2023 Israel-Palestine Armed Conflict

I'm going to need more evidence on that. From everything I've read Jews living in Palestine before the foundation of the modern state of Israel weren't being hunted down, oppressed or otherwise. It was only when Zionists and Palestinian Arabs started fighting over who had the "rights" to the land, so to speak did things start to turn ugly.
Islamic informing. A myth promoted by muslim & leftist academics, and breadtubers like Hasan Piker. I guess things weren’t ugly relative to Nazi Germany. In the Islamic “golden age” when Medieval Europe was generally aggro’ing on jews, they were better off in Muslim lands, though even then muslim massacres & pogroms of large numbers sometimes happened. But for the past 300 years or so, Enlightenment to Interwar period, muslim dominant countries were worse for yids. They were subject to the same dhimmi status as all abrahamic minorities...taxed more, mandatory clothing accessories (it’s where Euros got the yellow badge idea), forbidden from building temples or even rebuilding them (Pact of Umar). Up until late 19th century, the leaders of Moroccan jewish communities had to bring jizya tax to the Sultan every year, whereupon accepting it the Sultan’s official struck them with a cane to remind them of their place. In Yemen up until their 1950’s expulsion to Israel, jews were required by law to clean municipal cesspits & haul off animal carcasses. Murad III ordered all Ottoman jews be liquidated, only rescinding it when the jewish court physician persuaded his mother to step in. Even Hitler had more gratitude than a turkroach, he authorized the emigration of his mom’s jewish doctor & his wife with their wealth intact.

The Levant is no exception. Safed, near the Galilee, saw two anti-Jewish riots in 1834 & 1838 where the jewish population was set upon, beaten & robbed, with murder & rape thrown in. Even stole the doors from jewish homes, lol, mad niggerish. Safed is notable as the only recorded instance of a jew’s testimony being accepted as equal to a muslim’s, that’s how fed up the Egyptian pasha was with Palesimians. In Jerusalem 1847/1870, in Jaffa 1876, in Jerusalem again 1895. Many more outside of south Levant, like Aleppo 1850/1875, Damascus 1840/1848/1890, Etc. There was the Damascus Affair in 1840, a Muslim & Christian blood libel team-up...these incidents rankled Western jews like Theodor Herzl, and all took place well before the first Zionist congress in 1897. Shiraz in 1910 had nothing to do with zionist incursion in Palaestina. I don’t think the 1941 ”Farhud” in Iraq had anything to do with zionism, though I could be wrong. The British consul in Palestine wrote in 1831 that “the jews here have to pay even for the air they breathe”.

We’ll exclude pogroms that clerics like Amin al-Husayni launched, anxious at the rate jews were buying Mandate land. The “Palestinian Studies PHD” Hasan Piker recently had as a guest said they “rejected Jewish immigration”. Lynch a hundred mexicans & say ”I’m just rejecting immigration like those patriotic fedayeen, Free Palestine TX”...these keffiyah wearing douchebags will surely stream in your defense 24/7. Zionism is a vicious circle...it came about because jews felt they needed a safe zone, creating that safezone the way they did makes them unsafe, feedback loop. It’s too bad they didn’t pursue the Utah proposal, they’d have gotten along with the Mormons.
 
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"Sir, do you want peace or do you want to keep fighting?


"Yes".
 
The sick shit is, that prior to the 1960s (and even now if you really think about it), they are no different from any arab, syrian, Jordanian or otherwise. They could just accept them as their own but they never will. This would be like if we (everyone in the world) decided that the native white people in Alabama weren't truly American because the Europeans decided to make Alabama a state for all the ex-slaves in the country. And the Americans just up and decided that the best way to stick it to the blacks would be to reject our own American brethren. The thing about the Palestinians are the more you think about them the dumber it gets. Compared to other Arabs, they have no unique culture, language, religion, society etc. They have no separate history prior to 1948. Every other culture, from the Jews, to native Europeans and even Americans, have something to go back on.
A quote by Zuheir Mohsen, a Palestinian leader of the Palestine Liberation Organization (PLO) between 1971 and 1979:

“The Palestinian people does not exist. The creation of a Palestinian state is only a means for continuing our struggle against the state of Israel for our Arab unity. In reality today there is no difference between Jordanians, Palestinians, Syrians and Lebanese. Only for political and tactical reasons do we speak today about the existence of a Palestinian people, since Arab national interests demand that we posit the existence of a distinct "Palestinian people" to oppose Zionism. Yes, the existence of a separate Palestinian identity exists only for tactical reasons, Jordan, which is a sovereign state with defined borders, cannot raise claims to Haifa and Jaffa, while as a Palestinian, I can undoubtedly demand Haifa, Jaffa, Beer-Sheva and Jerusalem. However, the moment we reclaim our right to all of Palestine, we will not wait even a minute to unite Palestine and Jordan.”

Prior to the formation of Israel, "Palestinians" referred to everyone in living in Palestine, including Jews. A significant number of "Palestinians" are descendants of Arabs who migrated there in the last century, after or coinciding with the large Jewish migration. Yet those Jews are considered "colonizers," while those Arabs are considered "natives." Between approximately 1948 and 1967 (the Arab wars with Israel), Egypt occupied Gaza and Jordan occupied the West Bank. Neither nation ever bothered to establish an independent Palestinian state, and neither wants the territory back anymore.

Hell even the Lebanese have more unique history and culture than the Palestinians. They're just Egyptians and Jordanians aka: other arabs. Notice how the Arabs who live in Israel/have Israeli citizenship don't start calling themselves Israeli-Palestinians? They call themselves Arab-Israelis because they are Arabs who live in Israel. Palestinians are the WE WUZ KANGZ of the Middle East. And just like the Blacks in the USA who think they're Jews, the Palestinians are just Arabs who are too ashamed to recognize that they aren't special (when compared to other arabs) and frankly got the short end of the stick and lost every battle, so instead of trying to improve they chimp out. I have so much more respect for the ones that drop the Palestinian shit and just say "hey I'm an arab from the levant".
The Lebanese have been shown to be genetically descended from the Canaanites. The land should therefore be returned to those who preceded both the Arabs and the Jews. Then at least the Jews, the source of the problem would be gone, right? Well it turns out that the Lebanese hate the Palestinians too. Lebanon is an apartheid state that keeps Palestinians walled off in an open air prison.

no joke lincoln had the idea of just giving the blacks land out west and letting them do whatever they want with it.
Free black people and emancipated slaves in America were in fact given their own country in their ancestral homeland with a government modeled after the U.S. constitution where only blacks can be citizens. For some reason, they'd rather live in the systemically racist, white supremacist U.S. where they are discriminated against, impoverished, imprisoned, and shot by police for no reason.

The Israel vs Muslim sperging should be split off into a debate thread or something to contain all these retards arguing about which desert niggers cocks they want to suck so you don't have to wade through pages of that shit to find out the latest happenings in the jew vs muslim war.
https://kiwifarms.net/threads/israel-palestine-2023-war-debate-thread.173908/
 
Nasrallah blames America, saying Israel is its tool and established a new red line where if Israel attacks Lebanon Hezbollah will attack back with all options on the table.

Hezbollah is scared to start anything
Hezbollah is a guerilla group. If Syria couldn't breach IDF defenses with armored and air support ina surprise attack back in 1973, with the full backing of the USSR, how is Hezbollah going to do it with Iranian monoply money when the IDF is fully aware of the threat?
 
The more important issue with Hamas jumping the shark is that Iran and Hezbollah had no prep time for when the Balloon went up. The time to actually do something was before Israel had the opportunity to fully mobilize and the US to show up with enough firepower to invade three countries at the same time.

Instead Hamas kicked off a major war without warning its allies that was what was going to happen and left them scrambling. You saw the Iranians moving troops around and trying to get Ammo to Hezbollah AFTER shit hit the fan. It needed to happen before because Israel wasn't even asking questions anymore. It just straight up bombed Damascus airport to halt the arms shipments

Geopolitically it's not ideal for Iran either. Russia is still bogged down in Ukraine and Iran just sold all the stuff they needed to fight the Americans and Jews with too Bad Vlad for his 2 week SMO in the Donbass. So even if Iran wanted to fight the big war now, it can't.

Basically Hamas fucked up hard and now even their friends are admitting it.
 
The more important issue with Hamas jumping the shark is that Iran and Hezbollah had no prep time for when the Balloon went up. The time to actually do something was before Israel had the opportunity to fully mobilize and the US to show up with enough firepower to invade three countries at the same time.

Instead Hamas kicked off a major war without warning its allies that was what was going to happen and left them scrambling. You saw the Iranians moving troops around and trying to get Ammo to Hezbollah AFTER shit hit the fan. It needed to happen before because Israel wasn't even asking questions anymore. It just straight up bombed Damascus airport to halt the arms shipments

Geopolitically it's not ideal for Iran either. Russia is still bogged down in Ukraine and Iran just sold all the stuff they needed to fight the Americans and Jews with too Bad Vlad for his 2 week SMO in the Donbass. So even if Iran wanted to fight the big war now, it can't.

Basically Hamas fucked up hard and now even their friends are admitting it.

I mean their move surprised everyone and had some positive ramifications for them like bringing the Saudi's and Iranians a bit closer, focusing the Yemeni's on the Israeli's. But it does seem like everyone are scrambling the best they can. The only ones that had a plan, though they weren't ready for it either (on purpose or not) were the Israelis.

Americans now have 2.5 carriers in the area with the LHD 5 (Amphibious assault ship with JSF 35s) moving up as well. Everyone are just letting Israel get what it can cause nobody dares make the first move. Maybe for the better.
 
The more important issue with Hamas jumping the shark is that Iran and Hezbollah had no prep time for when the Balloon went up. The time to actually do something was before Israel had the opportunity to fully mobilize and the US to show up with enough firepower to invade three countries at the same time.

Instead Hamas kicked off a major war without warning its allies that was what was going to happen and left them scrambling. You saw the Iranians moving troops around and trying to get Ammo to Hezbollah AFTER shit hit the fan. It needed to happen before because Israel wasn't even asking questions anymore. It just straight up bombed Damascus airport to halt the arms shipments

Geopolitically it's not ideal for Iran either. Russia is still bogged down in Ukraine and Iran just sold all the stuff they needed to fight the Americans and Jews with too Bad Vlad for his 2 week SMO in the Donbass. So even if Iran wanted to fight the big war now, it can't.

Basically Hamas fucked up hard and now even their friends are admitting it.

Imagine being a devout follower of Allah and not having your nation prepared to genocide the Jews at a moment's notice. ngmi
 
It seems Colombia are recalling their ambassador from Israel and may eventually sever ties, article and with Bolivia following suit
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Oh no two Communist shithole countries are mad at Israel, what shall the Jews do now?!!!

The corollary to people batching about Israel bombing a densely populated urban area is that the densely populated urban area should not have started a war if they didn't want to get bombed.

Hamas entered this war under the very childish delusion that they could kill, kidnap, and rape Israelis with impunity and not suffer in return. On October 7th they put their rather naïve theory into operation. They sowed the wind and now they are going to reap the whirlwind.

Yeah, this. I don’t even think they were prepared for what would come of it. Probably thought they’d get a few hostages, use it to trade for other hostages, and that would be it. But their dudes chimped out at an unprecedented level and they now have no idea how to deal with the resulting war. I know people were theorizing that they have stockpiles of resources in the tunnels but the way they were all panicked on the phone begging the Indonesian hospital for all their fuel kind of indicates to me they don’t have much down there and are probably really struggling.

They fucked up hard when they killed the civvies at that concert and took some hostage, they fucked up even worse when they whipped out their cellphones and recorded almost everything they did while attacking Israel. A lot of the time we usually would just get Al Jazeera or some leftist western MSM carrying water for Hamas while the Israeli side of it was just handwaved away as Jewish lies or it was somehow justified. Now when they try to justify the Oct 7th attack the Israelis can just pull up phone videos of Jewish and non-Jewish civilians being butchered like swine while the Hamas fighters cheer and scream ALLAHU ACKBAR over the corpses.
 
IDF posted audio of what they claim is an intercepted call between two Hamas deputies while one is at this exact hospital demanding that the hospital give them all of their remaining fuel. Sounds like the tunnel bois are running low on resources and predictably prioritizing their heeb killing rockets over keeping dying Gazan patients alive. Scum.
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Full audio here: https://twitter.com/idf/status/1718203005231665657?s=46
If true, it’s kind of hilarious considering Hamas was going off mere days ago about how this hospital suffering a power outage due to lack of fuel was “a crime against humanity”

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Follow up on the Indonesian hospital Hamas was forcibly taking all the fuel from the other day:
Apparently IDF today smoked out the area around the hospital and then dropped an air strike on a building very close to it.
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