Horrorcow Zoe Quinn / Chelsea Van Valkenburg / Locke Valentine / @UnburntWitch / @Primeape / CrashOverride / Hat Box / Old Uncle Anime - Con Artist, Abuser, Sexual Harasser, Drove Alec Holowka to Suicide.

[ChuckSlaughter]

'm wondering if I'll get a DMCA on that video I did with her creepy characters in VR...

What video??

I think we should all leave really good reviews so she tries to make more games in the future.

This. Let's not defeat wu. Let's keep her just barely relevant enough to laugh at.

Ugh. No part of this ugly thing says "porn" to me.

Try harder damnit.

CON is almost like Scientology: They claim to give you the help you need, drill you for info to use against you, only pay attention to the rich and the famous, and will make your life a living hell if you dare to speak out against them. The only difference is that Chelsea hasn't jumped on Oprah's couch, and thetans have been swapped out for goofygrippers with Mike Cernovich as CON's version of Xenu.

It's interesting that they all probably developed these skills while protesting scientology.

 

[Yellow Yam Scam]

It's a short term strategy though. These are people who are still relatively young. Zoe will collect a few grand a year off this stuff for awhile. Maybe even get a token job doing voicework in a video game. But this isn't something that's going to last well into the future. You aren't making a career out of this. The people giving $20 a month to these people aren't going to be doing this a decade from now. There will be new social justice issues and new professional victims.

I guess what I'm saying is that these people are going to hit 40 years old at some point with no skills, no job history, and a whole crapload of search results that would turn off any future employer. They all took the easy way out because they are lazy and years down the line they'll be paying the price for it.

She seems to understand that and is already pivoting into several other industries, and her Tingler game is an actual and legitimate game that will probably sell. Seems to be working out pretty well for her financially. I think people here underestimate people's tolerance for being pariahs in certain communities in exchange for money and fame.

 

[piripiri]

Probably been posted but saw this over on kia

 

[AnOminous]

Probably been posted but saw this over on kia

Irony, thy name is Chelsea.

 

[Hodor]

She seems to understand that and is already pivoting into several other industries, and her Tingler game is an actual and legitimate game that will probably sell. Seems to be working out pretty well for her financially. I think people here underestimate people's tolerance for being pariahs in certain communities in exchange for money and fame.

I'm honestly curious which one of Chelsea's friends is Tingle, because there's no fuckin' way it's her.

 

[Jack Awful]

You can call it a massive backfire, but there are several people literally making a living off of being ostensible victims of this shit. I'll deal with people calling me mean names on the internet if it makes me $36K a year, I don't give a fuuuuck.

Could just be them trying to give proof that misogyny is an issue in gaming.
If GG just petered out immediately they wouldn't be able to point at a boogeyman and say "HELP! These people over here are oppressing me! Give me money!"
If GG ended immediately I doubt anyone would know or care about Zoe Quinn.

 

[Yellow Yam Scam]

I'm honestly curious which one of Chelsea's friends is Tingle, because there's no fuckin' way it's her.

I don't think there's even any reason to think it's one of her friends rather than a straight business arrangement. She has $36,000 from patreon in addition to whatever financial grifts she's running, there's no reason to think she didn't just convince Tingle to license the brand for a game in exchange for an upfront payment or a percentage of the profit.

 

[Keystone]

Probably been posted but saw this over on kia

And all people who claim to fight "Online Harassment" are absolute trash human beings who pretend to be the good guys. Though this cunt knows all about that.

Listening to a wheezy laughing canadian dolphin present the proof is kind of hard to dispute.

 

[repentance]

Shots fired.

http://archive.is/MEozb

Your move Randi.

 

[TheMonkeyMan]

Shots fired.

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Your move Randi.

This is what I thought of immediately when Medium said that they needed someone in the logs to consent.

 

[AnOminous]

This is what I thought of immediately when Medium said that they needed someone in the logs to consent.

They could just be being legally pussified. In a lot of states there are what are called "one party consent" laws for clandestine recording of phone conversations. There really isn't an equivalent for chat logs, but maybe they think they're on safer ground doing it that way.

 

[Patrick Buttman]

Shots fired.

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Your move Randi.

Ian recently did a podcast with the Honey Badgers, and it even though it's almost 3 1/2 hours long, he dishes the dirt about the CON leaks, what it was like interacting with Chelsea's goon squad, and why he left the SocJus cult behind.

 

[Brandobaris]

They could just be being legally pussified. In a lot of states there are what are called "one party consent" laws for clandestine recording of phone conversations. There really isn't an equivalent for chat logs, but maybe they think they're on safer ground doing it that way.

My guess is, they just don't want to do it. Theres probably a hivemind radio silence order out there, or they don't want to turn on their purple haired Jesus. They can't let those racist alt-right Trump loving goobergaters win!

Even if all the stuff I said above is not true, then it's a simple matter for Silverstring to call them up and say "Hello we have 5 people with lawyers ready to put you through hell over this no matter if you have consent or not, so do everyone a favor and step off"

 

[repentance]

They could just be being legally pussified. In a lot of states there are what are called "one party consent" laws for clandestine recording of phone conversations. There really isn't an equivalent for chat logs, but maybe they think they're on safer ground doing it that way.

The logs are already in the public domain. That should make commenting on them protected, regardless of where that commentary is published.

This is their normal back channel bullshit they use to censor stuff. Randi publishes on Medium so they care more about what's published there.

 

[AnOminous]

The logs are already in the public domain. That should make commenting on them protected, regardless of where that commentary is published.

This is their normal back channel bullshit they use to censor stuff. Randi publishes on Medium so they care more about what's published there.

I mean Medium, not those idiots.

 

[repentance]

I mean Medium, not those idiots.

There's not really a legal basis for Medium taking it down. The logs were sent to journalists as part of a press kit and had already published elsewhere before Geth wrote his article. "Consent" is kind of irrelevant once the logs are already public.

This is a personal favour.

 

[Cynical]

There's not really a legal basis for Medium taking it down. The logs were sent to journalists as part of a press kit and had already published elsewhere before Geth wrote his article. "Consent" is kind of irrelevant once the logs are already public.

This is a personal favour.

Geth has taken the ammo Ian handed him and fired back:

https://www.reddit.com/r/KotakuInAc...ionbrianna_wu_zoe_quinns_biggest_mistake_now/

 

[kcbbq]

Shots fired.

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Your move Randi.

Ian really pulled his head out of his ass. Hard to believe.

 

[FatNero]

They could just be being legally pussified. In a lot of states there are what are called "one party consent" laws for clandestine recording of phone conversations. There really isn't an equivalent for chat logs, but maybe they think they're on safer ground doing it that way.

Wouldn't the one party consent apply to the recording itself, and recording the logs, requiring you to be in the chat would be consent in and of itself?

If such a thing existed, which it doesnt, but you'd imagine it prob will need to exist eventually.

 

[repentance]

Wouldn't the one party consent apply to the recording itself, and recording the logs, requiring you to be in the chat would be consent in and of itself?

If such a thing existed, which it doesnt, but you it prob will need to exist eventually.

I think it's more akin to a group email. Once the discussion becomes public, does anyone have a legal obligation to respect "privacy". Not even the original participants are arguing that it does - in fact Randi herself has commented on the logs. If they believed they could argue the "privacy" angle, they would have at least issued token takedown notices and they haven't done that.

Whether anyone in the original discussions had an obligation to keep the logs private is a separate issue to whether third parties have an obligation to not publish them or not allow discussion of them once they have been released (even if their release was illegitimate).

I don't think Medium is worried about legal issues here.