Debate user 'Null' if America has Cheese, Meat, and Bread.

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I dont think americans can realize that driving 10 minutes to a super market to get bread is a normal thing. It isn't. The closeness to a bakery is a must and sonething that affects even the rent price. I can walk to 3 different bakeries in less than 10 minutes from my home and precious home to 2. I wouldn't say the same for butchery, but most supermarkets have their own to serve the client. (Not frozen meat, but the ones where you ask the butcher to do x cut or y amount)

Even the industrial packaged bread that can last 3 days isn't very consumed next to the most normal type of bread here.

Also sweet cream bread with coconuts are god tier.

 

[888Flux]

I dont think americans can realize that driving 10 minutes to a super market to get bread is a normal thing. It isn't. The closeness to a bakery is a must and sonething that affects even the rent price. I can walk to 3 different bakeries in less than 10 minutes from my home and precious home to 2. I wouldn't say the same for butchery, but most supermarkets have their own to serve the client. (Not frozen meat, but the ones where you ask the butcher to do x cut or y amount)

i don't care

 

[Anti Snigger]

I dont think americans can realize that driving 10 minutes to a super market to get bread is a normal thing. It isn't. The closeness to a bakery is a must and sonething that affects even the rent price. I can walk to 3 different bakeries in less than 10 minutes from my home and precious home to 2. I wouldn't say the same for butchery, but most supermarkets have their own to serve the client. (Not frozen meat, but the ones where you ask the butcher to do x cut or y amount)

Even the industrial packaged bread that can last 3 days isn't very consumed next to the most normal type of bread here.

Also sweet cream bread with coconuts are god tier.
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Are you seriously trying to say that there's somehow a material difference between walking 10 minutes to buy bread and driving for 10 minutes?

 

[Alabama Gamer]

Proposal: if at least 100 people provide photographs proving him wrong, @Null has to change the site name to "Cheesy Farms" for a week.

 

[Harbinger of Kali Yuga]

Spain and the Mediterranean are pretty much the only exceptions. Spain was definitely the highlight of my time.

Eastern Europe as a whole is surprisingly good throughout the region, Romanian Scrumbie de Dunăre afumată (I have to google these online, I do not know how they are spelled) is great. Actually Slavic food in general is vastly underrated.

I hate to say it, but the French have REALLY good food, but like all things with the French, it's pretentious and a still bit overrated.

 

[Scotched up Scott]

“the bread sucks here except for the bread thats actually good BUT I DONT WANNA BUYYYY ITTTT”
kys faggot the answer to your problem is in front of your fat mouth and you refuse to eat it.

Except the fact is that the bakery’s can’t offer much in terms of selection because they are already struggling due to the shit bread being all anyone buys. Quit being a retard.

 

[Android raptor]

I was going to bring up that Publix has actual shit, and is based in Florida, but I felt my post was already too verbose.

My dad called Publix "overpriced yuppie bullshit".

 

[LiquidKid]

I’ll give a few pictures and descriptions of what delis are like in my area,
But keep in mind that Null did clearly state “unless you’re in California.” And I do happen to be in California.
That said, my city’s population is 35k, I am over an hour away from Los Angeles, and I’m literally surrounded by farms on all sides(I actually buy my berries fresh from the local berry farm.)

With the preface done, there are a few different options when it comes to buying groceries, all of which are a more than 10 minute drive from my home, because again, farmland. My town does not have a Walmart, Whole Foods, or Costco. And our local Target only has a small selection of food to the point that there was no reason going there for this.

Spoiler: Safeway/Vons

The first store on my list is Safeway/Vons. This store is often considered the better of the two grocers in town, but I have been to cities where Vons was the worst, so it really depends on your location.
I will begin by showing the American cheese aisle. It's your standard trash that was complained about in the MATI episode.







List of cheeses in the American Section:

• Ghost Pepper
• Medium Cheddar
• Sharp Cheddar
• Smoked Cheddar
• White Cheddar
• Medium White Cheddar
• Double Cheddar
• Provolone
• Baby Swiss
• Colby Jack
• Havarti
• Mozzarella
• Kraft Singles
• Pepper Jack

The rest is all either shredded or other brands of the same flavors.
But now let's leave the plastic aisle and go into the bakery/deli.

Upon entry to the bakery section, you see their assortment of freshly bake breads. If you come in early enough you can even smell the bread being made. Keep in mind this is from the early afternoon, so not the morning bread.







We will also take a brief look at the fresh cuts of meats. There is of course a wider meat section just to the side, but this is the counter where you order directly.



But now for the main event, the cheeses in the deli section. Here you'll find both a counter where you get fresh slices and an island of packaged cheeses.

Counter:




Types of cheese at the counter:

• American Cheese
• White American Cheese
• Provolone
• Medium Cheddar
• Havarti
• Pepper Jack
• AAlsbruk Smoked Gouda
• Mozzarella
• Lacey Swiss
• Roasted Garlic NY State Cheddar Cheese
• Baby Swiss
• Muenster
• Danish Havarti
• Swiss

Now we come to the island of cheese:















Flavors of cheese in the island(excluding Redundant flavors):

• Buffalo Wing
• Irish cheddar
• Peppadew
• Full cream butter cheese
• Gouda
• Edam
• Pepperjack
• Provolone
• Garlic Jack
• Danish Havarti
• Skellig
• Swiss
• Dubliner
• Mascarpone
• Parmesan
• Mozarella
• Rosemary Asiago
• Merlot
• Blackpepper
• Parmigiano Reggiano
• Fontina
• Romano
• Feta
• Brie

Oh, and here's your goat cheese, Josh. I know you were very concerned.



Look at all this goat cheese

To further illustrate what the area is like, here is the view from my car as I drive from one grocery story to the other



Definitely not a big city by most standards.

Spoiler: Kroger/Ralphs

The second store is Kroger/Ralphs. It's definitely the worse of the two stores. For reference, this was about a 5 minute drive from the other store

We begin with the American cheese aisle, which is smaller and in the very back.





Flavors in the American section:

• Cheddar
• Mild Cheddar
• Sharp Cheddar
• Smoked Cheddar
• Colby Jack
• Mozzarella
• Parmesan
• Swiss
• Baby Swiss
• Pepper Jack
• Havarti
• Gouda

Odd tangent, but the American cheese is directly across from the weeb and jewish food. Why are the weeb and jewish foods paired together? I have no idea.




Next we make our way to the bakery section which has a much sadder selection of bread, even on a good day. Though it probably looks better earlier in the day





The meat counter is also much smaller




Now we come to the deli counter





Nothing special here.

Flavors in the counter:

• Baby Swiss
• Yellow American
• White American
• Provolone
• Colby Jack
• Cheddar
• Gouda
• Horseradish
• Havarti
• Swiss
• Meunster

And last and definitely least, we come to the cheese island, which only has to share space with the sushi and premade sandwiches






Flavors in the island:

• Mozarella
• Manchego
• Romano
• Pontina
• Provolone
• Parmesan
• Burrata
• Mascarpone
• Goat Cheese
• Pepper jack
• Garlic Herb
• Brie
• Feta
• Cheddar
• Bleu Cheese
• Sheep
• Gouda
• Swiss

Even with a smaller selection, there is still a decent variety on top of the million different styles of cheddar.

So there you have it thread, the cheese, bread, and meat offerings of a small city in California. Does this prove anything? Absolutely not.

 

[Jet Fuel Johnny]

Null's right in that the majority of the food in the US is garbage with about a 1/10th of the nutritional value people think it should have.

I get my stuff from the local butcher. Weird thing about my State, the meat and dairy here can be done by the State registery instead of the FDA, but that just means it can't be sold outside of this state. Hell, I can go down and pick the calf out and have it butchered come fall and load up the freezers. I can go down and buy milk or cheese locally. It can be sold in the state, but not outside of the state. (Basically, my state has been telling the FDA to go fuck itself more and more) I buy eggs by the flat and split them up between my wife and I and my 3 daughter's households (It's pretty cheap if you're willing to put up with chickenshit on your boots and the smell while you're standing there talking to the guy and smoking a cigarette) and that lasts for the week. (I checked prices at WalMart, and I pay less for 5 dozen eggs than some people do for a dozen)

Eggs, meat, cheese, milk, honey, fruit, it's all local. I buy from the Farmer's Markets and Farm Fairs when I can.

I found out a few years ago that the honey from China isn't even honey.

When I moved out here, we switched from WalMart shit to local stuff. We were all sick a few days.

Now the meat from WalMart will make our stomach's roll.

Its a little more expensive, but then after eating that way for a while, we don't eat quite as much as we used to. The meals are more filling, I feel better, I don't need as much to eat.

Yeah, I buy mason jars of canned fruit and vegetables from a couple different sources. I'm currently rebuilding my shelves again, but I've got mason jars with the dates they were canned on them. (Holy shit do I love pickled and hot peppered crabapples!!!) I've got a good sized plot for a garden. My wife makes the bread every three or four days.

It's gotten REALLY bad in the last 20 years or so. Water injections in fruit and meat and vegetables, some kind of weird wax on fruit, dye in the meat.

We stopped going out to eat except for a local diner that only sources locally.

 

[Wodanaz]

this thread is filled with some of the funniest shit on the site

 

[AnOminous]

Full and half and quarter and eighth cows don't count since it's your cow you're having butchered. You as the public buy the cow and then have it butchered. (From a legal perspective.)

They put a sticker on it that's different from the one that says it's USDA certified for sale and, at least in theory, you don't sell it to anyone. So long as it's not from a storefront, though, who's going to know?

 

[God's strongest milkman]

Liz Fong-Jones has earned HERself a new soldier today and this thread has taught me that SHE is absolutely right about this website. For shame.

 

[The Voicemail Devil]

Proposal: if at least 100 people provide photographs proving him wrong, @Null has to change the site name to "Cheesy Farms" for a week.

NOOOO, SLICKER CHILD. ENJOY THE FDA

 

[Swamp_Donkey]

they are already struggling due to the shit bread being all anyone buys.

then buy their fucking bread dumbass....

 

[AnOminous]

But can it survive a week without refrigeration?

It's lucky if it survives the day without being eaten even if there's nothing to put on it.

And if it does, great, croutons for my French onion soup.

 

[Scotched up Scott]

then buy their fucking bread dumbass....

Who fucken said I didn’t. Just me buying would barely keep them running much less get enough cash to widen the selection.

 

[Android raptor]

I dont think americans can realize that driving 10 minutes to a super market to get bread is a normal thing. It isn't. The closeness to a bakery is a must and sonething that affects even the rent price. I can walk to 3 different bakeries in less than 10 minutes from my home and precious home to 2. I wouldn't say the same for butchery, but most supermarkets have their own to serve the client. (Not frozen meat, but the ones where you ask the butcher to do x cut or y amount)
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Forced car dependence in the US is also a factor in why food deserts and poor people being unable to access even Walmart-tier groceries are things. When the only thing in walking distance is the gas station and maybe Family Dollar, and you're too poor to afford a car, guess where you end up buying most of your food? Especially when combined with the fact that public transit in the US ranges from shit to completely non-existant even in populated metro areas.

 

[AnOminous]

This is some of the nicer cheeses you can get in Casper Wy.

Send some to Cobes.

 

[Getting Sentimental]

I think after more than 45 pages of Autism I've cracked the code

1) Null hasn't been in the US for a long time,
2)when he was, he was raised by a single mother in a meth shack, meaning that his only dietary choices were goyslop
3)His inability to afford anything above a walmart prevented him from finding the countless grocery stores that offer freshly baked bread, non processed american cheese, and butcher cuts of meat, as well as the dozens of imports from his holy mecca of Europe
4)After fleeing the country, he now, as a low income amerimutt himself, has discovered that in any slavic shithole he flees to, he is basically the richest man in town, and can afford to go to the high end grocery stores there rather than survive on estrogenized frozen meals that pad the normal eurofag diet.
5)He's consumed so much borsch that the liquid ferments his brain at night, leading to a loss of reasoning indistinguishable from typical eurofag seething.

A combination of all these things has made @Null completely oblivious to the realities of the US grocery store, and his warped perception of the quality in food in Europe is due to him being able to afford the higher end bakeries there on his american cash dollar.

 

[Jet Fuel Johnny]

Forced car dependence in the US is also a factor in why food deserts and poor people being unable to access even Walmart-tier groceries are things.

Bitch, I'm not driving a fucking donkey to town.

Edit: Actually, fuck it. I might buy a goddamn wagon and see if my neighbors wanna kick in on buying some donkeys. We got room for a barn.