Boogie / Boogie2988 / "Francis" / Steven Jason Williams - Fat, Rapidly Declining Divorced "Nice Guy" Middle-Aged Youtuber, Former Edgy Porn Blogger, lied about having cancer and being molested. Cohost of fake drama show "Lolcow Live (LCL)". Just WILL NOT die.

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Mrsneksnekson said:
who don't particularly like TommyC.
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I don't like TommyC, but that's besides the point. The fact that I'm forced to remember he exists, however, does jog some deep memories that I'm not sure have been brought up, and if they have, I still think they should be dredged up because they're currently relevant.

TommyC was an absolute nobody that, somehow, ended up in Keem's circle. Following the collapse of the Triggered podcast (which is a story unto itself), which Keem was a sorta co-host of, he tapped TommyC and Collosal is Crazy to be co-hosts for the Baited podcast, which was the first iteration of what I'll the "Keemstar Drama Podcast." Another story for another time is the Baited collapse, followed by the Mom's Basement, also with Keem and Collosal, this time with FaZe Banks, which ended two years ago, and now, the third iteration is the Lolcow Podcast.

"So what?" you're asking. To bring it back to the point, the Lolcow Podcast is a direct descendant of the Baited Podcast. The reason this is relevant is because on January 27, 2018, there was an episode of Baited featuring Boogie.


At around 26:30 Boogie talks about how he doesn't believe true altruism exists. He explicitly says that all "good deeds" are done with selfish intent, and that anyone that claims to be doing something good or helping anyone else for purely selfless reasons is a liar.

At 29 minutes Boogie talks about how "Boogie2988" is a character, specifically, the YouTube version of Boogie is "the person I want to be, my idealized self." He follows up with "who I am on twitch and podcasts is the edgier side of me."

At 31 minutes Keem calls Boogie out for bending to pressure and no longer covering drama stories. Boogie says that he feels like a piece of shit for covering drama on his channel. Keem says that it's a shame, because Boogie's channel would be doing better if he continues his coverage of YouTube drama. Boogie response with "yeah sure, if it was all about views I'm sure I could get a million views a video just by covering drama, but I don't want to be that person." /// Taken alone this would be normal Boogie nice guy act, but what's interesting is this is directly contradicting what he said five minutes prior. He stated that there is NO true altruism, and that EVERYTHING is done with selfish intent, but then explicitly says he's refusing to cover drama out of the kindness of his heart, even though this is costing him money.

At 38 minutes Boogie accuses Keem of being a narcissist and reads off the diagnostic criteria for NPD, which is amusing, considering the source.

Peppered throughout: Boogie talking about being abused and molested by his mother. Collosal going in on Boogie about his weight, hard. At one point Collosal says that "fat people aren't people." Boogie retorts that a lot of people that get to his weight are there because they were molested. ANY TIME anyone seriously goes hard into Boogie, Keem interjects and defends Boogie, to the point of absurdity. At one point Keem even tells Collosal, half jokingly, that they should hold Collosal down and let him be raped, and then see if he gains any weight.

I bring this up because, in my opinion, Boogie genuinely believed or believes that Keem will continue to run defense for him, to include giving TommyC or anyone else on the podcast explicit orders to go soft on Boogie, and to acquiesce to Boogie's demands on what is off limits. It should also be noted that TommyC, at the time he was tapped for the Baited podcast, was unemployed and living off of his wife's salary in Germany, and on his show Shot From the Point mentioned several times how grateful he was and how much Keem specifically had impacted his life. Regardless of my thoughts on TommyC, I believe that Boogie thought TommyC would effectively be a puppet of Keem, and therefore would continue to shield Boogie from criticism as Keem did on the Baited podcast.
 
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Marc83 said:
I don't know about you guys, but this last week has been fucking glorious watching Boogie go down the way he has.
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I hope he's so shattered he has a heart attack and dies.
WelperHelper99 said:
Dude watching Boogie on shrooms is something I didn't think I needed this week but damn, I'm laughing now
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He wasn't even on shrooms, the fake fat fuck. If he actually seriously saw himself the way he actually is, he wouldn't have ego death, he'd just have actual immediate real death because he'd kill himself.
 
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AnOminous said:
I hope he's so shattered he has a heart attack and dies.

He wasn't even on shrooms, the fake fat fuck. If he actually seriously saw himself the way he actually is, he wouldn't have ego death, he'd just have actual immediate real death because he'd kill himself.
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"Ego death" has to be one of the dumbest things psychedelic hippies say. and it really fucking annoys me. Most of them are fucking kooks other than people like Hamilton Morris. Really I'm guessing they just feel depersonalization or disassociation. It's not a scientific concept at all or related to a real mainstream psychological framework. Jungian psychology is horseshit for mystics. And many if not most psychedelics in an ethnobotanical context were used for more mundane reasons or just to receive visions from ancestors, purge evil spirits, locate lost objects, or the like, not "ego death." Unfortunately for how scientific liberals supposedly are, they have a very basic, human-centered, mystical view of self, identity, and psychology in general. We live in a mental health cult world with a focus on therapy, so naturally all these psychedelics are seen through that prism, and while they certainly might have value therapeutically (they act on same/similar receptors as SSRIs do) many past cultures didn't do this shit for "emotional healing" or "finding yourself."

I consider people who use that phrase to be scientifically illiterate.

But, do you really doubt Boogie refused to eat something put in front of him? With his body mass, I bet boogie needs like 20 g of shrooms just to feel a little funny.
 
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Lmao, what the fresh fuck is this?

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Rich from review tech invited Boogie on while streaming the latest mutahar video on Boogie.


1:53:50 mark. Rich tries to press him. Keemstar joins too. Seems like they are pushing the lulcow podcast hard again.

2:10:00 Mutahar joins and isn't taking any of Boogie's bs

Keemstar probably sees all the traffic as an opportunity.
 
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shoashuffle said:
Fat faggot just made it private. Expect 0 deletion

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He has like 100k tweets, its impossible to delete that much
its also impossible for him to delete the entire account, because its how he spends the majority of his life

this is were alcohol, which is i think the only vice that boogie doesn’t partake in, would’ve come in handy. If I were him I’d already drunkenly deleted the whole account years ago on a whim
 
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WaveBreak said:
He has like 100k tweets, its impossible to delete that much
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it could be that he is going to use an auto-delete script, theyre pretty popular and easy to find
100k might take quite a while, but thats probably why he privated his twitter first, because he knew even a script would take hours to run

but i agree, i also dont think hes deleting his account, i think he will nuke his tweets then waddle back very soon
 
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I'm sure I'll get some clocks for this but I can't help but point out how much this fucker reminds me of Lowtax.

Irreversibly fallen from grace due to his own actions: check
Grey, scruffy, unkempt, fat: check
Morally questionable choice of partner: check
Destructive behavior in relationships: check
Narcissist: check
Liar and scammer: check
Incapable of facing reality and the fact the clock is ticking for his effortless cushy lifestyle: check
Nothing is ever his own fault, refuses to make any change whatsoever: motherfucking check

How long before he takes this increasing resemblance to its inevitable conclusion?
 
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shoashuffle said:
This really is human trafficking.
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Yeah. So there's two broad categories of narcissism, one is the classic big ego cockhole and the other is the boogie type, broadly referred to as "atypical narcissism." Basically, in order to get that narcissistic satisfaction, they do the boogie pity party so people go "oh you're not so bad, you're really great actually!"

Why I point out the obvious is because these different types of people have different ways of manipulating people. Classical narcissists use negging, put downs, love bombing, and other classical strong arm control methods to isolate their victims and make their victims feel dependent on them. Atypical narcissists do the opposite, they try to make the victim feel responsible for them, locking the victim into a psychological box that won't allow them to leave.

Bringing it back to boogie and the girlfriend: I can guarantee you the parents hate him. Family have told her many times to come back home. Instead of telling her to stay with him, he does the opposite. He tells her "oh you know, your family is really great, maybe they're right. Just go back home. No, don't worry about me, I'll be fine. I know I can't wipe my own ass, I know I'm dying and I need your help for basic everyday functions, but really what's important is you, don't worry about me. You have so much life left to live and I'm fat, sick, and nearly dead."

She's not leaving. He has his hooks in deep.
 
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Yeah. So there's two broad categories of narcissism, one is the classic big ego cockhole and the other is the boogie type, broadly referred to as "atypical narcissism." Basically, in order to get that narcissistic satisfaction, they do the boogie pity party so people go "oh you're not so bad, you're really great actually!"

Why I point out the obvious is because these different types of people have different ways of manipulating people. Classical narcissists use negging, put downs, love bombing, and other classical strong arm control methods to isolate their victims and make their victims feel dependent on them. Atypical narcissists do the opposite, they try to make the victim feel responsible for them, locking the victim into a psychological box that won't allow them to leave.

Bringing it back to boogie and the girlfriend: I can guarantee you the parents hate him. Family have told her many times to come back home. Instead of telling her to stay with him, he does the opposite. He tells her "oh you know, your family is really great, maybe they're right. Just go back home. No, don't worry about me, I'll be fine. I know I can't wipe my own ass, I know I'm dying and I need your help for basic everyday functions, but really what's important is you, don't worry about me. You have so much life left to live and I'm fat, sick, and nearly dead."

She's not leaving. He has his hooks in deep.
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I'm aware of Boogie's narcissism and manipulation tactics. Even with that, there is literally no reason at all for him to be the one who holds her ID.

The police need to get involved if boogie has confiscated this girl's forms of identification.
 
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