Greta Gustava Martela / Kjel Anderson & Nina Chaubal / Niraj Chaubal - Stole $350k+ from Trans Lifeline, kill count of 2+ from negligence, Founders of Sisterwood/La Zorra.

I don't know much about running a business, but 5 fucking million dollars in yearly expenses sounds insane for what's basically a glorified call center manned (hehe) by random unqualified and untrained troons. The numbers don't add up. I'm sure Pajeets run way bigger operations at a minuscule fraction of the cost.
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That doesn't seem to be the case since corporations dropping support put TL in a 2.5 million dollar hole. Nice to see Wikipedia hosting blatant lies while deleting any comment about the embezzlement controversy for lack of "proper sources". While just putting down whatever some troon at the helm said on a random podcast.
Also if you are 2.5 million in the red I don't see how asking for 50k monthly is going to be anything more that a drop in an empty bucket. To me it's just more proof that this thing could be run on peanuts if they were honest.

To me it just sounds like Troons taking advantage of Troons and Troon-friendly corporations to get a salary doing basically nothing and feeling good about themselves. Still, not bad for a grift, the only problem is that it's proof that the main export from the republic of troon is suicide and suicide accessories.
 
This is indicative that the corporate support is drying up for tranny shit in general. Interest rates are up, ESG is closing (rebranding), and the rainbow flag is toxic branding.

Gravy train's over, time to get a job.
and we know why that is.
Corporations only care about one thing, and that is money. it is why they exist. ESG's, troon loving and other woke bs has been a money loser for them. It doesn't make any business sense to lose mony and piss off the general public for a fanbase that off itself at a rate of 41% and represents less than 1%.
Just ask corporate juggernauts like bud lite, target, Disney, netflix, e.t.c
Even just before those cockups, DEI's were getting kicked to the curb at a record pace.
 
I find it amusing that such a 'vital' service, known for its abject and obvious corruption and non 0 death count is totally at the whims of the people who claim to need it, and how have they responded? By ignoring it. Where is their good friend, independently wealthy, serial consent accident enjoyer Mr. Fong-Jones? He has more than enough idle money to bail them out, where is the 350k that was supposed to be reimbursed? Troons are voracious cannibals, and their preferred dish is their own kind.
 
Becoming a volunteer operator for trans lifeline would be an excellent opportunity for a investigative journalist or dedicated Kiwi operative.

Imagine collecting data and listening to random 41% club members for a month or so, then on your last day you start giving based honest advice to every tranny that calls in. Given the QA and oversight at TransDeathLine I’d bet you could give realistic, honest advice for days before anyone caught wind of it and then only due to all the (very alive) trannies shrieking online about not being validated by TLL.
 
I don't know much about running a business, but 5 fucking million dollars in yearly expenses sounds insane for what's basically a glorified call center manned (hehe) by random unqualified and untrained troons. The numbers don't add up. I'm sure Pajeets run way bigger operations at a minuscule fraction of the cost.
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That doesn't seem to be the case since corporations dropping support put TL in a 2.5 million dollar hole. Nice to see Wikipedia hosting blatant lies while deleting any comment about the embezzlement controversy for lack of "proper sources". While just putting down whatever some troon at the helm said on a random podcast.
Also if you are 2.5 million in the red I don't see how asking for 50k monthly is going to be anything more that a drop in an empty bucket. To me it's just more proof that this thing could be run on peanuts if they were honest.

To me it just sounds like Troons taking advantage of Troons and Troon-friendly corporations to get a salary doing basically nothing and feeling good about themselves. Still, not bad for a grift, the only problem is that it's proof that the main export from the republic of troon is suicide and suicide accessories.
This is why they always have to beg for money monthly because no organization wants to fund a site that's just misinformation that Universities still tell you to avoid like the plague. If an organization wants to fund misinformation they'll by a newspaper.
Wonder if the guy from Tolarian Community College will try to fundraise for them so that they have more money to embezzle.
People still watch him?
 
2.5 million tells me this drop in funding outscales their spending/embezzlement by several hundred thousand dollars per month. Like every major NGO or other donor collectively canceled their donations all at the same time. And even if the drop """"""""only""""""" outscaled their spending by several hundred thousand dollars per month, the cancellations must have happened at least half a year ago....the dylan mulvaney bud light ad campaign happened in april 2023 right?

My sweeping inference from that is that among NGOs and banks, there used to be this idea that dumping money into money sinks is still worth it as long as it promotes trannies because it's an investment in future profits, and then when normalfags en masse were exposed to trannyshit like this, someone in the investment aggregation industry suddenly decided that this was not the case and is now trimming the fat.

Well that, and the economy being in slow-down mode compared to the past 5-10 years means corporations have to trim fat and show a decent YOE return. So a lot of DEI programs have slowly been shuttered or neutered as well.
 
TransLifeline might be officially closing their doors
With roughly $4 million still left in the bank as of the start of 2023, I'm not ready to sound the death knell quite yet. However, their tax return figures and latest announcement are quite telling.

This is indicative that the corporate support is drying up for tranny shit in general.
We will see if this is true when the next Pride month (and related days, weeks, and months) come around again. However, it's probably easier for Corporate America to post a rainbow-colored logo than it is to donate money that draws public scrutiny.

Speaking of which, how much money did he embezzle from them? Would there be a way for them to tell their creditors he's got their money?
From what I recall, Greta and Nina embezzled $350 000. I don't recall how much they paid back, but I'm impressed they paid any of it back with TLL's reluctance to prosecute or enforce the restitution agreement. Still, that embezzled money would help them short-term if not long-term.

We got to watch while they went from successfully grifting celebs like Miley Cyrus, to trying to threaten Null while he was dropping a deuce, to exposing their embezzlement and getting Kjel and Niraj to resign in disgrace, watch those two retards try to build a troon compound in the desert in a shipping container, and now to watch Trans Lifeline close up shop.
I knew TLL was touted by celebs, but I couldn't remember by whom. Thanks, @JULAY. I'm having a hard time believing anti-trans sentiment is the cause of TLL's financial woes when they are based out of a trans-friendly part of California. I'd be more inclined to believe the average donor has less disposable income due to inflation and stagnant wages along with corporations donating less money to charitable causes as they take in less money from whatever source. Is it possible more people are peaking and not as supportive of trans folks who are more interested in degeneracy than getting along with people? Yes, but I'd believe it more if they operated in a red area and not a deep blue one.

I can't help but think the new operators were almost as bad as Greta and that third worlder they had as a partner.
Apart from not embezzling funds as blatantly as Greta and Nina, I suspect very little changed from a day-to-day operational standpoint.

Isn't LFJ a millionaire? Certainly she can spare a couple grand at least to throw at the reason she picked a fight with the farms in the first place.
NGL, I'd suspect LFJ would blame the Farms for TLL's woes and demise if and when the latter happens.

All in all $5,339,094 in total expenses in 2022 compared to $3,427,926 in 2021 so one has to wonder what has been happening throughout this year.

3. Travels and meals spending increased more then double in 2022 compared to as it was in 2021.
Even with the cost of everything increasing over the past couple of years due to inflation and supply issues, my gut instinct is that TLL continued to spend money freely when costs increased and had neither internal controls nor a plan for dealing with decreased revenues.
"We haven't heard anything good about them actually. We just listed them with the rest of the crisis lines. If a trans client needs help it's probably better to refer them somewhere local where they can actually get help."
I know people that virtue signal out of obligation and the fear of being cancelled - especially if they live in liberal area that fully embrace social justice - while telling their based friends that it's all a bunch of garbage. With that in mind, it makes sense that people are listing TLL as one crisis line out of many while privately having the opinion that they're so awful nobody would seriously recommend them to a trans person needing help from a hotline operator.

Becoming a volunteer operator for trans lifeline would be an excellent opportunity for a investigative journalist or dedicated Kiwi operative.
Some time ago, someone did an experiment where they called TLL from various burner phones at various times to see how many calls would be answered and how the operators would handle the call. TL; DR - The answer rate was abysmal; I believe at least one call went to voice mail because nobody answered the call during a time volunteers were supposed to be available; and at least one operator was anything but helpful. In that instance, the caller stated they questioned their gender identity. The operator reply was along the lines of, "Well call back once you figure it out."

I didn't scan the 2022 tax return too closely since people have already brought up many of the figures it contains. However, I did note the following:
  • The average amount for a name change microgrant was $635 per person. I'm not sure how much it costs, but $635 seems a bit high for a "microgrant" unless I'm misunderstanding the concept.
  • The people who received money for gender affirming hair removal averaged $1500 per person. Yaniv would be jealous.
Will TLL cease operations, or is this just a doomer ploy intended to scare orbiters into donating more? Either way, this is going to be fun to watch.
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Nice to see Wikipedia hosting blatant lies while deleting any comment about the embezzlement controversy for lack of "proper sources". While just putting down whatever some troon at the helm said on a random podcast.
Shortly after Elon Musk bought twitter, I noticed that their e-begging popup had the headline "WIKIPEDIA IS NOT FOR SALE!!!"

Wikipedia may just be worse than twatter.
 
Did they ever actually improve their abysmal answer rate and training for volunteers? If not, shuttering might be for the best.
Are you kidding? What if someone takes over who doesn't just use it as a paycheck and actually tries to stop trannies from 41% themselves? That would mean more living trannies - terrible idea.

I can get the need for specific hotlines for minority populations
Only reason minority populations need specific Suicide Hotlines is if by calling said hotline they are getting specialized, culturally appropriate ways to kill themselves.
Train timetables for Japanese, mob bosses to inform on for Italians & Slavs, explosives help for arabs, help opening a liquor store on MLK Blvd for Koreans, etc.
 
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From what I recall, Greta and Nina embezzled $350 000. I don't recall how much they paid back, but I'm impressed they paid any of it back with TLL's reluctance to prosecute or enforce the restitution agreement. Still, that embezzled money would help them short-term if not long-term.
If they were smart, they'd have tacked interest on that money. If not, well I wouldn't be surprised. You don't show any leniency towards someone like that.
 
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To me it just sounds like Troons taking advantage of Troons and Troon-friendly corporations to get a salary doing basically nothing and feeling good about themselves.
I mean its a better use of the cash than actually doing something to stop trannies from offing themselves.

If they were smart, they'd have tacked interest on that money. If not, well I wouldn't be surprised. You don't show any leniency towards someone like that.
They buried the whole thing as deeply and quietly as they could because they knew the taint of scandal would fuck with their ability to grift.
 
They got out at nearly the right time if TLL is complaining about the funding drying up. Now they get to be the people that started TLL and not the ones that have to bury it.
They are getting a bunch of donations off this drive.
Id place a sizeable amount bet they will shut up shop regardless, this will be one last cast of the rod. 'mucho soz, but it just wasn't enough! this will cover our shuttering expenses, uwu'

couple of weeks just to rinse it clean, then bye bye.
with a note to the number for a real suicide hotline.
the money that was donated wont be forwarded on.
 
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Maybe I dont know anything but... man that seems like a ton of money for literally nothing. Mind you I'm not part of any charity grift (maybe I should be though).

But let's say this place pays by the hour 1099, no benefits.
You reach 100k salary which outside of super high cost cities is damn respectable, in some places quite good. Somewhere around 50 an hour. That's generously assuming they pay that or some lower w2 equivalent to answer calls all 40 hours.

4 full time people covers 160 hours a week with no overlap. 8 full time people covers 2 people on at any given time (shy like 16 hours a week here)

So heck it let's just say 10 full time call people, a manager of those 10 who also gets 100k and then let's say there's a couple part time "leaders" or organizers at 50k a pop and any role like payroll is just out sourced like a sane small company.

Were looking at what - 1.2mil in payroll and some expenses on top.

And that gets you at worst a functioning line 24/7 maybe minus some odd people got sick or nobody will work a holiday days. But functioning. Call volume would inform peak hours and how bad wait time is for this.

And thats *good* money per hour for everybody and a fraction of their burn per year. I doubt they're paying that high except the top and that makes this even stupider to me. If the volunteer staffing with a fund for phone and headset and internet is all they get this is even more dumb.

I know people who do a lot more work for a lot less, and sometimes for a whole lot less if it's a cause they believe in.

I suppose I'm autistic but I dont see how the math adds up.
 
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