Boogie / Boogie2988 / "Francis" / Steven Jason Williams - Fat, Rapidly Declining Divorced "Nice Guy" Middle-Aged Youtuber, Former Edgy Porn Blogger, lied about having cancer and being molested. Cohost of fake drama show "Lolcow Live (LCL)". Just WILL NOT die.

[Mrsneksnekson]

So, does anybody of you know when this podcast is going to come out?

I would assume shortly, due to a recording error on wings end (stemming from boogie throwing a tantrum) they needed to edit more of the audio.

 

[bravosouth]

I didn't say you weren't.


Agreed.


There's nothing inherently illegal about possessing your girlfriend's ID, and there's no evidence of coercion. The police couldn't do anything.

I honestly can't believe they didn't make a bigger deal out of this statement, I can only assume they were too stunlocked to even engage with it. I have never had ANY of my girlfriends IDs in my wallet, let alone kept any in there. What possible reason could there be to do so, instead of Dezi keeping it in her wallet or purse or anywhere in her general possession? I can only think of two immediate situations where this might be expected, a parent carrying their child's documents or someone being sex-trafficked. Even a photocopy would be weird enough for me, but the physical card itself???

My bet is he's going to deflect and say some dumb shit about convenience, that she doesn't need to carry anything if he just holds them for her kinda bullshit. He wants her childlike and looking to him for direction, period. Jesus christ, can you imagine someone IDing her out in the wild and having to get Boogie to pull his wallet out of whatever fold he stashes it in?

Any bets on how long this private Twitter lasts? I'm gonna say less than 48 hours, myself.

 

[AnOminous]

I'm aware of Boogie's narcissism and manipulation tactics. Even with that, there is literally no reason at all for him to be the one who holds her ID.

It makes perfect sense if you remember he's an abusive pedophile.

 

[Swole McPole]

The only family farm she grew up on was one growing weed indoor under lights. And using the proceeds to fund the meth factory on the back lot.

Surely this fat cunt realizes we've seen her family now? We know that the family homestead was Little Crackhouse on the Prairie

 

[A Cardboard Box]

someone being sex-trafficked.

Yeah it's absolutely a power play. If she doesn't have access to her legal documents she can't do anything that might let her leave. No plane tickets, no job, no car. It's pretty gross. There's a reason why it's a federal crime to hold someone's immigration paperwork, unfortunately at the local level with two US citizens there's nothing that could be done. Even if there was, calling the cops and having them sniff around will only drive her closer to him, because he'll convince her it's those "crazy hate forum people" trying to "swat them and get them killed."

 

[sure]

I watched a bit of the RTU stream. it didn't take long for boogie to start using clum as a scapegoat now that the integrity of the information provided in the documentary that he ultimately signed off on is being questioned. for a guy who paraded around about the documentary being his "final truth" he sure has no problem admitting the amount of over exaggeration, guess work, embellishment, and straight up lying that took part in its production.

his temper tantrum meltdown was golden and a textbook example of boogie's defense mechanism - act like a literal child and shout over everyone to draw attention away from his lies being exposed.

 

[Swole McPole]

"Ego death" has to be one of the dumbest things psychedelic hippies say. and it really fucking annoys me. Most of them are fucking kooks other than people like Hamilton Morris. Really I'm guessing they just feel depersonalization or disassociation. It's not a scientific concept at all or related to a real mainstream psychological framework.

You're reading too much into it. Perhaps because moron after moron has made far too much of it.
It really just refers to a state that happens on high doses of strong psychedelics (ie, 400-500 mgc of LSD) when your sense of having an identity breaks down and you're only conscious of the great cosmic ebb and flow, being and matter no longer divisible but just one.

People talk about it as though it's some great intellectual insight or achievement -- something that gives them superor moral or intellectual status. In truth, it's just an effect of the drug. If you take enough of the stuff, you'll recognize the state and it'll dawn on you, 'ah, so THIS is what they were talking about?' (Not at the time, but when you come down a little. You're not really able to form rational thoughts in this state.) I think it has some cache because prior to the widespread use of LSD, it was something that you really only heard about from mystics and aesthetics who'd ploughed enormous amounts of intellectual and spiritual effort into achieving that state.

But all of that should have fallen away when it became something that was available to anyone who could afford 50p for a tab of acid. But there's nothing drug users love more than talking about their drug experiences, so for the last fifty or sixty years, every verbose know-nothing halfwit has decided the rest of us need to know what happened when they took psychedelics.

Nobody cares, you're not special, it happens to everyone. Go fuck yourself.

 

[thejackal2]

I honestly can't believe they didn't make a bigger deal out of this statement, I can only assume they were too stunlocked to even engage with it. I have never had ANY of my girlfriends IDs in my wallet, let alone kept any in there. What possible reason could there be to do so, instead of Dezi keeping it in her wallet or purse or anywhere in her general possession? I can only think of two immediate situations where this might be expected, a parent carrying their child's documents or someone being sex-trafficked. Even a photocopy would be weird enough for me, but the physical card itself???

My bet is he's going to deflect and say some dumb shit about convenience, that she doesn't need to carry anything if he just holds them for her kinda bullshit. He wants her childlike and looking to him for direction, period. Jesus christ, can you imagine someone IDing her out in the wild and having to get Boogie to pull his wallet out of whatever fold he stashes it in?

Any bets on how long this private Twitter lasts? I'm gonna say less than 48 hours, myself.

When you combine this with his creepy ass tweet about "catching my GF on her phone" yesterday the levels of control he feels comfy telling viewers about is rather concerning. He pays for her phone, almost certainly. He's controlling her access to her ID. She has no independent income. She is reliant on Boogie for housing, phone, and god knows what else.

I'm not going to call him a pedo for dating a fully grown 19-21 year old, but groomer? Predator? Fuck yea this is classic grooming and predation. He's slowly making her reliant on him for everything. He's slowly getting her used to having him carrying his ID, checking her phone usage (and if he pays the bill he has her logs) and so on and on.

 

[Chainsaw Juggler]

When you combine this with his creepy ass tweet about "catching my GF on her phone" yesterday the levels of control he feels comfy telling viewers about is rather concerning. He pays for her phone, almost certainly. He's controlling her access to her ID. She has no independent income. She is reliant on Boogie for housing, phone, and god knows what else.

I'm not going to call him a pedo for dating a fully grown 19-21 year old, but groomer? Predator? Fuck yea this is classic grooming and predation. He's slowly making her reliant on him for everything. He's slowly getting her used to having him carrying his ID, checking her phone usage (and if he pays the bill he has her logs) and so on and on.

There was some weird eyebrow-raising shit from his time with Dez1 as well. He made several social media posts from her phone or her social media accounts (including that fucked up one saying Boogie had died), some of which could have been taken as harmless fun at the time, but in hindsight maybe not.

I also remember Haberdasher trying to find out if some rumors were true that Boogie would often try to control guests' phone use within his house, but I don't think he verified anything.

These things all match up with recent revelations that Boogie is extremely difficult to work with behind closed doors and tries to greatly limit topics of conversation on podcasts. The guy is neurotically controlling for sure.

 

[PointOfNoReturnPoint]

There was some weird eyebrow-raising shit from his time with Dez1 as well. He made several social media posts from her phone or her social media accounts (including that fucked up one saying Boogie had died), some of which could have been taken as harmless fun at the time, but in hindsight maybe not.

I also remember Haberdasher trying to find out if some rumors were true that Boogie would often try to control guests' phone use within his house, but I don't think he verified anything.

These things all match up with recent revelations that Boogie is extremely difficult to work with behind closed doors and tries to greatly limit topics of conversation on podcasts. The guy is neurotically controlling for sure.

This type of behavior is exactly what you would expect out of him. Never had any real power in his life so the second he gets a taste of it he goes wild. You see this in every discord moderator and reddit power Jannie. Their are a few personal situations I saw on discord that relate exactly to this and its always the same. No power,abused, mentally ill and is incredibly ignorant.

 

[Marc83]

Yeah it's absolutely a power play. If she doesn't have access to her legal documents she can't do anything that might let her leave. No plane tickets, no job, no car. It's pretty gross.

Jesus, thats exactly what Lucy Fox said he did?

@4:45

Lucy Foxx and Boogie2988 Relationship Truth

Lucy Foxx posted this to reddit but shortly after deleted everything.Boogie2988 was in a relationship with Lucy Foxx for awhile post divorce but she left Boo...

www.youtube.com

 

[Fuck It We'll Do It Live]

"The Boogie2988 Rabbit Hole (ft. Mike Clum) | Some Ordinary Podcast #100", Nov 10, 2023:

 

[thejackal2]

This type of behavior is exactly what you would expect out of him. Never had any real power in his life so the second he gets a taste of it he goes wild. You see this in every discord moderator and reddit power Jannie. Their are a few personal situations I saw on discord that relate exactly to this and its always the same. No power,abused, mentally ill and is incredibly ignorant.

Boogie's sick demented brain has also been conditioned to associate money with power over women. He gets a little money he goes to the club, pays some poor girl to rub on him for a few minutes. He gets even more money he starts going on escort and sugaring sites. Thank fucking god this guy doesn't have real "fuck you" money because he'd be running a trafficking and pimping operation.

 

[PointOfNoReturnPoint]

Boogie's sick demented brain has also been conditioned to associate money with power over women. He gets a little money he goes to the club, pays some poor girl to rub on him for a few minutes. He gets even more money he starts going on escort and sugaring sites. Thank fucking god this guy doesn't have real "fuck you" money because he'd be running a trafficking and pimping operation.

He would be dead rather. He is unable to control impulse and when he gets the level of money fuck you money is, that would destroy him entirely. He may have had some small resepctable level of wealth at one point but not true fuck you money.

 

[Noire]

This type of behavior is exactly what you would expect out of him. Never had any real power in his life so the second he gets a taste of it he goes wild. You see this in every discord moderator and reddit power Jannie. Their are a few personal situations I saw on discord that relate exactly to this and its always the same. No power,abused, mentally ill and is incredibly ignorant.

Yup, you can discern similar type of behaviour in that talk he had with SomeOrdinaryGamers. The moment boogie sensed the "high ground" (in this case, SomeOrdinaryGamers denying that he said boogies girlfriend was 18 when he did in fact say it.) he went berserk, repeating things like a child.

It's barely even consequential that SomeOrdinaryGamers was wrong in that case, don't really understand why he was doubling down on it to then later excuse it by saying keemstar stated she was 18, it only really matters to boogie because there's nothing else to cling onto for him.

 

[Kuritan Deplorable]

It's barely even consequential that SomeOrdinaryGamers was wrong in that case, don't really understand why he was doubling down on it to then later excuse it by saying keemstar stated she was 18, it only really matters to boogie because there's nothing else to cling onto for him.

Standard reddit argument behavior, you get one detail wrong and your entire argument, including parts built on that detail, are considered moot, and you will be attacked for being wrong.

 

[cock gobbler]

Mutahar talks Boogie.

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Oh hey, it's a screenshot from bravosouth's post. Always good to see tubers pulling from the source.

I also thought it was pretty funny how Mutahar kept bringing up his wife, even outside of Boogie harassing her. Intentional or not, I bet it rustled the obese divorcee's shrunken testicles at least a little.

it didn't take long for boogie to start using clum as a scapegoat now that the integrity of the information provided in the documentary that he ultimately signed off on is being questioned. for a guy who paraded around about the documentary being his "final truth" he sure has no problem admitting the amount of over exaggeration, guess work, embellishment, and straight up lying that took part in its production.

That's why it's insane for Boogie to use Clum as a scapegoat. If Clum's info was bad, and Clum states in the doc that he had 'full access to Boogie's financial records', etc, then how is that Clum's fault? Seriously, what's the 'gotcha' here? That Boogie lied to more people?

I work with a woman that is as big as Boogie, she earns 6 figures. These people exist in the workforce, and can be successful.

This reminds me of a middle-aged couple I used to know.

Spoiler: Story time

The wife was crazy smart with a high-paying job, husband's job was less impressive. Both were morbidly obese, and were pleasant to talk to.

Without getting too specific, the husband had some health issues crop up, wife made the decision to give support. Due to the nature of the support, wife loses a ton of weight to protect her own health; she looks like a totally normal person now. Husband is still morbidly obese, even after the vast amount of support he got from his wife. He'd make excuses as to why he wouldn't change his diet/lose weight. Guy reminded me of Boogie in some ways, but nowhere near as bad.

What really got on my nerves was the guy was a huge Disney Adult, and would always send me his work at the last minute because he was 'busy' posting about Disney all damn day.

 

[bravosouth]

Oh hey, it's a screenshot from bravosouth's post. Always good to see tubers pulling from the source.

@cock gobbler He pretty much lifted my recent post/clips re:Boogie's $1500 boxing training costs @ 29:30 too, I'm just glad that either him or someone on his team is on the Farms getting the straight goods TBH.

P.S. hi muta and team, i'll keep the fuel coming as long as you guys keep the fire fed lol

 

[Cats]

p.s. there are boogie threads on other websites now LOL

Some of the people on that website are weird...

 

[Harbinger of Kali Yuga]

You're reading too much into it. Perhaps because moron after moron has made far too much of it.
It really just refers to a state that happens on high doses of strong psychedelics (ie, 400-500 mgc of LSD) when your sense of having an identity breaks down and you're only conscious of the great cosmic ebb and flow, being and matter no longer divisible but just one.

People talk about it as though it's some great intellectual insight or achievement -- something that gives them superor moral or intellectual status. In truth, it's just an effect of the drug. If you take enough of the stuff, you'll recognize the state and it'll dawn on you, 'ah, so THIS is what they were talking about?' (Not at the time, but when you come down a little. You're not really able to form rational thoughts in this state.) I think it has some cache because prior to the widespread use of LSD, it was something that you really only heard about from mystics and aesthetics who'd ploughed enormous amounts of intellectual and spiritual effort into achieving that state.

But all of that should have fallen away when it became something that was available to anyone who could afford 50p for a tab of acid. But there's nothing drug users love more than talking about their drug experiences, so for the last fifty or sixty years, every verbose know-nothing halfwit has decided the rest of us need to know what happened when they took psychedelics.

Nobody cares, you're not special, it happens to everyone. Go fuck yourself.

Yes, but what is actually going on in the brain? Unable to retrieve memories, depersonalization, etc? I'm not reading too much into this because most psychedelic users (except an awesome nerdy minority!) are all into the mumbo-jumbo and "healing" and spirituality and shit. "Ego death" is a very loaded phrase and "ego" is not at all a valid psychological concept really. There is no such thing called an "ego."