Disney General - The saddest fandom on Earth

[A Sentient Cloud]

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Character named Kang got casted by a black actor. Black actor got #MEtoo in real life and ruins his career. Marvel put everything in the Kang basket and is now fucked. Sometimes the universe just lines up like a big joke. BLM still quiet about Disney screwing over another black.

I don't get why they're so panicky about Majors. Just fire him and recast the role if it's such a problem, these things happen all the time. They ditched Terence Howard after the first Iron Man basically just for being annoying. Anyway, this hypothetical Avengers sequel won't start filming for another six months (which means there probably isn't even a script yet) and isn't slated for release until 2026. There's a decent chance Marvel will toss everything before then.

Right now, the larger issue seems to be that Quantum Mania bombed harder than Hiroshima and Disney is anticipating worse for The Marvels, which is why they're crawling on their hands and knees back to RDJ, who hopefully won't go back now that he seems to be riding a Being In Real Movies Again high after Oppenheimer.

 

[Sinner's Sandwich]

Right now, the larger issue seems to be that Quantum Mania bombed harder than Hiroshima and Disney is anticipating worse for The Marvels,

Why is Disney suddenly concerned about their movies failing? Did they finally realize that they don't have endless money and that they need to produce good products to earn money? I highly doubt that. They will continue to shit out ugly, woke garbage movies and wonder why no one wants to watch a giant pile of steaming mouse excrement.

 

[Counterfeit Obol]

Why is Disney suddenly concerned about their movies failing? Did they finally realize that they don't have endless money and that they need to produce good products to earn money? I highly doubt that.

I think the Hulu sale being finalized (though not fully pushing through until next year) was their wake up call. It was always hanging over their heads.

 

[Leaf Wage Slave Jr]

I don't get why they're so panicky about Majors. Just fire him and recast the role if it's such a problem, these things happen all the time. They ditched Terence Howard after the first Iron Man basically just for being annoying.

I feel like it’s the nature of the Beast at this point - knowing the people Disney tries hardest to appeal to, imagine the backlash there if they did have to recast Majors, especially if they decide to pivot to Doom. Think of the sheer amount of online bitching if they fired a Black Actor and hired a White Actor to play the MCU’s new Big Bad. Even ignoring that this is one case they could arguably get away with a race swap if they just never take Doom’s Mask Off. Yes it would still be retarded, but I’m feeling nice and giving them an out

…actually now that I’ve said it, fucking do it Marvel - it’d probably be more entertaining to watch than anything the MCU has shat out in recent memory.

 

[Chilson]

I don't get why they're so panicky about Majors. Just fire him and recast the role if it's such a problem, these things happen all the time. They ditched Terence Howard after the first Iron Man basically just for being annoying. Anyway, this hypothetical Avengers sequel won't start filming for another six months (which means there probably isn't even a script yet) and isn't slated for release until 2026. There's a decent chance Marvel will toss everything before then.

Right now, the larger issue seems to be that Quantum Mania bombed harder than Hiroshima and Disney is anticipating worse for The Marvels, which is why they're crawling on their hands and knees back to RDJ, who hopefully won't go back now that he seems to be riding a Being In Real Movies Again high after Oppenheimer.

Majors is the scapegoat for them attempting a soft reboot because almost everything in phase 4 and 5 flopped HARD. Those at the top of Disney are also fully aware of how turned off most of the casual audience has become to Marvel (and virtually every other monolith property Disney spent billions acquiring/developing).

The panic over Majors is more of vent point for all the shit they have had to contain over everything going wrong within the House of Mouse.

 

[A Sentient Cloud]

I feel like it’s the nature of the Beast at this point - knowing the people Disney tries hardest to appeal to, imagine the backlash there if they did have to recast Majors, especially if they decide to pivot to Doom. Think of the sheer amount of online bitching if they fired a Black Actor and hired a White Actor to play the MCU’s new Big Bad. Even ignoring that this is one case they could arguably get away with a race swap if they just never take Doom’s Mask Off. Yes it would still be retarded, but I’m feeling nice and giving them an out

…actually now that I’ve said it, fucking do it Marvel - it’d probably be more entertaining to watch than anything the MCU has shat out in recent memory.

People online bitch about everything. Honest to God, I don't think it would make a single cent's difference to their bottom line whether they keep Majors or ditch him. No one who was going to see the movie already is going to change their mind because of it. Certainly not overseas.

Majors is very much Not The Problem. The primary problem was when they made the completely ass-backwards decision to flood the market with product, which both serves to make Marvel content feel like less of an event, and at the same time puts a huge amount of pressure on the production workers, resulting in lower quality FX, direction, acting, etc. It's insane how diluted the value of this billion-dollar brand has become.

Anyway, this is the Disney thread, not the Marvel one, so I'll leave it at that.

 

[Sinner's Sandwich]

The primary problem was when they made the completely ass-backwards decision to flood the market with product, which both serves to make Marvel content feel like less of an event, and at the same time puts a huge amount of pressure on the production workers, resulting in lower quality FX, direction, acting, etc.

Also the directors are arrogant cunts who don't care about the original comics and make the characters look hideous. They refuse to give comic fans what they want and in return comic fans refuse to watch their garbage movies.

 

[A Sentient Cloud]

Back to Disney and Wish, it's striking how little I'm hearing about it. They're not hiding it, I've seen trailers on TV and reports that Disney World has added actresses playing Asha to the stable, but no one really seems to be anticipating it. This is supposed to be a Big New Disney Princess Movie and I'm seeing nothing. No astroturfing, /r/movies doesn't care, I'm seeing nothing on Twitter. Where is the buzz?

Probably doesn't help that "Wish" is a TERRIBLE title for SEO purposes.

 

[Screamer_2]

Right now, the larger issue seems to be that Quantum Mania bombed harder than Hiroshima and Disney is anticipating worse for The Marvels, which is why they're crawling on their hands and knees back to RDJ, who hopefully won't go back now that he seems to be riding a Being In Real Movies Again high after Oppenheimer.

Antman 1: $519,311,965
Antman 2: $622,674,139
Antman 3: $476,071,180

Why wouldn't it be considered that far off what was expected? The second one had a bump from being just after Infinity War.

It's almost as if they didn't realise they have different franchises under the Marvel banner and not just one...

 

[starborn427614]

Back to Disney and Wish, it's striking how little I'm hearing about it. They're not hiding it, I've seen trailers on TV and reports that Disney World has added actresses playing Asha to the stable, but no one really seems to be anticipating it. This is supposed to be a Big New Disney Princess Movie and I'm seeing nothing. No astroturfing, /r/movies doesn't care, I'm seeing nothing on Twitter. Where is the buzz?

Probably doesn't help that "Wish" is a TERRIBLE title for SEO purposes.

The one-word titles are so played out at this point. It was cute with Tangled and Frozen (and Moana makes sense, it's the name of the protagonist) but films like Soul could've easily been called something like Soul Music and it would've conveyed the same idea.

 

[Mac Monster]

Back to Disney and Wish, it's striking how little I'm hearing about it. They're not hiding it, I've seen trailers on TV and reports that Disney World has added actresses playing Asha to the stable, but no one really seems to be anticipating it. This is supposed to be a Big New Disney Princess Movie and I'm seeing nothing. No astroturfing, /r/movies doesn't care, I'm seeing nothing on Twitter. Where is the buzz?

Probably doesn't help that "Wish" is a TERRIBLE title for SEO purposes.

I would not be surprised if it severly underperformed or even flopped. Disney and Pixar's animated films have been sucking dick at the boxoffice since the pandemic and Wish just looks like the same faggy shit we've gotten from them for the past five years.

 

[madethistocomment]

Disney fumbling Wish's art style so insanely hard absolutely blows me away. You'd think that they'd see the incredibly warm reception of properties with hand-painted textures like Arcane, Spiderverse, the Last Wish, and Nimona and do that for this movie since clearly the style is in right now and it fits the storybook vibes they claim to be going for.

But since the Rat is too cheap to put in that effort, instead we get a shitty line/watercolor filter slapped onto everything that doesn't show up half the time and absolutely awful shading that barely exists. The art direction is half-baked and half-assed, and it deserves the cold reception it's getting.

 

[Vyse Inglebard]

Even more lulz-worthy, as someone already pointed out, Wish is supposed to be the studio's big centennial celebration movie, and yet, they've fucked it up so badly that it's landed with this much of a fucking thud.

 

[Kari Kamiya]

Given that the Star was originally planned to be 2D only for them to change their mind (probably last minute tbh) over bullshit reasons, it wouldn't be surprising if there was an original art direction only for it to be scrapped mid-way and they had to sloppily put a new skin over what was already done.

I mean, supposedly they said they wanted that "it's a painting" look (like Sleeping Beauty), but someone had to have fucked up the rendering and they were stuck with it without delaying it.

 

[Trilby]

Given that the Star was originally planned to be 2D only for them to change their mind (probably last minute tbh) over bullshit reasons, it wouldn't be surprising if there was an original art direction only for it to be scrapped mid-way and they had to sloppily put a new skin over what was already done.

I mean, supposedly they said they wanted that "it's a painting" look (like Sleeping Beauty), but someone had to have fucked up the rendering and they were stuck with it without delaying it.

These guys will never live up to the original masters.

 

[Athena Loves Kiwis]

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Martin Scorsese still living rent free in the heads of MCUFAGS.

I could be more sympathetic if Marvel movies were grimdark attempts at Serious Art like a lot of DC films but they're not. They're goofy comedies that constantly mock and act like they're embarrassed by their own premise and genre. If the movies and shows don't take themselves seriously, why should the creators expect anyone else to?

 

[Vyse Inglebard]

We interrupt this thread of grief to tell you that it's the 20th anniversary of Brother Bear today.

re: Brother Bear

Excellent beginning and ending, meh middle, plauged with many of the same problems 2010s Disney has (lol so quirky characters, a reliance on bad jokes to fill silence, etc.), only much more tolerable in the context of what came after. also the soundtrack unironically slaps.

 

[Mac Monster]

re: Brother Bear

Excellent beginning and ending, meh middle, plauged with many of the same problems 2010s Disney has (lol so quirky characters, a reliance on bad jokes to fill silence, etc.), only much more tolerable in the context of what came after. also the soundtrack unironically slaps.

The ending has always stuck out to me just for the fact that the main character chooses to give up his previous life and stay as a fucking bear.

 

[A Sentient Cloud]

Disney fumbling Wish's art style so insanely hard absolutely blows me away. You'd think that they'd see the incredibly warm reception of properties with hand-painted textures like Arcane, Spiderverse, the Last Wish, and Nimona and do that for this movie since clearly the style is in right now and it fits the storybook vibes they claim to be going for.

But since the Rat is too cheap to put in that effort, instead we get a shitty line/watercolor filter slapped onto everything that doesn't show up half the time and absolutely awful shading that barely exists. The art direction is half-baked and half-assed, and it deserves the cold reception it's getting.

It looks straight up BAD. The backgrounds are flat. The colors look washed out. The characters are the same awful big-eyed CG Barbie dolls they’ve been doing since Tangled (except now there are blacks and Asians so racism is solved I guess).

The movie isn’t out yet and I’m already sick of Valentino and the LOL SO RANDOM chicken jokes fresh from 2004.

I’m also so over heroines that are adorkable awks-mcgawks can’t-do-anything klutztastic goofballs. It’s not relatable, it’s annoying. When your creative writing teacher explained that characters need flaws they didn’t mean THIS. And don’t tell me this is what audiences want, serious kick-ass Elsa is a million times more popular than dumbass goober Anna.

 

[AnsemSoD1]

I pray that Disney is in too bad of a position to add any of the really esg fueled crap come KHV.