Terrorist Ex-Councillor Samuel Collingwood Smith / Vordrak / Sam Smith / BenvolaStar / Matthew Hopkins News - Convicted defamer, vexatious litigant, actual terrorist, GamerGator, stalker, extortionist (Prosperous Software Consulting Limited)

[LikeicareKF]

Only way sam spent 4 hours talking to the police is if they were questioning him over child sexual abuse claims

 

[GREEDY FIREMAN]

Please give us more personal information about your (mostly fake) private army via CloudFlare abuse reports.

There is the possibility that he's trying to get more outrage at the Farms via multiple snowflake dox, but that would mean he's deliberately neglecting to mention CloudFlare's reporting policy so that he can use (possibly) well-meaning and/or marginalized people as cannon fodder in his War on Lulz.
Surely Samuel Collingwood Smith wouldn't be so unethical.

 

[repentance]

There is the possibility that he's trying to get more outrage at the Farms via multiple snowflake dox, but that would mean he's deliberately neglecting to mention CloudFlare's reporting policy so that he can use (possibly) well-meaning and/or marginalized people as cannon fodder in his War on Lulz.
Surely Samuel Collingwood Smith wouldn't be so unethical.

Not just Cloudflare. Almost any organisation which can accept a legitimate complaint has to sooner or later reveal the identity of the person who made the complaint.

 

[Jaimas]

About the Evanescence thing; it sure amplifies the meaning to Snow White Queen. I'm willing to bet britfag jacked off while listening to it.

Great. Now I have that fucking mental image in my head.

 

[MG 620]

"I will be your McKenzie Friend and if you are unemployed or on a low income you will be exempt from the court fees."

<3 vordrak is such a big flirt <3

 

[KotAGoR VIII]

There was a girl that co-administered Samuel Collingwood Smith's We Are The Fallen forum, who suddenly dropped all of her Twitter accounts (brokenbutterfly, TtWD_WAtFfans, sypstreetteam, hydriafans, and tsfrmusic) in December of 2010. I'm sure that it was a pure coincidence that she was a high schooler:

Spoiler: The third time's a charm

She was also an Evanescence fan, so you might have expected her to have known about Sam's past involving Amy Lee. Whether she was previously aware, she was apparently warned by others:

Besides assisting Sam in his attempts to get anyone to join his forum, she also utilized Sam's talents to assist in her efforts to promote other bands:

Spoiler: IT Expertise

I'm sure that Sam was just being helpful, and the prospect of impressing this teenager with his talents, along the promise of access to others, never crossed his mind.

But then it all suddenly comes to an end:

Spoiler: Goodbye, Sam

Across her various accounts she mentions numerous times of being unable to attend concerts for the bands that she is promoting. It is likely that she had strict parents. Were they displeased with her scholastic performance? Or had they become aware of their daughter's activities online, including socializing with a skeevy older British gentleman?

Yet despite saying her farewells and never using any of her Twitter accounts ever again, as late as June of 2011, she is signing posts on the Facebook account. Had the allure of a failed forum held more sway than her actual social media accounts, or had Sam assumed her identity?

 

[Chemical snorfare]

maybe @Ginger Piglet can tell us how many times Sam would have needed to contact an underage girl online, for it to be considered "grooming"?

 

[MysteriousStranger]

I don't know. You can call the Britcops when you've been misgendered. There probably is a First Degree Hurt Fee-fees.

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/art...e-Labour-opponent-keeps-calling-meetings.html

 

[Ponderous Pillock]

If they actually spoke to him for 4 hours I'd be incredibly surprised.

More likely the desk sergeant told him to park his ass in a waiting area for 1 to 2 hours after hearing what he wanted to talk about with busy police officers, because there was more important stuff to document first. Then he got shuffled around to multiple desks because nobody had any real clue about what to do with a forum that is hosted outside of UK jurisdiction.

From what I can tell they didn't. Sam found the name of a detective or got their email from some source somewhere and proceeded to spam the shit out of them. This email was later found by us (because he can't stop talking about how awesome he is) which our very own Dynastia proceeded to contact them.

The detective had basically requested on multiple occasions for Sam to stop involving her in the pointless slapfight that bore no interest for Herts police to investigate. (They're right next to London, they have actual crime to be bothered by).

Samaboo has now complained to the relevant Independent Police Complaints Commission accusing said detective of being a kiwi stooge and being actively involved in our "harassment campaign" against him. IPCC are kind of obligated to treat complaints seriously and, honestly, the process to file is a bit of a bitch to try and discourage cranks from doing just this kind of abuse of the system that Sam is performing.

So, while someone could be actually corrupt, taking kick backs, drugs, or god knows what else and their force is protecting them (a la South Yorks, the vilest least trusted force in the country) resources have to be dedicated because Sam finds this more important than any actual crime.

 

[Null]

Are you using the word Detective in a different way? The people he CC'd into those emails were genuine police officers and not independent detectives.

 

[Ponderous Pillock]

Are you using the word Detective in a different way? The people he CC'd into those emails were genuine police officers and not independent detectives.

The person he emailed was a DCI, detective Inspector, which is a rank the UK police force use. DCI and Detective Sergeant (DS) are the two main ranks used by front line investigators in the UK

 

[Ginger Piglet]

maybe @Ginger Piglet can tell us how many times Sam would have needed to contact an underage girl online, for it to be considered "grooming"?

I don't think it works that way. Check the Sexual Offences Act 2003 for such things. Basically, it's an offence to meet up with, or arrange to meet up with, a person who ir or who you should reasonably believe to be underage if it can be shown you intended sex with them. Only strictly speaking needs to be one meeting or arranged meeting which he then went to and they'd bring in all his chatlogs as evidence while he takes a seat right over there. However he must have contacted them on at least two occasions.

As regards the misgendering, I suspect it's virtue signalling from Lancashire Police, that is. They'll make a song and dance and then quietly let it drop so it looks like they're Progressive and Not Transphobic. They might, if it carries on, try and charge with some sort of harassment related offence but it's not likely to go any further frankly.

 

[Luminous Being]

From what I can tell they didn't. Sam found the name of a detective or got their email from some source somewhere and proceeded to spam the shit out of them. This email was later found by us (because he can't stop talking about how awesome he is) which our very own Dynastia proceeded to contact them.

The detective had basically requested on multiple occasions for Sam to stop involving her in the pointless slapfight that bore no interest for Herts police to investigate. (They're right next to London, they have actual crime to be bothered by).

Samaboo has now complained to the relevant Independent Police Complaints Commission accusing said detective of being a kiwi stooge and being actively involved in our "harassment campaign" against him. IPCC are kind of obligated to treat complaints seriously and, honestly, the process to file is a bit of a bitch to try and discourage cranks from doing just this kind of abuse of the system that Sam is performing.

So, while someone could be actually corrupt, taking kick backs, drugs, or god knows what else and their force is protecting them (a la South Yorks, the vilest least trusted force in the country) resources have to be dedicated because Sam finds this more important than any actual crime.

I don't think Sam just found the officers email address(es).

I actually believe that he went to the police and got seen by a DCI/DS/whatever and they gave them their contact details after taking an initial report. Sam, clever man he is, proceeded to then incessantly write to and harass the poor people he was able to coax a mail address out of. When they told him that his problem was not something they could help him with he went and filed his civil lolsuit against screen names and got default awarded damages he'll never be able to collect from anyone.

The whole internal investigation thing is interesting now, though.

I wonder if Hertforshire police ever genuinely opened a case for Vordy's complaint or just got familiar enough with the subject matter and then told him to stop talking to them, they couldn't do anything. If there is a case file or something somewhere, even for the internal investigation against Dynastia's secret police boyfriend, would @Null be able to contact them in any way and request a copy of it?

 

[Ginger Piglet]

If there is a case file or something somewhere, even for the internal investigation against Dynastia's secret police boyfriend, would @Null be able to contact them in any way and request a copy of it?

You could do a Subject Access Request to them under FOI / data protection regulations enclosing something in signed writing by Dynastia or anyone else to whom it relates and a cheque for £10.00 and they'll have to pony it up within 42 days.

 

[Smutley]

I don't think it works that way. Check the Sexual Offences Act 2003 for such things. Basically, it's an offence to meet up with, or arrange to meet up with, a person who ir or who you should reasonably believe to be underage if it can be shown you intended sex with them. Only strictly speaking needs to be one meeting or arranged meeting which he then went to and they'd bring in all his chatlogs as evidence while he takes a seat right over there. However he must have contacted them on at least two occasions.

Then hasn't he technically broke it since he flew to the states, at least once, to meet with all his underage teenage galpals at an EV concert in an attempt to get personally thanked by Amy Lee?

 

[Ponderous Pillock]

I wonder if Hertforshire police ever genuinely opened a case for Vordy's complaint or just got familiar enough with the subject matter and then told him to stop talking to them, they couldn't do anything. If there is a case file or something somewhere, even for the internal investigation against Dynastia's secret police boyfriend, would @Null be able to contact them in any way and request a copy of it?

In all likelyhood? Nope. He would've been given a report number, or a crime report number. These are simply for your own records and not the police.

To be honest a lot of places rely on corporate style emails so simply things like name.name@hertspolice blah blah. You can wind up emailing people in important place like that very easily.

Sam's endless complaining about people saying mean things about him get gunned through because he continues to act as a public figure (albeit an obscure one) same with some of the other cows we have here. (Jon Bishop is another one) and in spite of their own attempts at war... well. They're public figures. That's that.

 

[Luminous Being]

in signed writing by Dynastia

Yeah...

In all likelyhood? Nope. He would've been given a report number, or a crime report number. These are simply for your own records and not the police.

To be honest a lot of places rely on corporate style emails so simply things like name.name@hertspolice blah blah. You can wind up emailing people in important place like that very easily.

Sam's endless complaining about people saying mean things about him get gunned through because he continues to act as a public figure (albeit an obscure one) same with some of the other cows we have here. (Jon Bishop is another one) and in spite of their own attempts at war... well. They're public figures. That's that.

Yeah that makes sense.

It's still weird that they'd give you a report number and not have anything in their system though. The number must come from somewhere and be linked to something if you use it to reference something you talked about to police.

I'd almost bet money on it that there's a report of some kind.

And Sam being a public figure, sure. In a very strict definition of the term that's true.

 

[Cthulu]

So, while someone could be actually corrupt, taking kick backs, drugs, or god knows what else and their force is protecting them (a la South Yorks, the vilest least trusted force in the country) resources have to be dedicated because Sam finds this more important than any actual crime

He got the wrong detective. We have paid a different one in kick backs, drugs and hookers.

 

[Null]

The Kiwi's reach goes right up to the tippy top. @Judge Holden is former prime minister David Cameron.

 

[repentance]

Yeah...

Yeah that makes sense.

It's still weird that they'd give you a report number and not have anything in their system though. The number must come from somewhere and be linked to something if you use it to reference something you talked about to police.

I'd almost bet money on it that there's a report of some kind.

And Sam being a public figure, sure. In a very strict definition of the term that's true.

If it's anything like the system here, there'll be something attached to the number but it may literally be his name and contact details plus a one sentence summary.