Russian Special Military Operation in the Ukraine - Mark IV: The Partitioning of Discussion

[Butterschmalz]

Some IIF cuck posted this for real. These people... jesus christ.
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Germany has been subsidizing gas heating and electricity since 22. Official government page:

https://www.bundesregierung.de/breg-en/news/energy-price-brakes-2156430
https://archive.ph/idZ5O

The cost for the taxpayer...I think its for 22-23

https://www.businessinsider.de/poli...weniger-streit-um-haushalt-christian-lindner/
https://archive.ph/GCw3x
Lets see how long they can keep it up...it is supposed to be a "success".

 

[Useful_Mistake]

Ukraine is mass conscripting women as per NYT


NYT implies most of male soldiers are already dead:


Women are actively sent to fight and die for Ukraine, no longer just for paramedic missions.

NYT copes by saying that despite the fact that women know they are being conscripted, despite forming female only divisions, and despite sending them to die, and despite the fact that NYT agrees that draft is coming. technically this isn’t a draft

https://archive.ph/bfswU

 

[AnotherOne]

Ukraine is mass conscripting women as per NYT
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NYT implies most of male soldiers are already dead:
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Women are actively sent to fight and die for Ukraine, no longer just for paramedic missions.

NYT copes by saying that despite the fact that women know they are being conscripted, despite forming female only divisions, and despite sending them to die, and despite the fact that NYT agrees that draft is coming. technically this isn’t a draft

https://archive.ph/bfswU

If it wasn't obvious before Ukraine is massively undercounting casualties. They're already getting into volksturm territory:

The average age of Ukrainian soldier is older than 40 as the country grapples with personnel problems​

As countless casualties have hampered Ukraine's forces, the average age of a soldier in the country is currently around 43 years old, Time magazine reported last week.

That average is up by nearly 10 years from March 2022, one month after the war began, when the average age of a Ukrainian soldier was between 30 and 35 years old, according to FT.

Someone with a better grasp of statistics could probably figure out the implications of that shift given the size of the Ukrainian army and Ukrainian pre-war demographics. But I'm not sure 70,000 dead Ukrainian troops (the last US estimate) would move the needle by that much. Tbh I think that's one of the reasons Ukraine (or more accurately Zelensky) has to keep fighting; once the dust settles the scale of the wartime bullshit will become obvious and nothing short of victory will make that worth it.

 

[DagothUr]

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Wtf? Do they just not conscript men from western Ukraine? You can see in videos they have already been bringing older guys to fight, and it's not like literally the entire male population of the Ukraine has been shoahed. Do they want to make sure all the eastern Ukrainians die first or what?
I guess that would make sense if you knew that you would probably not have any of those areas for much longer.

>"The All female training sessions are aimed at providing a learning environment where woman would not feel less knowledgeable than men, and where their efforts would not be compared to male physical strength"
>"women are able to fight on equal footing with men" - "the gender of a warrior makes no difference"
MFing hohols have to make safe spaces for women mobiks to cope in cause they cant train with the men. Yet still try to spin it as "MUH STRONG WOMEN"
lol, lmao even.

 

[Betonhaus]

Someone with a better grasp of statistics could probably figure out the implications of that shift given the size of the Ukrainian army and Ukrainian pre-war demographics. But I'm not sure 70,000 dead Ukrainian troops (the last US estimate) would move the needle by that much. Tbh I think that's one of the reasons Ukraine (or more accurately Zelensky) has to keep fighting; once the dust settles the scale of the wartime bullshit will become obvious and nothing short of victory will make that worth it

If these numbers are right, not even total victory where they take back all land and even Russian land will be able to justify the number of dead in this war.

I expect to see a lot of mail order Ukrainian brides in the future - assuming the war ends before Zelensky has to resort to child soldiers.

 

[Butterschmalz]

Small observation: Israel/Palestine kinda divided the Russia/Ukraine crowd on the farms and on twitter. Pro russian blogger James Porrazzo turns out be pro Israel and is tweeting shit like this...

There are probably more. And its been mentioned before but Visegrad24 (Polish channel) which became famous for anti migrant sentiment and went straight to Slava Ukrainii should be renamed to KosherMeat24 for stuff like this:

Based Poland went straight to "based missing foreskin".

 

[White_N]

Ukraine is mass conscripting women as per NYT
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NYT implies most of male soldiers are already dead:
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Women are actively sent to fight and die for Ukraine, no longer just for paramedic missions.

NYT copes by saying that despite the fact that women know they are being conscripted, despite forming female only divisions, and despite sending them to die, and despite the fact that NYT agrees that draft is coming. technically this isn’t a draft

https://archive.ph/bfswU

Hmm, the article only mentioned volunteers, and yes, the Ukrainian Army could conscript women as early as 2021, and although this is limited to certain professions, the number of professions is enormous, and no, a job in the army can be completely unrelated to one's profession, such as Dugina's killer, Natalia Vovk, who officially served as a telephone operator.
And to search for information, I recommend typing the search query in Ukrainian, this way they are much more willing to share their secrets.

https://life.pravda.com.ua/society/2022/07/27/249722/

On October 11, 2021, the Ministry of Defense issued Order No. 313, which obliges some women to register for military service.

We are talking about women with professions related to 14 military specialties.

They are obliged to register with the military enlistment office from October 1. At the same time, the Defense Ministry promised not to fine women until the end of this year.

The ministry also assured that there is no need for forced mobilization of women.

However, during the war, many people had questions about how the specialty would be determined, whether women would be allowed to go abroad, and how they would check whether a woman was registered.

Starting October 1, women of some specialties will have to register at territorial recruitment and social support centers (formerly military enlistment offices).

-age from 18 to 60 years;
-no health contraindications;
-have a relevant specialty or profession related to the relevant military specialty - all of them are defined by the Order of the Ministry of Defense No. 313.
-On October 11, 2021, the Ministry of Defense published Order No. 313 with almost a hundred specialties and professions. Later, it was supplemented by Order No. 35 of February 7, 2022, and the list of specialties was shortened.

Thus, the current Order No. 313 specifies 14 specialties and 7 related professions, whose representatives must be registered from October 1.

These are the following specialties:

chemistry, chemical technology and engineering, biology
telecommunications and radio engineering;
software engineering, computer science, information systems and technologies, computer engineering, system analysis, cybersecurity, micro- and nanosystems engineering, automation and computer-integrated technologies;
Metrology and information and measuring equipment;
Earth sciences, geography, physics and astronomy;
food technology, technology of production and processing of livestock products;
military support, armaments and military equipment, light industry technologies;
physical therapy, ergotherapy, medical and psychological rehabilitation, public health, physical rehabilitation, industrial pharmacy, sanitation and expertise;
Dentistry, medicine, nursing, pharmacy, medical diagnostics and treatment technologies;
biomedical engineering, biotechnology and bioengineering;
Veterinary medicine, veterinary hygiene;
Accounting and taxation, marketing, management, entrepreneurship, economics, finance, banking and insurance;
publishing and printing;
psychology, social work, social security.

 

[Useful_Mistake]

But I'm not sure 70,000 dead Ukrainian troops (the last US estimate

Russia estimates Ukraine lost 90,000 in their Summer Offensive alone

https://english.alarabiya.net/amp/News/world/2023/10/30/Ukraine-s-army-suffered-90-000-casualties-during-counter-offensive-Russia-s-Shoigu

 

[prolapsed_cranium]

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These cope-addled faggots. They're going to lose their shit when this is over. The Chinp-out of the Century.

I literally just saw the Zelensky interview from November 6th where he says to give him credit instead of cash and he will pay back later.

Instantly went from "chill" to "pissed off". I will donate my taxes this year to Russia if they kill Zelensky. Fuck him into the Earth.

At this point, I'm fine with the Russians, Poles, and Hungarians splitting up Ukraine and liquidating all of the Banderites.

 

[Keystone]

Wtf? Do they just not conscript men from western Ukraine? You can see in videos they have already been bringing older guys to fight, and it's not like literally the entire male population of the Ukraine has been shoahed. Do they want to make sure all the eastern Ukrainians die first or what?

Yes, actually. Know why? Because eastern Ukrainians have a lot more ties to Russia than Ukraine; family, linguistics, culture, history, etc. As far as Ukraine is concerned, easterners are no different than Russians, so fuck em' they can all die.

I do wonder if they start black bagging the westerners in Lvov who have been lavishly partying this whole time if that will be what causes a mutiny. By the admission of their own government/military officials in those articles last week, they're almost at that point right now despite having largely used easterners as grinder meat.

 

[prolapsed_cranium]

Russia estimates Ukraine lost 90,000 in their Summer Offensive alone

https://english.alarabiya.net/amp/News/world/2023/10/30/Ukraine-s-army-suffered-90-000-casualties-during-counter-offensive-Russia-s-Shoigu

The interesting part is that they burned through 90,000 men in company level actions. Impressive to maintain that level of autism.

These steppe dwelling Kholhols can't even do battalion manuevers.

 

[Sir Joahim Browinson III]

>"The All female training sessions are aimed at providing a learning environment where woman would not feel less knowledgeable than men, and where their efforts would not be compared to male physical strength"
>"women are able to fight on equal footing with men" - "the gender of a warrior makes no difference"
MFing hohols have to make safe spaces for women mobiks to cope in cause they cant train with the men. Yet still try to spin it as "MUH STRONG WOMEN"
lol, lmao even.

No, you don't understand, based Zelensky gonna make muscly trad mommy waifus real, forging them in the fires of war agains orkish hordes!

 

[Givi]

For your viewing pleasure, lads - the finest Western copium.

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What a bizarre way of viewing warfare holy shit. You're not going to be dropping JDAMs on IFVs for very long when you're fighting a nation that has 40,000 of the fucking things and builds a hundred every month, and also has actual air defenses to shoot most of those down before they even make it to their targets

The Lancet is probably one of the best pieces of equipment to be rushed into widespread usage in a real war, ever. It can act as artillery and participate in counter-battery fire, it can harass infantry and its existence alone causes panic, it can be used as a tool to kill singular soldiers in trenches, it can easily destroy IFVs, APCs, trucks, jets and planes parked in runways, it will destroy any tanks that the enemy abandoned without forcing use of an ATGM or anything that would leave soldiers more vulnerable, it can sink boats that are being used by sabotage groups to cross rivers, and it can be used as a tool to harass (and even destroy) tanks. 60% of the M777 howitzers given to Ukraine and destroyed by the Russians were destroyed by Lancets.

The fact that the Switchblade is a piece of shit (it costs fifty fucking thousand dollars to make, which is hilariously inflated - the Lancet costs 35,000 and it's actually been proven to be good) that the US didn't bother making in any relevant number doesn't mean that suicide drones or loitering munitions (which are essentially just cheap guided artillery anyway) are "mediocre/not-so-impressive weapons". I can already tell the US is going to learn absolutely nothing from this war if this is the thinking in western circles.

 

[Midwit]

I can already tell the US is going to learn absolutely nothing from this war if this is the thinking in western circles.

The issue is that Western weapons aren't exceptional enough and they need to be even more expensive and overengineered, when Big Zam enters mass production the Russians will be finished.

 

[The Ugly One]

Ukraine is mass conscripting women as per NYT
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NYT implies most of male soldiers are already dead:
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Women are actively sent to fight and die for Ukraine, no longer just for paramedic missions.

NYT copes by saying that despite the fact that women know they are being conscripted, despite forming female only divisions, and despite sending them to die, and despite the fact that NYT agrees that draft is coming. technically this isn’t a draft

https://archive.ph/bfswU

Remember when Lindsay Graham came back and assured everyone that Zelesnky told him Ukraine would fight to the last man? He wasn't exaggerating. America ordered Zelesnky to throw every single Ukrainian citizen into the maw of the Russian meat grinder if he wants to get his payday. Remember what you're fighting for, Ukrainians. Remember why your rulers are sending your sons and daughters off to die.

 

[HOMO FOR LIFE RETURNS]

Looks like stock market is pricing in peace treaty soon lol.

 

[Betonhaus]

Looks like stock market is pricing in peace treaty soon lol.

Somehow I don't think there will be a peace treaty anytime soon

 

[Slur Generator]

Some IIF cuck posted this for real. These people... jesus christ.
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Fake growth by mass migration, i love it.

 

[make_it_so]

These cope-addled faggots. They're going to lose their shit when this is over. The Chinp-out of the Century.

I'm dreading but also kind of looking forward to the inevitable images of busted up Abrams tanks simply to see these people's reactions.

And we know it's inevitable because there's no reason to believe the Ukes will be any less incompetent with them than with any of the other shit we've given them.

 

[VargReallyDidNothingWrong]

These New York Times articles where they're being so blasé about "oh yeah there's been ever increasing need to draft women, Ukranians have been forming special women only training units and encouraging women to sign up and fight".


I hope one day they will look back and think long and hard whether it was worth it and what it was all for. I know the ghouls in the west never will because they clearly don't care. But maybe the Ukranians themselves at one point will think about what this was all for.