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The ultimate issue is a lack of zeal.

Leftists do what they do because they have messianic delusions. Most right-wingers simply don't have that.

It's actually even simpler then that and has been said many times

The Right thinks the Left is naive and misguided

The Left thinks the Right is evil and irredeemable

This is why the Right tends to lose as they lack the moral stamp of "it's OK when we do it because We are the good guys." The Left feels fully justified in doing "what ever it takes" because in their minds they are working for the best of everyone so if they have to cheat a little (or a lot) then its OK because it's all for the greater good. It's call having the moral mandate if you want to get fancy.

It's the old do the ends justify the means moral quandary and our post modern progressive Left has resounding said FUCK YES IT IS.

It's also a moral high so to speak, they get to feel all warm and fuzzy and lets be honest, morally superior, because the evil Right is only working for themselves and their families when the noble Left is trying to make everything better for everyone. If those stupid, redneck, cousin fuckers would just listen to their betters!

Nothing has really changed since the French Revolution. We are still stuck in the same paradigm, doing the same things and have the same arguments over and over because we as a human race still have not come to a definitive answer on the biggest question since we tossed out the Kings and Emperors.

What is more important; personal freedom or a person responsibility to society?
 
It's actually even simpler then that and has been said many times

The Right thinks the Left is naive and misguided

The Left thinks the Right is evil and irredeemable

This is why the Right tends to lose as they lack the moral stamp of "it's OK when we do it because We are the good guys." The Left feels fully justified in doing "what ever it takes" because in their minds they are working for the best of everyone so if they have to cheat a little (or a lot) then its OK because it's all for the greater good. It's call having the moral mandate if you want to get fancy.

It's the old do the ends justify the means moral quandary and our post modern progressive Left has resounding said FUCK YES IT IS.

It's also a moral high so to speak, they get to feel all warm and fuzzy and lets be honest, morally superior, because the evil Right is only working for themselves and their families when the noble Left is trying to make everything better for everyone. If those stupid, redneck, cousin fuckers would just listen to their betters!

Nothing has really changed since the French Revolution. We are still stuck in the same paradigm, doing the same things and have the same arguments over and over because we as a human race still have not come to a definitive answer on the biggest question since we tossed out the Kings and Emperors.

What is more important; personal freedom or a person responsibility to society?

You know the, "Would you kill baby Hitler?" moral quandary? The left thinks we're all Baby Hitler.
 


I don't feel so good Joebros

That faggot governor of California or that midget kike governor of PA will be the Democratic nominee next year
the dems used the monkey's paw to get Trump out of the white house. now they're gonna have a party civil war. Cause Team Biden, probably Team Obama in disguise, want to keep power. Biden's total health be damned. They're not gonna let Newsom or someone else take the nomination lying down.

The younger folks are pro palestine while the older folks are pro israel. The young people don't usually go out and vote. The middle age folks probably do. And if they're pro palestine, they're gonna split the vote by not voting at all or voting 3rd party.
 
The right-wing could try to manufacture their own idea of an impossible dreamland to be achieved. There is a good chance that could backfire though.
Never going to happen. The successful right-wingers have families so they have more tangible things to care about than ideals, while everyone else is some incel NEET trying to convince themselves that they're above the niggercattle because reasons.
 
That's called Israel and forcing the hand of God to bring forth the rapture.
Israel is only for Israel. On one level, it's admirable, but given how they have to use other people to get what they want, I wouldn't call them any sort of Right wing ally. They could have been, had America absorbed 20 years of anti-Islam propaganda instead of indulging in Islamophobia and other Leftist nonsense.
 
Complaining = having an opinion
Course of action = voting

We're circling back to the original statement, just wording it differently.
Say you're with a group of friends deciding on where to eat. Two of them decide on Applebee's, one of them decide's Chili's. You don't take a vote, so Applebee's win. You end up complaining about going to Applebee's because you don't like it. Why didn't you vote for something else then?
 
Say you're with a group of friends deciding on where to eat. Two of them decide on Applebee's, one of them decide's Chili's. You don't take a vote, so Applebee's win. You end up complaining about going to Applebee's because you don't like it. Why didn't you vote for something else then?
I do vote, I just think people that shit on other people for choosing not to vote are enormous faggots.

In regards to your analogy, if my friends told me we were going to eat dinner at Applebee's or Chili's, I'd tell them to fuck off and not go with them because I don't like either. Nobody is holding a gun to your head and forcing you to make a choice, and if they were, you can always choose to let them shoot you. Not choosing is a choice, and it's as valid as any other. If anything, a no vote for the sake of protest shows a lot more courage than voting for what you think is a lesser evil. If you pick a side, you will get shit on by the other side. If you choose to abstain, you get shit on by both sides.

Most people bitching about someone else not voting would much rather their opposition abstain than vote against them. It's often just a coin flip recruitment tactic because the largest voting block in the US are non voters. If you can shame and name call someone into voting, there's a 50/50 shot they will vote for what you want, and probably better since they've already submitted to your demands once.

Gender is binary. Governance isn't.
 
Dafuk they think he's going to do when he's not president? He's just going to point out the impossible situation they're in and they'll get their panties in a twist because he'll tell them that they have been idiots and will need to agree to terms they will refuse to. At best it would be an excuse to imprison or assassinate him on behalf of (((their controllers))).

Literally the only thing he could do if he magically became president this second is yank everything out of Ukraine and fortify the Polish border. Russia respects him to an extent but not enough to forgive America for this bullshit
 
Literally the only thing he could do if he magically became president this second is yank everything out of Ukraine and fortify the Polish border. Russia respects him to an extent but not enough to forgive America for this bullshit
I know this isnt the thread for it, But putin didnt play with trump because trump told him, make one move on ukraine and I bomb moscow all those domes *pop*

biden showed weakness with Afghanistan and when the move was made the state department offered to take zelinski out of there.

But for the russia people to be secure they will need to control and plus ether directly or indirectly the natural geographic barreriors to their west that ukraine doesnt have those its just on the way to those points.

To swing back on point why is zelinksi calling for trump and when did the media start talking about him again? I think the game plan was to freeze him out on twitter and not talk about him.
 
Dafuk they think he's going to do when he's not president? He's just going to point out the impossible situation they're in and they'll get their panties in a twist because he'll tell them that they have been idiots and will need to agree to terms they will refuse to. At best it would be an excuse to imprison or assassinate him on behalf of (((their controllers))).

Literally the only thing he could do if he magically became president this second is yank everything out of Ukraine and fortify the Polish border. Russia respects him to an extent but not enough to forgive America for this bullshit
It's more likely Ukraine is pissy about not getting their money and is making the offer to make Biden look bad.
 
I want your opinion on blinkton. He's basically president now right? How shit is his performance and ability in your opinion?
There us no one person in power. Biden is a puppet with so many hands up its ass its bursting at the seams. Less now than before though and the priest have finally been given some ammo to possibly break their massive stalemate.
 
I want your opinion on blinkton. He's basically president now right? How shit is his performance and ability in your opinion?
He's probably the smartest one in the chain of command, but he's too limited in his own power and relies on persuading the others or being delegated to.

I don't know enough about him to know if he has his own agenda, but he seems to have enough awareness that he is trying to keep everything from going to shit.
 
He's probably the smartest one in the chain of command, but he's too limited in his own power and relies on persuading the others or being delegated to.

I don't know enough about him to know if he has his own agenda, but he seems to have enough awareness that he is trying to keep everything from going to shit.
He's a senior swamp creature or a midwit bureaucrat. He's just smart enough to keep the corruption from going full banana republic (which the Far Left aren't even capable of doing), but doesn't communicate a proper vision or charisma to lead people. His trips to China and the Middle East have been diplomatic disasters where actual world leaders browbeat him for his fecklessness and Biden's* lack of control. He's pretty much your cookie cutter WEF manager pretending to be a world leader.


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*For those who think of it as Obama's third term, they don't think much of Obama either when they left him hanging at the airport.
 
Stalin consistently got 100% of the vote, but they still kept insisting on elections. Because a vote is consent. You have enough access to information to know that your politicians are only beholden to money and NGOs run by wannabe bond-villains. Ignoring it or calling people who try to help you realize it conspiracy theorists or nazis while pretending the problems don't exist isn't the best way to solve it.

Representative democracy only works when the politicians pay more than mere lipservice to the needs and desires of their constituents. Now we have politicians swearing to outlaw private car ownership in American cities because Blofeld-lite told them to. Now we have politicians routinely shit on half the entire electorate, something unthinkable 20 years ago if you wanted to be elected to fucking dog-catcher, let alone President. This shit is over, you just haven't been paying attention. And that's also why shit is over.
 
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