Off-Topic Scrambled Eggs: Kiwi Farms Detransitioner and Desister General

[Procrastinhater]

People only detrans cause they didn't get enough attention when trooning out.

In some cases perhaps yes.
There are people for whom the entire purpose of detransitioning is attention.
They tend to be the MtFtMtF lunatics like Isaac that are constantly de/re-transitioning, and are easily identified by that and distinguished from genuine detransitioners who realize their mistake.

It's also possible for people to make genuine, life altering mistakes, especially when they're young and naive and the medical professionals they go to for help are ideological fanatics that railroad them into the wrong path.
If they realize their mistake and want to fix it they should be supported.

At the end of the day active trannies are harmful to society and other people, they are compelled to spread their social contagion.
Detransitioners aren't harmful, even if it is about attention seeking (something I'm not convinced of outside the histrionic BPD psychos like Isaac and his type as they still get far more ass pats as troons than as detransitioners) its better to have increasing numbers of detransitioners than increasing numbers of troons.

 

[JULAY]

All I can say is that if you were groomed into this cult by adults who got a sexual charge out of "pink-pilling" children, you really need to report them so they can't continue to victimize others.

And if you have irreversible damage to your body that was caused by wrong-sex hormones and/or mutilating surgeries, you should strongly consider suing the ever loving fuck out of any and all medical professionals who played a role in hurting you.

 

[4EB]

Those people are still at risk for falling on another brainrot and definitely should pursue their mental health with therapists, not lgbtbbq+/- mob.

I feel that therapist in some areas are also just as responsible for people trooning out. They might not put the idea in their heads, but they probably don't dissuade people from immediately transitioning as soon as the idea comes to them. I guess that all depends where you live with left leaning areas being more likely to have that happen.

 

[Berserker Armor]

All I can say is that if you were groomed into this cult by adults who got a sexual charge out of "pink-pilling" children, you really need to report them so they can't continue to victimize others.

And if you have irreversible damage to your body that was caused by wrong-sex hormones and/or mutilating surgeries, you should strongly consider suing the ever loving fuck out of any and all medical professionals who played a role in hurting you.

As much as I agree with this. It’s harder than it sounds. In the other thread there’s some lawsuits (for the medical on) but that doesn’t mean they are going anywhere. The first one tho… I think it will be a long time.

people troon out because they want brownie points or are coomers
like only one-third of detrannies were duped into the idea

This is 100% on the nose. It is now what they tell anyone who is insecure in any way. Especially if it’s gender related. are you a woman and insecure in your woman hood? You are a man. Are you a man and don’t feel like enough of one? You are a woman. I would say now in the current state of things 90% of the “trans community” are brownie pointers and coomers. 5% are those who were honest to god duped.

In some cases perhaps yes.
There are people for whom the entire purpose of detransitioning is attention.
They tend to be the MtFtMtF lunatics like Isaac that are constantly de/re-transitioning, and are easily identified by that and distinguished from genuine detransitioners who realize their mistake.

It's also possible for people to make genuine, life altering mistakes, especially when they're young and naive and the medical professionals they go to for help are ideological fanatics that railroad them into the wrong path.
If they realize their mistake and want to fix it they should be supported.

At the end of the day active trannies are harmful to society and other people, they are compelled to spread their social contagion.
Detransitioners aren't harmful, even if it is about attention seeking (something I'm not convinced of outside the histrionic BPD psychos like Isaac and his type as they still get far more ass pats as troons than as detransitioners) its better to have increasing numbers of detransitioners than increasing numbers of troons.

I would also like to say this: a lot of us who have talked about it here were young when entering and young when leaving.
Managed to escape for the most part unscathed. This was a concept brought to us as teenagers. When it started gaining traction it was at teenagers and adults. Now it is a concept being brought to children and teenagers and adults. I will admit only recently fully rejecting it but I have been slowly coming out of it for the last 2 years or so. It was because I was introduced to this pretty early. It was all I knew for a LONG time.
Attention seeking people slowly realized how they could use it to their advantage as people were being convinced something was wrong with them that wasn’t. Coomers are another story. Once the minority, now the majority. Out there are still people being told they are what they aren’t. When really they are just having mental health issues that are much more fixable. Not with hormones and surgery.
Attention seeking trannies who detrans for attention are doing themselves a favor. also is something I don’t get. (Note to self read Issac’s thread)

 

[Pilgrim of Grace]

Not trans or detrans, but wanted to drop a note of encouragement to those of you out there that are within those groups.

I had a small taste of the fear and horror Detrans people go through via helping a friend. Most shocking was how abruptly a detrans' former friends turned on them--it was on a fucking dime, and the turn was partnered with absolutely psychotic vitriolic hatred. Those friends are not your friends. You can find other people to connect with, whether that is on The Farms or elsewhere. Some people, here or elsewhere, may even be able to help.

Not everyone here is a rabid troon hater; some understand that many trans/detrans people are just people trying to figure themselves out and got caught up in something far more complicated (and malevolent).

I'd like to tell you The Farms is a safe place, but others have pointed this out: The Farms' enemies are numerous and determined. These selfsame enemies are the ones that would pursue you with pitchforks & torches for daring to go against their gender ideology. Guard your personal information well.

Spoiler: stoary

I helped a friend Detrans last year--specifically, separate herself from the Rainbow Crowd and get her off Test. It took many months and, regrettably, an event that seriously hurt her before she realized the trans community was effectively grooming her. In the process of re-discovering her femininity and getting off hormones, she lost a significant portion of her friends as a reward for going against the Rainbow Crowd. She received threats, some of which were acted upon.

 

[monstrous bubo]

I’m not detrans, but I’m glad this thread exists and that you have somewhere to talk without Big Trans shitting on you. Thank you for letting us ask questions. Speaking of which…

One of the problems with data collection on detrans rates is that detrans patients don’t stay with the doctors who treated them.

1. Did you ever discuss detransition with those doctors? If so, what was their reaction?

2. Did you cut ties with all doctors who were part of your transition (including family doctor)?

3. Was it hard to find medical treatment to assist with any post-transition issues (physical or mental)?

4. Have you ever participated in any data collection relating to your detransition?

Thank you for any answers in advance.

ETA corrected question 1 to detransition

 

[Procrastinhater]

people troon out because they want brownie points or are coomers
like only one-third of detrannies were duped into the idea

I'd be surprised if it was as many as one third tbh.
I'd bet the vast majority are coomers and porn rotted fetishists.

 

[InsulindianPhasmid]

I’m glad this thread exists for any detrans/ resisters who want to talk about their experiences. It’s helpful for others to understand what made you think you were trans and what eventually caused you to change your mind.

Please be mindful of not sharing anything too identifiable, and also make sure you post on here using a different name and email address from any other sites you may have used in the past. Loads of the cows on the site have had their most embarrassing stuff dig up due to using the same names on every platform.

 

[Berserker Armor]

I answered some questions on the other thread that I need to bring from there to here. Haven’t had the time to get on PC to do so

2. Did you cut ties with all doctors who were part of your transition (including family doctor)?

Yes. Thankfully moving did help in that factor. I was also aging out of the clinic and would have moved to the adult one. I moved so I couldn’t. Thank god.

1. Did you ever discuss transition with those doctors? If so, what was their reaction?

I was actually referred to and in a clinic just for transgender preteen and teenagers. I am sure they accept children now…
These are more common than it was then so it was hard to get into. They did bring up me transitioning early to my mom who rejected the idea. I later did go on hormones as a young adult after they approved it. I have a heart issue and was “clearly medically” with no cardiologist being asked or work up or anything. I didn’t question it (should have). I thought they knew what they were doing. They had very little focus on mental health resources also. Despite being a clinic focused around a mental health issue. They let you go off the deep end basically.
This was my preteen years until late teens/early adulthood.

3. Was it hard to find medical treatment to assist with any post-transition issues (physical or mental)?

Tbh? No. On the medical at least. It’s pretty easy to be up front about it and just get the issue fixed.
Mental is hit or miss. They will grill you on the gender thing regardless. They will ask you more if you are sure about not being transgender anymore than they being trans. You tell them you are trans and they go on their merry way about it. I can say in different areas may be different. I am on the east coast so. It was weirdly surprising for it to be that way.

4. Have you ever participated in any data collection relating to your detransition?

Would like to tbh.

Not trans or detrans, but wanted to drop a note of encouragement to those of you out there that are within those groups.

I had a small taste of the fear and horror Detrans people go through via helping a friend. Most shocking was how abruptly a detrans' former friends turned on them--it was on a fucking dime, and the turn was partnered with absolutely psychotic vitriolic hatred. Those friends are not your friends. You can find other people to connect with, whether that is on The Farms or elsewhere. Some people, here or elsewhere, may even be able to help.

Not everyone here is a rabid troon hater; some understand that many trans/detrans people are just people trying to figure themselves out and got caught up in something far more complicated (and malevolent).

I'd like to tell you The Farms is a safe place, but others have pointed this out: The Farms' enemies are numerous and determined. These selfsame enemies are the ones that would pursue you with pitchforks & torches for daring to go against their gender ideology. Guard your personal information well.

Spoiler: stoary

I helped a friend Detrans last year--specifically, separate herself from the Rainbow Crowd and get her off Test. It took many months and, regrettably, an event that seriously hurt her before she realized the trans community was effectively grooming her. In the process of re-discovering her femininity and getting off hormones, she lost a significant portion of her friends as a reward for going against the Rainbow Crowd. She received threats, some of which were acted upon.

Dude you are a true friend for doing that. I hate to hear that she was threatened and genuinely actually hurt by it tho. I hope she is able to become herself more and more.

I am committing social suicide by detrans-ing but it’s worth it in the end.

I should be fine. I may change some stuff on kiwi to double check. Privacy is important, so is anonymity on this board. It’s to protect us not from other kiwis but cows also. Some got serious rabies and will go further than farmers have or will.
I encourage anyone else who is posting here who is detrans to do the same. Make sure your defenses are a bit more iron.
My social life will soon be kamikazed by me saying I am not trans so.. anti-kiwi troons are the last thing I also need.

 

[The Evil Midnight Bomber]

Trannies are so obsessive and deranged that Kiwifarms seems like a more welcoming place to detransitioners than the tranny controlled mainstream web. So much for the tolerant left.

 

[Aztec Death Squad]

Trans people deserve a way out other than the rope. Very few will leave a cult if it means their death. Look at Islam.

To the detransitioners: You've escaped with your life, don't look back.

 

[I'm Retarded?]

to all detrannies in this thread and elsewhere, condolences for your pain, and godspeed on your journey. starting a new era is rarely easy especially when it's deeply tied into social politics. learning who you are is a lifelong process, and remember that anybody who shuns you for searching is not your friend. the people you spend time around have a deep effect on your behavior and mental health. be judicious of the company you keep and guard yourself against shitheads.

 

[JULAY]

I am committing social suicide by detrans-ing but it’s worth it in the end.

It might feel that way now, but you're still young, and look on the bright side:

The new friends that you make will be much more stable people, and will actually be your friends, not contingent on whether or not you are a part of the alphabet crowd.

 

[Jacques1194]

I guess i have one other question for any detrans person who sees this.Where do you see the trans movement in the next 10 years?Many TRAs are confident that because so many teenagers are into gender that trans will be majorly accepted, and detrans people will be seen in the same light as ex gays.As for me, i honestly don't see it.Yes teens are obsessed with gender and it is sad that some are groomed to transition, but i can tell you that the majority of teenagers that i've seen are mostly those weirdos who say they're non binary or genderfluid, and do nothing with their bodies(even my own cousin is like this).I personally hope that those lawsuits continue to grow more and more until it becomes more mainstream, but since the MSM is current on the pro trans bandwagon there will be more attempts to censor.

 

[Dagoth AMOGUS]

I really can't blame people who get sucked into transitioning when there are almost no voices allowed to dissent from transgenderism. And I think it's worse in America than other countries.

From the late 40s through 60s, America marveled at science after we created the atomic bomb, and then made plans to go to the moon. There became a great respect and unshakable trust in experts and scientists. This was also during the baby boom, when many of The Silent Generation came home from war and had kids. The military is a very orderly and structured bureaucracy, where once again, respect and trust for those above you wasn't optional. And this way of thinking was impressed upon boomers and Xers. That's why we were enamored with police and military for so long. This practically reached a fever pitch in 2001 after 9/11, and there were examples throughout the previous decades of Americans having no tolerance for law-breakers, and trusting authority.

The term "trust the science" is a meme now, but it wasn't always a joke. Those who scoffed at scientists and experts were seen as flat-earthers, nutcases, or modern heretics. Adults with this mentality, and the kids they raise? I'm surprised they even have a chance anymore to think for themselves. And for that I truly feel bad, because the only way to resist such mob-hysteria is to become a simple, cynical contrarian. And it's not fun.

 

[Onni Kalsarikännit]

tbh that's one of the few topics I somehow would not have expected to see here. Detrans kiwis. Maybe I'm just to naive or ignorant, idk. But more power to you and I honestly hope 1. you people get your lifes back on track and 2. this thread doesn't get derailed too much.

 

[Doktor Grimm]

i strongly advise against sharing your personal life stories like that on a forum like this

Yeah, probably should have been more clear about this in the OP, will make an edit now. I encourage people to share their own experiences here, and I understand the need to speak about these things, but I'd avoid going into extra detail where it isn't strictly necessary. Posters in the other venting threads seem to manage this well enough. Be careful, guys.

I would say now in the current state of things 90% of the “trans community” are brownie pointers and coomers. 5% are those who were honest to god duped.

It's definitely the overwhelming proportion of sex goblins who have kept this movement going for as long as it has. They have far less of an incentive to detransition because they never felt as if transition was their only choice - for them, being trans is just an excuse for them to exercise their fetishes in a socially acceptable manner, as opposed to a misguided solution to their body image issues. (Hence why the majority of detransers are women. How strange.)

I guess there's also the kids who are just riding a social trend, but they're rarely that committed and tend to just silently desist and move on. Seems like somewhat of a dying breed in the post-COVID era though. Funny how those people were the bane of my existence back in my "true trans" days, but now I wish I could have been one of them.

Not trans or detrans, but wanted to drop a note of encouragement to those of you out there that are within those groups.

I had a small taste of the fear and horror Detrans people go through via helping a friend. Most shocking was how abruptly a detrans' former friends turned on them--it was on a fucking dime, and the turn was partnered with absolutely psychotic vitriolic hatred. Those friends are not your friends. You can find other people to connect with, whether that is on The Farms or elsewhere. Some people, here or elsewhere, may even be able to help.

Thanks for stopping by. It's great to hear about your friend. Looking back, I think one of the major catalysts for my own detransition was ending up with a group of people who valued me outside of gender nonsense, friends that I knew I could rely upon when the time came. It's rare for a trans person to have connections outside of those circles; I consider myself lucky in that regard. Quitting is tough at first until you realise that none of the people who enabled your transition are worth missing. No doubt your friend is glad you were there for her.

 

[Lieutenant Rasczak]

Biological sex cannot be changed -- not even with "gender reassignment" surgery -- and "gender" is a delusional concept that was started by the allegedly sick John Money.

I personally believe the modern conception of gender is pseudoscience and is the progressive intersectionalist equivalent to creationism. Also the modern conception of gender comes from a Freudian psychologist named Robert J. Stoller, not John Money. A part of this op-ed that I saw explains in better detail.

 

[Bubble Ba'ath]

I just wish there was a space where we could actually tell these stories without fear.

Your story really just underscores how happy I am that I came of age/realized I was into my own gender more in this very fortunate time period after rampant rightoid homophobia was the norm and before this current phase of rampant leftoid homophobia. I have zero fear that time swapped me would have trooned out, I have too much of a rooted sense of self/materialist world view for that. But rather I suspect I would have been bombarded with peer pressure to do so, which would have made me extremely resentful. Thats nowhere near as bad as what you went through, of course, but its still sounds like such an unnecessary annoyance.

 

[AgendaPoster]

Consequently, an increasing number of detransitioners - myself included - are seeking refuge on the Farms after being shunned from their former online circles

What are you detransing from.
Have you considered suing your medics or whomever set you on this road? Maybe together with other detrans people?
What other shitlib and progressive holy cows have you started to have questions about after seeing the lies and propaganda around gender? Or have you remained progressive, minus the transitioning bit.