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This is an Israel Palestine thread, not yet another Russia Ukraine spergout containment area.
2023 Israel-Palestine Armed Conflict: Official Mass Debates Edition
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He's a terminally online contrarian. He has no ideology of his own, nothing to defend. He just spergs out at the "current thing".
And he doesn't shower.
And he probably gets fucked in the ass by Glenn Greenwald.
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Okay, how about this?
Did Hamas' revenge killing of Israeli children render their cause/country illegitimate?
Maginot
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You really wouldn't believe how ate up Israeli forces are outside the airforce that doesn't face opposition. They can't actually have proper infantry without training and experience. Those things are in short supply with everyone is on a fast track conscription.
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Are you going to reword your question until you get the combination of words that makes me answer in a way you want?
Does killing Israeli children make Hamas' cause illegitimate? Yes
Does killing Palestinian children make Israel illegitimate? Yes
Execute the leadership of both sides. Keep doing it until they stop deliberately targeting children, civilians, etc.
How about it? Would you be OK with that outcome?
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Because Israeli army is super casualty-adverse. Consider Operation Rainbow. They attacked Gaza, suffered 13 deaths, and withdrew because they considered such casualties as too much. Consider Operation Defensive shield, attack on West Bank, 30 Israelis died, Israel withdrew. Operation Hot Winter, attack on Gaza, 3 Israeli deaths, Israel withdrew. You get the picture.
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Preserve the troops, sacrifice 1400 civilians lmao
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I don't agree that Israel is deliberately targeting children and civilians. I think they're trying not to, but Hamas makes it very difficult by deliberately using children and civilians as meatshields.
As far as Hamas deliberately targeting and slaughtering civilians and children, yes, that's absolutely what's happening.
Directly and intentionally targeting Jewish civilians and children isn't a bug for Hamas, it's a feature.
Hamas would probably prefer to kill IDF soldiers, but they're pussies, and so they're perfectly happy to hunt down unarmed civilians instead.
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Yeah of course you don't. Israel didn't mean to bomb a refugee camp but there was a Hamas guy in there so they had no choice.
You're arguing in bad faith because you support one side over the other. As I expected you would. You can't support the completely equal and equitable "resolution" of "kill the leadership of both sides until they stop killing kids" because in your head one side is justified in killing kids and shouldn't be punished, whereas the other side is just evil.
Good luck, have fun.
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I don't agree that Hamas is deliberately targeting children and civilians. I think they're trying not to, but Israel makes it very difficult by deliberately using children and civilians as meatshields.
Additionally, it's not like Hamas can embark on a flotilla of F35s and drop JDAMs on the Israeli military bases.
Why can't IDF just show up near the Gaza strip in a standard formation so Hamas doesn't have to murder wave after wave of kibbutzim inhabitants to get to those juicy IDF Tik Tok artists and dancers?
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My web browser couldn't even stretch beyond 25% zoom to get the full list.
Seems like Bibi opened the monkey paw when he created Hamas to destroy the PLO and Fatah.
And now his own reputation as "Mr Security" per Murphy's Law has gone into the shitter.
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I still think it was funny watching Shapiro react to the random Tik-Toker.
Well just listen to Israels diplomats.
Well just listen to Israels diplomats.
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Didn't Bibi talk about emulating Amalek or something as well.
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That was indeed fun.
"International law?!? UN? Pfffft!"
Everyone hates Jews. You cannot trust any international org. Gotta do everything yourself.
Wellll, yourself and the golem.
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What's really going to get that to a boil is differentiating the ones that died on military bases to Hamas and the ones that were shot by Hamas, and the ones that died when the air force dropped a bomb(on an Israeli base to regain control). If you're creative, everyone that died can be scratched up to Hamas and nobody is allowed to know anything more.
You can even do this with current casualties.
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I'm gonna be honest fam, I don't know why Hamas did it. They did it, and they sure killed a good bunch of those fackin Jews, but at what cost to themselves? And what about the populace they ostensibly govern? It doesn't bug me when an enemy combatant eats it from a drone strike, but it bothers me when Palestinian women and children bear the brunt of Israeli aggression while the actual enemy is chillin' like Hitler in underground bunkers. It also bothers me when Anglican hospitals get burned by Hamas bogan rocket fire.
I know that Jesus would call for immediate cease-fire and humanitarian aid. I so want to be able to provide such aid without half a doubt it might get diverted to the terrorists who got the area in this fine mess. I hate every side of this conflict, but I'm still partial to the Jewish cause. But my moral compass, my sense of right and wrong is ambivalent. I don't want to embrace the Palestinians after they killed so many of my friends. But you must know that feeling when your lolcow friend is doing something super cringe and you don't really want to defend their cringiness. This is where I am. The only PC thing I can say is, pray for Peace in the Holy Land.
I know that Jesus would call for immediate cease-fire and humanitarian aid. I so want to be able to provide such aid without half a doubt it might get diverted to the terrorists who got the area in this fine mess. I hate every side of this conflict, but I'm still partial to the Jewish cause. But my moral compass, my sense of right and wrong is ambivalent. I don't want to embrace the Palestinians after they killed so many of my friends. But you must know that feeling when your lolcow friend is doing something super cringe and you don't really want to defend their cringiness. This is where I am. The only PC thing I can say is, pray for Peace in the Holy Land.