That aside, it's very dry, but seemingly well made.

Interestingly, the document bears mark of COUNSEL PRESS INC, which suggests Hardin had help.

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Ahhh, I stopped reading at the end of the motion b/c already read the attachments when they were issued.

Petty quibble but am I the only one who didn’t like the use of “non-sensical”? I always thought it was one word, “nonsensical”. Maybe I’m wrong though, and obviously it’s not a big deal either way.

Thought it read pretty well otherwise. Would be interested to know who else Hardin had help from. It’d be great if Null had some big guns on this. Greer needs to be shut down with his time-wasting tactics.

 

[Useful_Mistake]

Would be interested to know who else Hardin had help from. It’d be great if Null had some big guns on this

Interestingly, Skordas' name does not appear on the filing.

 

[The Cheese Aisle]

Hello to the paralegals who will have to read through these threads! You're one of us now!

 

[Null]

Interestingly, Skordas' name does not appear on the filing.

Interesting is a nice word for it.

 

[Mango Cobra]

Interesting is a nice word for it.

I'm guessing you and Skordas had a falling out / he no longer wished to represent you?