crustystipend
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And we know it's inevitable because there's no reason to believe the Ukes will be any less incompetent with them than with any of the other shit we've given them.
It's not about the tanks or even Ukrainians.I'm dreading but also kind of looking forward to the inevitable images of busted up Abrams tanks simply to see these people's reactions.
For nearly 50 years, after the Vietnam war, starting with poor Grenada in 1983 and then Panama in 1989, the US has been careful to take on only overmatched opponents. Scarcely anyone alive in the US has any memory of what it is like to face a peer military competitor, which last happened in the Korean war. And after the fall of the USSR, Western forces have been changed to make them more and more standoff-munitions and surveillance based. Just take the obsession with MALE drones for example. They're great against an opponent without radars or an air force but they are pathetically weak against even the most basic SAMs (let alone or AAMs or even aircraft with guns). With tanks, the assumption has been that American soldiers will be safe behind their DU armour with their ammo carefully stored in blow-out bustles and they will always have overhead surveillance, CAS and CASEVAC on demand and face no EWAR or comms jamming or hostile ISR.
Any rational person can deduce that in the Ukraine war, even Abrams can and will be taken out, even if they were crewed by the best US crews - maybe they'll survive frontal hits but they'll be taken out by:
- LMURs firing from KA-52s 15km away or
- PKTM top-attack antitank mines or
- tandem warhead RPG-7s (no ERA or APS lol) or
- RPG-29s or
- RPG-30s or
- even just Orlan-lased Krasnopol 152mm shells or
- just plain remotely-dispersed antitank mines.
This is going to happen.
Western ground kit is failing because it is designed for police actions and mopping up after saturation missile and air strikes, not actual war against an enemy. None of these things in the list above are new and all of them are effective against Western kit.