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[Breadbassket]

If (((they))) had been smart they would have fully enabled and strengthened the American Christian base and promoted WASP Christian nuclear families as hard as they fucking could have.

That would of definitely been a big reversal of the trend in the 20th century. There was a period of time when WASPs and American Jews didn't really like each other or at the very least the former didn't really care for the latter apparently. Also it must be remembered that Jewish people would try to team up with other minorities "to fight the power".

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History of Anti-Semitism in America: Collections

Anti-Semitism has been a constant presence throughout American Jewish history, and that presence can be explored using Gale's Political Extremism and Radicalism series. America's founders imagined a country free from religious persecution, guaranteed in the religious freedoms promised by the Bill of Rights upon its approval in 1791. States’ rights would trump this vision of religious freedom, however, as limitations were imposed against religious minorities, including Jews. From the moment they first arrived at the colony of New Amsterdam (New York), Dutch governor Peter Stuyvesant petitioned to have them removed, but the financial benefits of Jewish mercantile networks prevailed. They were publicly denied worship unless they embraced Christianity and the church; however, as synagogues began to spring up, out of economic necessity, Judaism was quietly tolerated.

Despite their early success in the Americas, Jewish people continued to live as outsiders, religiously condemned by Christians, and became the target of racial tropes that persist even today. Their religious practice, unique accents, and surnames led to scapegoating based on age-old stereotypes that found their origins in Europe long ago. During the Civil War conflict, anti-Jewish intolerance was rampant among the Union and the Confederacy, with accusations that Jewish people were helping the opposing side of the conflict as well as selling military supplies at inflated prices to make a profit.

Despite the undercurrent of anti-Semitism that persisted in American life, Jewish communities flourished. Two million Jews entered the country between 1881 and 1914, escaping poverty and numerous Pogroms in Europe that proved to be financially and personally devastating. Upon their arrival, they were often met with fear and resentment, for their mannerisms, customs, way of life, and perceived successes as they rose both personally and professionally. So, naturally, during economic downturns conspiracy theories surfaced of financial markets and government exploitation by Jews, who were believed to be corrupt international financiers.

These tensions continued to grow, resulting in very public displays of American anti-Semitism, as declarations of Aryan superiority grew louder. In 1913, an angry mob looked to Jewishness to convict Leo Frank, a 29-year-old Jewish factory superintendent, of murdering a young female coworker in Atlanta, Georgia. After the governor reduced his sentence to life imprisonment, the mob, riding a wave of anti-Semitic sentiment, abducted Frank and lynched him. American Jewish citizens were becoming increasingly anxious over society’s unwillingness to protect them from extreme prejudice. Mob violence escalated during World War I as Americans feared the influence of foreign nations and the spread of Bolshevism, attributing these negative influences on Jewish citizens.

American anti-Semitism post-World War I inspired quotas restricting Jewish students from attending institutions of higher learning, despite their qualifications, and also led to their exclusion from certain universities, neighborhoods, hotels, and clubs. Harvard, Yale, Princeton, and other institutions of higher learning limited the enrollment of Jews to discourage the rise of anti-Semitism. Prominent figures also came forward. Henry Ford, known for his anti-Semitism, published a newspaper in the 1920s in Dearborn, Michigan called The Dearborn that was riddled with anti-Semitic tropes and propaganda. He believed Jewish people sought to control the world by commerce and exchange, beliefs which were praised in Hitler’s treatise, Mein Kampf.

WASPs, Jews and Elite Failure

In two intriguing, counterintuitive essays on America’s elites, political scientist Samuel Goldman argues that WASPs, though they fell from power, won by creating institutions that house the country’s establishments, while Jews, who “occupy some of the most influential positions in American life” and are in many ways the “successors to the WASPs,” lost in becoming bland, apparatchik-like custodians of American institutional authority.

In “joining and ultimately displacing WASPs in their academic and other bastions,” Goldman writes, Jews lost their “vitality” and “distinctive identity.” As Saul Bellow gave way to Stephen Breyer, Jews became, in this reading, not so much synthetic WASPs as etiolated hybrids. “The elite, the professions,” journalist Ben Judah writes in a masterly essay on how American Jews lost themselves, “feel if anything WASP-Jewish.” The delicate dance drained both parties of their lifeblood.

It’s the other side of meritocratic assimilation, the success stories, that make up the American Dream. The admirable ecumenical tolerance of today’s elites has been purchased, Goldman and Judah suggest, at the price of homogenization and sterility—so many sacrifices of cultural virtù as people with different traditions, tastes, and repulsions try to get along with each other at work.

When WASPs held all the cards, they initially resisted elite assimilation. Their cartel was premised on keeping the stranger out, and they were especially wary of Jews. The egregious cases—Edith Wharton (whose depiction of Simon Rosedale in The House of Mirth is a tissue of anti-Semitic clichés), T. S. Eliot (fixing, as Milton had done, on “the dark idolatries of alienated Judah”), are perhaps less troubling than the milder, unexpected ones: Theodore Roosevelt, in a fit of pique, denouncing The New Republic as the work of “three anemic Gentiles and three international Jews,” or Eleanor Roosevelt describing a “Jew party” in Bernard Baruch’s house that seemed to her “appalling.”

A Brief History of Jews and the Civil Rights Movement of the 1960s

American Jews played a significant role in the founding and funding of some of the most important civil rights organizations, including the NAACP, the Leadership Conference on Civil and Human Rights, the Southern Christian Leadership Conference (SCLC) and the Student Nonviolent Coordinating Committee (SNCC).

In 1909, Henry Moscowitz joined W.E.B. DuBois and other civil rights leaders to found the NAACP. Kivie Kaplan, a vice-chairman of the Union of American Hebrew Congregations (now the Union for Reform Judaism), served as the national president of the NAACP from 1966 to 1975. Arnie Aronson worked with A. Philip Randolph and Roy Wilkins to found the Leadership Conference.

From 1910 to 1940, more than 2,000 primary and secondary schools and 20 Black colleges (including Howard, Dillard and Fisk universities) were established in whole or in part by contributions from Jewish philanthropist Julius Rosenwald. At the height of the so-called "Rosenwald schools," nearly 40 percent of Black people in the south were educated at one of these institutions.

During the Civil Rights Movement, Jewish activists represented a disproportionate number of white people involved in the struggle. Jews made up half of the young people who participated in the Mississippi Freedom Summer in 1964. Leaders of the Reform Movement were arrested with Rev. Dr. Martin Luther King, Jr. in St. Augustine, Florida, in 1964 after a challenge to racial segregation in public accommodations. Most famously, Rabbi Abraham Joshua Heschel marched arm-in-arm with Dr. King in his 1965 March on Selma.

Jews in the Civil Rights Movement

Nowhere did Jews identify themselves more forthrightly with the liberal avant-garde than in the Civil Rights movement of the 1960s. It was an uneven identification. For Jews living in the South, the issue of racial integration posed unsettling questions. They constituted barely one percent of the region’s total population. Among their white neighbors, they had long been accepted as “honorary white Protestants.”

Even Senator Theodore Bilbo of Mississippi was prepared to draw distinctions between Northern Jews and “good” Southern Jews. The latter were circumspect, in any case, unprepared to question the South’s social order.

As far back as the 19th century, Jewish storekeepers were virtually the only Southern merchants who addressed black customers as “Mr.” and “Mrs.” and permitted them to try on clothing. By the early 20th century, a few Southern Jews even ventured to speak out against the evils of white supremacy. In 1929, Louis Isaac Jaffe, editorial writer for the Norfolk Virginia-Pilot won the Pulitzer Prize for his denunciation of lynching and the reactionary Harry Byrd political machine.

Julius Rosenwald chairman of Sears Roebuck, contributed more generously in behalf of Southern blacks than did any philanthropist in American history. Rosenwald was Chicagoan, but his munificence was continued by his daughter, Edith Stern of New Orleans, whose Stern Family Fund in later years contributed vast sums to civil rights activities in the South. It was known, too, that Southern Jews privately tended to be more liberal on the race issue than Southern gentiles, and often quietly provided manpower and funds for civil rights causes.

More than any other factor, it was the participation of Northern Jews in the Civil Rights movement that tapped that residue. These were the people, it is recalled, who were the earliest supporters of the fledgling National Association for the Advancement of Colored People. In 1914, Professor Emeritus Joel Spingarn of Columbia University became chairman of the NAACP and recruited for its board such Jewish leaders as Jacob Schiff, Jacob Billikopf, and Rabbi Stephen Wise.

Jews also were the earliest supporters of the Urban League, founded in New York in 1911 to help newly arrived black migrants from the rural South. The International Ladies Garment Workers Union and the Amalgamated Clothing Workers took the lead in organizing “our black brothers” for union membership (over the opposition of the American Federation of Labor national board). And, in the climactic civil rights drives of the 1950s and 1960s, Jewish participation was all but overwhelming.

In the landmark 1954 Brown v. Board of Education ruling itself, the Supreme Court accepted the research of the black sociologist Kenneth Clark that segregation placed the stamp of inferiority on black children. Clark’s study had been commissioned by the American Jewish Committee, and it appeared in the amicus curiae brief the Committee submitted to the court. The Anti-Defamation League and the American Jewish Congress also submitted amicus curiae briefs in behalf of the cause. Once the judgment was issued, these Jewish defense organizations continued to file legal briefs in civil rights cases dealing with housing, employment, education, and public accommodation. Many local and state desegregation regulations actually were drafted in the offices of the Jewish agencies.

Jewish Organizations Had A Role In 1965 Act

In dismissing my argument that Jewish organizations have been disproportionately influential in U.S. immigration policy, Abraham Miller fails to confront the data compiled in my 1998 book “The Culture of Critique,” which also describes changes in academic attitudes on race critical to passage of the 1965 Immigration Act (“The Theory Behind That Charlottesville Slogan,” op-ed, April 3). It was absolutely understood by both restrictionists and antirestrictionists in Congress that Jewish organizations spearheaded opposition against the 1924 law’s national origins, despite little public support. Jewish organizations also organized, funded and performed most of the work of a variety of umbrella organizations aimed at combating the 1924 law. The 1965 reform was thus not the result of popular pressure but rather of a 40-year program of activism.

Rep. Michael Feighan did indeed shape family based immigration in the 1965 law. But family based, rather than skills-based immigration, had been advocated by Jewish organizations since at least the 1920s. Feighan would be horrified at the results given his long record of support for the 1924 law (see NPR.org: “In 1965 A Conservative Tried to Keep America White. His Plan Backfired”). He may well have been deceived by the 1965 reform’s proponents, who insisted it wouldn’t change the ethnic balance of the U.S. by dramatically increasing non-European immigration.

Jewish Involvement in Shaping American Immigration Policy, 1881-1965: A Historical Review

This paper discusses Jewish involvement in shaping United States immigration policy. In addition to a periodic interest in fostering the immigration of co-religionists as a result of anti-Semitic movements, Jews have an interest in opposing the establishment of ethnically and culturally homogeneous societies in which they reside as minorities. Jews have been at the forefront in supporting movements aimed at altering the ethnic status quo in the United States in
favor of immigration of non-European peoples. These activities have involved leadership in Congress, organizing and funding anti-restrictionist groups composed of Jews and gentiles, and originating intellectual movements opposed to evolutionary and biological perspectives in the social sciences.

More importantly, ethnic and religious pluralism serves external Jewish interests because Jews become just one of many ethnic groups. This results in the diffusion of political and cultural influence among the various ethnic and religious groups, and it becomes difficult or impossible to develop unified, cohesive groups of gentiles united in their opposition to Judaism. Historically, major anti-Semitic movements have tended to erupt in societies that have been, apart from the Jews, religiously and/or ethnically homogeneous. Conversely, one reason for the relative lack of anti-Semitism in America compared to Europe was that "Jews did not stand out as a solitary group of [religious] non-conformists (Higham 1984, p. 156). It follows also that ethnically and religiously pluralistic societies are more likely to satisfy Jewish interests than are societies characterized by ethnic and religious homogeneity among gentiles.

Beginning with Horace Kallen, Jewish intellectuals have been at the forefront in developing models of the United States as a culturally and ethnically pluralistic society. Reflecting the utility of cultural pluralism in serving internal Jewish group interests in maintaining cultural separatism, Kallen personally combined his ideology of cultural pluralism with a deep immersion in Jewish history and literature, a commitment to Zionism, and political activity on behalf of Jews in Eastern Europe.

All of these articles are biased in their ways, for example while it isn't mentioned the death of Leo Frank mentioned in one of the articles ended up leading to the creation of the Anti-Defamation League which is still around today. All in all, there is an obvious low-hanging living clay joke here but going beyond that you can see a lot of current issues for American Jews is self-inflicted though I doubt anyone thought that would ever occur a hundred years ago.

 

[Sithis]

That would of definitely been a big reversal of the trend in the 20th century. There was a period of time when WASPs and American Jews didn't really like each other or at the very least the former didn't really care for the latter apparently.

Christians may have moments of distaste for the killers of their Lord and Savior but the overwhelming majority are convinced to go against Israel or God's chosen is to invoke God's wrath.
I don't see how they rationalized pushing various races of crab-in-bucket melanin primitives who kill their own with glee as being preferable to that. But these are the retards who saw God smite Egypt with plagues and then worshipped a golden calf.
They seem to have got so caught up with the idea that America is Israel's protector they forgot the demographic of America that actually did fighting and dying on their behalf in the last century.

 

[Breadbassket]

They seem to have got so caught up with the idea that America is Israel's protector they forgot the demographic of America that actually did fighting and dying on their behalf in the last century.

I am unsure if many of them ever really cared about that, in regards to people at the top anyway. Supporting immigration and such had its boons in the eye of some.

Jewish Involvement in Shaping American Immigration Policy, 1881-1965: A Historical Review

However, in addition to a persistent concern that America be a safe haven for Jews fleeing outbreaks of anti-Semitism in foreign countries, there is evidence that Jews, much more than any other European-derived ethnic group in America, have viewed liberal immigration policies as a mechanism of ensuring that America would be a pluralistic rather than a unitary, homogeneous society (e.g., Cohen 1972). Pluralism serves both internal (within-group) and external (between-group) Jewish interests. Pluralism serves internal Jewish interests because it legitimates the internal Jewish interest in rationalizing and openly advocating an interest in Jewish group commitment and non-assimilation, what Howard Sachar (1992, p. 427) terms its function in "legitimizing the preservation of a minority culture in the midst of a majority's host society." The development of an ethnic, political, or religious monoculture implies that Judaism can survive only by engaging in a sort of semi-crypsis. As Irving Louis Horowitz (1993, 86) notes regarding the long-term consequences of Jewish life under Communism, "Jews suffer, their numbers decline, and emigration becomes a survival solution when the state demands integration into a national mainstream, a religious universal defined by a state religion or a near-state religion." Both Neusner (1987) and Ellman (1987) suggest that the increased sense of ethnic consciousness seen in Jewish circles recently has been influenced by this general movement within American society toward the legitimization of minority group ethnocentrism.

Don't wanna get too off topic in the American politics thread since a lot of this is old history but to say the least the events of the past are very fascinating in how they effect today.

 

[Snekposter]

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That makes sense. He can gaff all he wants with the US Public and other world leaders. But Pooh Bear is the Big Cheese. Biden has to be on his best behavior around him.

But it would be funny if Blinken is realizing his boss just shat himself in public. Again.

Blinken is probably the only competent person in the entire White House. I'd feel sorry for him being surrounded by loud-mouthed idiots, but he made his bed long ago.

 

[Drag-on Knight 91873]

Blinken is probably the only competent person in the entire White House. I'd feel sorry for him being surrounded by loud-mouthed idiots, but he made his bed long ago.

Given how his recent overseas trips to China and Saudi Arabia have gone, I would not call him competent. He seems like the least incompetent, but still objectively incompetent.

 

[XYZpdq Jr.]

Given how his recent overseas trips to China and Saudi Arabia have gone, I would not call him competent. He seems like the least incompetent, but still objectively incompetent.

wasn't he the one talking up how great the mideast is at being peaceful, and then less then a week later hamas went supernutso?

 

[Drag-on Knight 91873]

wasn't he the one talking up how great the mideast is at being peaceful, and then less then a week later hamas went supernutso?

And then visited the Middle East and everyone lectured him and no one cares what he thinks.

 

[Snekposter]

wasn't he the one talking up how great the mideast is at being peaceful, and then less then a week later hamas went supernutso?

The Mid East was actually doing a reasonable job at being peaceful until Hamas decided to start shit. Its why even we Kiwis were caught with our pants down at Hamas deciding to go full Far Cry and launch a paraglider assault on Israel before gunning down a bunch of ravers because they could since there weren't any rumblings they'd cause trouble.

 

[ForgedBlades]

This "press conference" is fucking brutal. How have we normalized the whole notecard and pre-screened questions bullshit? Complete clown show.

 

[Snekposter]

This "press conference" is fucking brutal. How have we normalized the whole notecard and pre-screened questions bullshit? Complete clown show.

What's this "we" business? The media certainly, because its either that or admit he's a senile doddering fool, and I guarantee you Xi doesn't give a damn because its not like China doesn't have its own history of weak rulers and shadow puppetmasters.

 

[mandatorylurk]

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They talk behind the scenes and Fag Smith realizes Fanny Willis is dumber than he thought, they have no case in GA, the leaked Jebba Ellis video shows they have nothing, and it will make DC look even worse and blatant. The MAL case is looking DOA and the New York Stormy Daniels case will be delayed because they don't want to go first. This should also make it easier for SCOTUS to say "a delay on the gay."

 

[MMS-China]

Hamas deciding to go full Far Cry and launch a paraglider assault on Israel before gunning down a bunch of ravers because they could since there weren't any rumblings they'd cause trouble.

You are a funny person. It's clear it was all allowed to go ahead. With a 3rd party licensed music festival nearby. One time only. Near the border fence. Just for a good amount of civilian casualties.

https://www.timesofisrael.com/egypt-intelligence-official-says-israel-ignored-repeated-warnings-of-something-big/

https://www.timesofisrael.com/hamas-drilled-in-plain-sight-posted-video-of-mock-assault-weeks-before-massacre/

 

[mandatorylurk]

This "press conference" is fucking brutal. How have we normalized the whole notecard and pre-screened questions bullshit? Complete clown show.

He's breathing hard and he only did 18 minutes (90 minutes of blue waiting screen) and is trying to backtrack saying he'll use military force to release hostages.

 

[Gehenna]

You are a funny person. It's clear it was all allowed to go ahead. With a 3rd party licensed music festival nearby. One time only. Near the border fence.

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I just see this as the terminal flaw of Israel and Jews in general if you read the bible. Sheer hubris. The belief in their own overwhelming superiority and untouchability completely overriding common sense. .

 

[MMS-China]

I just see this as the terminal flaw of Israel and Jews in general if you read the bible. Sheer hubris. The belief in their own overwhelming superiority and untouchability completely overriding common sense. .

Israel needed something big. Something they could use as political capital for the clearing of Palestine.

With Nordstream destroyed. The US no longer has to focus on Ukraine.




Now to move with the plan of implementing the alternative to Nordstream, and China/Russia Economic corridor.

 

[Betonhaus]

I just see this as the terminal flaw of Israel and Jews in general if you read the bible. Sheer hubris. The belief in their own overwhelming superiority and untouchability completely overriding common sense. .

They're actions are that of a fallen people. They consider themselves god's chosen, but rejected the teachings of His son who tried to mend they ways. They're now no better then Frieren's demons.

 

[Snekposter]

I just see this as the terminal flaw of Israel and Jews in general if you read the bible. Sheer hubris. The belief in their own overwhelming superiority and untouchability completely overriding common sense. .

To quote God for what must be at least half of the Old Testament: "Can you people quit regressing back to paganism every time I look away for ten minutes? I put you on Earth for a reason, and being disobedient, arrogant faggots who think they know better wasn't it."

 

[tehpope]

It passed very unfortunately. Here come the legal challenges though. It's basically as I expected. The Republicans on the FCC voted against it while the Democrats voted for it 3-2.

https://themarkup.org/still-loading/2023/11/15/fcc-approves-rules-to-prevent-digital-discrimination

https://archive.ph/fji7p

Mutahar goes over the Decision. More about everyone having equal internet speeds and shit. But Biden's admin uses the term "digital equity" a lot. And equity usually means everyone's qol gets lower than higher most of the time equity gets thrown around.

 

[OrangeJuliusEvola]

Has Biden embarrassed himself in public with Pooh Bear yet? I expect a gaff or two. And/or biden to trip up/down some steps or on another sandbag.

Its not if he gaffs / embarrass himself, its when.

They cleaned up America's designated shitting city only for the president to poo his pants in front of Pooh Bear. Forget the fiscal crisis, we're in a fecal crisis.

 

[Takayuki Yagami]

I just see this as the terminal flaw of Israel and Jews in general if you read the bible. Sheer hubris. The belief in their own overwhelming superiority and untouchability completely overriding common sense. .

I’d add extreme paranoia to the mix too, though it probably depends on the person how genuine that is.