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DiseasedSanctioned Suicide - "Kill yourself" but unironically with sodium nitrite. Higher death count than the Farms. Targeted by parents, legislators, and journalists looking to alter Section 230.
If someone is of sound mind and wants to end their life due to crippling pain/illness who is anyone to stop them and condemn them to more suffering?
How would that be moral at all?
Argue with the Wyoming secretary of state that you are not you if you want, although I don't think they would like that, given you legally signed it. That was your decision, not the medias, not moms of dead people from the suicide site, not anyone elses. you keep claiming ownership, even this year in the annual report.
There's nothing shady about registering a business in Wyoming. Wyoming has favorable conditions for small businesses (no corporate or income taxes) and if the business doesn't require a physical presence in a certain state,
Wyoming is the perfect place to start a business due to them having a favorable environment for online businesses to thrive.
Thinking that having a business in Wyoming is shady just shows us that you never had to deal with setting up a business or maintaining one.
Argue with the Wyoming secretary of state that you are not you if you want, although I don't think they would like that, given you legally signed it. That was your decision, not the medias, not moms of dead people from the suicide site, not anyone elses. you keep claiming ownership, even this year in the annual report.
Lamarcus already voluntarily and publicly doxxed himself in multiple business records in 2022 and 2023 tied explicitly to his SS domain name during those years, and years after he claimed to leave. So they didn't doxx his ownership or name. They shouldn't be harassing him though if they are.
I never wish for people to kill themselves but holy shit this person is so fucking toxic. I truly cant begin to imagine the amount of people she's pushed over the edge. View attachment 5398679
Y'know I've seen some shit in my day but someone larping about being suicidal and depressed and posting "venting" threads 25 times a day seems to me they either have no balls to really do it or get off to doomposting and nudging people lightly with constant posts talking about how shit being alive is to goad folks to the point of no return, to me I feel it's the latter.
She found a way to nudge people off the cliff while keeping the excuse that they were only venting about it and its not their fault.
The patterns in the postings show me they have pretty evil intent.
Why are they not perma'd?
What if the BBC is only involved because this particular incel-to-suicide pipeline skips the step of funneling tax dollars from public healthcare funds to private pharmaceutical corporations in the name of life saving gender affirming care?
When you own a website you have to provide continual updates about ownership to retain a domain. That is called a DNS record of ownership. Each year, the business Lamarcus owns, which is under his full name, was continually put as the registrant. Even if it was automatically renewed, if Lamarcus cared about not being the owner, he would have changed it or asked the new owner to change it. But he didn't because he likes the attention.
"DNS record of ownership"? Nigga, you don't have a fucking clue what you are talking about. That isn't even a valid term. The only DNS related thing you are going to find in a WHOIS record is the DNS server the domain is delegated to, and unless you set a TXT record with your dox in it the DNS isn't going to tell who owns the domain. You're talking about WHOIS records, which according to the rules should contain valid contact information, but I have news for you, for most of the domains they are set to some anonymizing service or just to bullshit by the domain owner.
The WHOIS info only changes if you change it at your registry, the billing info by your domain registrar isn't used for it. It does not update when you renew a domain. It's also super common to transfer ownership of domain names and not to update the WHOIS ownership information at the domain registry, especially if you transfer it internally at a registrar. I've been in the internet business since the early days, and there are more times I forgot to change the WHOIS then when I actually took the time to change the WHOIS, because everyone expects that shit to be out of date. The only times I did change the WHOIS information after transfering domains is when ICANN randomly selected one of my domains for WHOIS record validation and my registry asked me to update the WHOIS records.
Tl;dr: you are a dumb nigger, please stop acting like you understand how any of this works.
I am joining in the thread because i am interested in the SS thread and i have been lurking. I moderate the chatroom of SS. (website not telegram) I can verify on my @LulzacruelSaSu shitter account. This thread has been interesting and i feel like i can comment on some things.
I apologize if my comments seem bad at grammar, I both speak mama mia language (but have spent time in english-speaking countryand i am trying to avoid stylometry. In a way, I am trying to be understandable enough but not enough that i create a text fingerprint
Argue with the Wyoming secretary of state that you are not you if you want, although I don't think they would like that, given you legally signed it. That was your decision, not the medias, not moms of dead people from the suicide site, not anyone elses. you keep claiming ownership, even this year in the annual report.
What i can add that is new is that i am confident that RAS is NOT Lamarcus from my experience speaking with RAS, the way Lamarcus would have to do it to trick people and with JGAAP, a program that was used to identify J.K Rowling as the writer of The Cuckoo's Calling
TL;DR: RAS and Lamarcus are not the same by using basic logic and JGAAP
Text for proof is spoiler because otherwise this post would be large and skip if you are not an idiot and already know. I apologize for any power-leveling, the spoiler is meant for nerd:
The RAS account had activity before switch. If the RAS account was taken from owner by Lamarcus, the owner would probably fight and make this fact public. No owner has come out yet
JGAAP is reason why i am scared of stylometry. Effective and easy for anyone to use
I put 15 large text from RAS on SS and here and got 10 text from Lamarcus here and some posts on incels.is and SS. I then used control post from FC, two users and 12 posts from mod i will not name for privacy
I took First used word in paragraph, Parts of Speech n-gram frequency, rare words, and word frequency analysis with Markov Chain.
I thought that it would be hard for Lamarcus to hide if he already knew about stylometry and was trying to prevent it
I gave the program posts from RAS and Lamarcus that it never saw before. I took the raw scores, added them up per post (you will understand later) and correlated them.
The result? RAS and Lamarcus are NOT the same person. The program correctly guessed which posts were Rain and Lamarcus 100% of the time by seeing the person with the highest score. The p-value for this is .00001, meaning that is the chance this happened totally randomly.
Remember the numbers i added up in the past? I added them to a correlation calculator, and there was actually a negative correlation between the two scores added up (meaning that the RAS and Lamarcus scores were far from eachother on a graph)
correlation was -0.53-ish with controls. p-value at .11-ish though.
For my view, looking at the graph RAS's scores on posts grouped little corner and Lamarcus in it is own corner to the right while the singular controls were everywhere, and the mod with more than one post dominated a little section of the graph.
I went further, by adding up all the scores from RAS Lamarcus and controls and putting them through a confidence interval (95% for the people who are curious) calculator. For the kiwis here, CI is the measurement of «if i ran this many times, 95% of the tests would fall under this margin of error.»
The margin of error for the mean of test was 911 points (in before «9/11»)
To say this was significant is not very correct. This is very certain that they are both different people.
I have no screenshots, but it is really easy to recreate based on what i already said. Take posts from the 2 and controls, and do what i did.
Y'know I've seen some shit in my day but someone larping about being suicidal and depressed and posting "venting" threads 25 times a day seems to me they either have no balls to really do it or get off to doomposting and nudging people lightly with constant posts talking about how shit being alive is to goad folks to the point of no return, to me I feel it's the latter.
She found a way to nudge people off the cliff while keeping the excuse that they were only venting about it and its not their fault.
The patterns in the postings show me they have pretty evil intent.
Why are they not perma'd?
What I can say is that FC does not have a huge impact on the forum as it might seem to you. Only few comment on the posts from newbies who do not know her history and people who agree with her opinion. Everyone else moves on with their day.
Last time i saw a FC thread that was active, it turned into a fight about how «annoying» FC was. Someone said «Yes, we know, we know, we know. Oh, and i forgot, we know.» She then complained about the people hating on her and how they need to get off the site and how the site is infested with pro-lifers, to which a mod said to my memory «You are free to leave SS when you please. Nobody is forcing you to be here. We will not kick users because you do not like what they have to say.»
The thread got locked if i remember correctly adn that was the only two times i ever saw a locked post on SS.
I can not speak for mods but i think realize that things get fucked when you talk about FC. That is why she is so protected. To prevent people from calling each other names and up to trolling and racism. I do this too. I notice that people become VERY MAD when she is mentioned in chat. I try stop it because i remember how crazy locked thread was. Since FC discussion was prohibited chat and forums are peaceful. i think other mods think this
I do not know why mods are silent on the forum in general. I am probably the first mod apart from RAS that has joined the KF thread that become unofficial newsfeed for SS. I think it is because they are scared of losing mod if they say something wrong. Even RAS dodged the FC questions. I am not very scared here though, if RAS really has a problem with my mostly neutral opinion, Rain can just ask me to take it down.
I think FC has the right to be here. A lot of farmers think she trolls or getting off to to hurting others, but nobody has proved it and this site knows about being slandered for obvious reasons so why would we slander a user like how TantaShit did to us? As far as we know, she is a woman with severe tinnitus that hates it everyday that has a reason to stay. We assume good faith. If someone were to give us prove that she is in the wrong, she would be banned like every other user who does bad. I have spoken to her and seen her posts and she seems depressed and disabled but friendly if you are not mean to her. Most people on the forum just do not care. They do not even hate her, they just really do not care about the FC drama. The people who DO are the ones that are very loud and annoying, so we tell them to goto another topic.
That is the truth. Mods are NOT protecting her for being girl (most of the mods are not straight anyways), NOT protecting her for being famous as cake123 or bring in donations like some morons claim, she is protected because we protect users in general. We protect most speech, probably only 4th or 3rd to KF which allows slurs and doxxing.
I'll answer questions and shit tomorrow for the american farmers (10 pm min CEST)
To the people at the back and as a reminder, all of my opinions do not reflect other mods ideas. These opinions are mine.
What I can say is that FC does not have a huge impact on the forum as it might seem to you. Only few comment on the posts from newbies who do not know her history and people who agree with her opinion. Everyone else moves on with their day.
Last time i saw a FC thread that was active, it turned into a fight about how «annoying» FC was. Someone said «Yes, we know, we know, we know. Oh, and i forgot, we know.» She then complained about the people hating on her and how they need to get off the site and how the site is infested with pro-lifers, to which a mod said to my memory «You are free to leave SS when you please. Nobody is forcing you to be here. We will not kick users because you do not like what they have to say.»
If true, then this is good - FC was one of my main gripes with your forum (based off of the complaints from SaSu users that joined here to talk about them), so if it's being dealt with adequately then good job. I hope you aren't lying.
The framing in this headline really irks me - they're implying that the forum had a hand in all 50 deaths, but would it not logically follow that a forum for the discussion of depression and suicide would simply statistically have a higher number of users who kill themselves than other sites? Y'know, correlation instead of causation?
It's the same issue that the media has when covering the Farms - their reasoning for saying that we "drove three people to suicide" is that we just had threads on the three people before they died (discounting Byuu, who's still alive), but would it not also logically follow that on a forum for discussing and mocking the actions of the mentally ill, that a couple of the people that we take notice of would be mentally ill enough to want to end their lives, regardless of the Farms keeping tabs on them or not?
This is why I still don't buy that SaSu is as much of a danger as the anti-SaSu people make it out to be, if it's even a danger at all. I've yet to see any of these personally/emotionally-invested people calling for the site's deplatforming consider the sequence of events their suicidal loved one would have likely taken had SaSu not existed, that sequence being they'd just find any info that they were after somewhere else (like on Wikipedia) or find people to talk about their suicidal thoughts with somewhere else (like Discord or Telegram). They just don't get how anything works.
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