Off-Topic Scrambled Eggs: Kiwi Farms Detransitioner and Desister General

[Silliest Creature]

I'm not a Detrans, but I previously did support the trans activism (I don't anymore). But even back then I always felt bad for detransitioners because they were treated bad by everyone. Regular people insulted them for considering trooning out in the first place, and the TRAs insulted them for no longer being part of their community. Transitioning is stupid, it doesn't solve any of your problems and if you medically decide to modify your body it's going to leave permanent consecuences in you, so yeah, if you go trans you are kind of retarded, but with nowadays activism encouraging and glorifying this shit and other opinions being censored and stigmatized. Can I really blame those who were susceptible for this?. You were a retard for transitioning, yeah, but if you realized it wasn't the solution you're taking a step in the right direction. I dont think people should be shamed for realizing their own mistakes. You fucked up, but if you decide to move on from that then you're actually growing up. I genuinely hope anyone who has detransition get a better life

 

[Margo Martindale]

There used to be a subreddit called /r/detrans, but of course reddit deleted it because of hate speech or some bullshit. Even though it was completely harmless and just people looking to go back to their original gender.
I think they used a black and white flag of a lizard missing its tail, it symbolized something but I don't remember, but I think it should be kept to give the movement some kind of symbol to hold onto, and which can hopefully spread

Anyways it just goes to show how crazy shit has gotten, as the saying goes 'HRT devastating nerd communites like crack to black communities in the 80's', and there should be a place for people to talk about recovery from such things, especially those preyed on while they were still young. Crazy that such a place has to seek refuge on Kiwifarms of all places, since apparently the so called people who celebrate changing your sex, don't really like it when you want to change your sex again.

Edit: If you are to share stories here, use basic opsec at least. Don't use the real names of people or places, replace them with something else. Don't use any exact dates, don't use exact locations, dont use the exact names of groups you belonged to, only reveal the details necessary for your story.

 

[Black Hole Vacation]

If you go to a therapist, and you tell them you think you might be transsexual? The very first thing they're going to do is send you off to someone to talk about HRT and to talk about gender reassignment.

Not sure about the laws/divide in care between where I am and where anyone else would be but look into counselling. They're essentially therapists who can't prescribe medical actions so they can't just throw Lexapro or HRT at you.

 

[Stupid Sexy Flanders]

There used to be a subreddit called /r/detrans, but of course reddit deleted it because of hate speech or some bullshit. Even though it was completely harmless and just people looking to go back to their original gender.

/r/detrans still exists. There has been attempts to take it over by tranny jannies though, but so far they've been unsuccessful.

 

[Procrastinhater]

As much as I agree with this. It’s harder than it sounds. In the other thread there’s some lawsuits (for the medical on) but that doesn’t mean they are going anywhere. The first one tho… I think it will be a long time.

Its hard now. The hope is that once the first few successful suits with big payouts go through, every ambulance chaser in the country, all the "no win no fee" shysters will then smell blood in the water and at that point it should get much easier for individuals to get some justice against ideologue organizations like WPATH who have literal Eunuch Fetishists and NAMBLA members making policy, and all the corrupt "counsellors" and surgeons that have enabled the biggest medical atrocity since Unit 731 to happen right in our fucking front yard.

A big part of the reason this shit is astroturfed and pushed is the immense profit motive behind making lifelong medical patients.
It's psychopathic but it's true, look how much just one troon makes for the medical industry over their lifetime, then look at the astronomical percentage increase of transexuals over the past 5-10 years.
Its big money. The way to make it stop is to start hitting that money, make it a liability not a cash cow.

If/when lawsuits are sucessful, people get payouts, you'll see these clinics start to close, maybe even laws that make this shit far more controlled, and hopefully illegal for under 21/25's (as theres an argument the brain doesn't stop developing till then.
Take away the profit motive, make it a risky venture, thats how this stuff stops.
The ideologically captured will still be fanatics, but without the astroturfing and top down push from above they're just crazies howling that they're cute animu gurls and you can be to if you cut your dick off.
They're a joke. They're only dangerous because they bring profit to the greedy.
And the thing the greedy fear is things that damage their wealth.

 

[ToroidalBoat]

Its a Cult.

So-called "social revenge justice" (AKA "woke") as a whole is a cult.

Never went "transgender" but almost went "woke"... not a way to live.

 

[Epic Fail Man]

I like to add a little bit of yogurt and paprika in my scrambled eggs.

 

[The Repeated Meme]

I genuinely feel pity for detransitioners. Many of them were tricked into thinking that irreversibly fucking up their bodies with hormones would be the solution for deep seated mental problems.

I don't. There's plenty of resources and information online of people telling you how bad of an idea it is to get SRS, not to mention the hundreds of thousands of horror stories coming from people who transition and then regret it. People like me have been telling these people and warning them every time the topic is brought up not to do it. There's no excuse for being ignorant.

If it were up to me, transitioning would be completely banned in the US. It is a clear violation of the Hippocratic oath. No, you don't get to mutilate perfectly healthy genitalia for the same reason that you wouldn't hack off a perfectly good limb. I'm generally pretty libertarian, but I think in this case, we need to protect people from themselves.

 

[Dan of Steel]

Trannies because of recent happenings are (deservedly) persona non grata here on KF, but I'm glad you made this thread because I know for me personally, I get so MATI and my blood boils that these people abuse kids in such a pernicious way, and they're such vile deranged lunatics that actively try to make non-Koolaid drinkers hate them, it can be hard to remember the human element that the ones that escape the cult and don't make the evil turn from abused-to-abuser are still people, and want the same shit you or I want. (Have people that love you in your life, to have a purpose and live a meaningful existence, etc) Yes, a lot of troons are monsters. But of course not all of them are, a lot of them are young, confused boys who were molested, used and feel meaningless in an ever increasingly feeling isolated and lonely world. If they feel like they have no hope, nothing to look forward to even as just young teenagers, it's unfortunate, but understandable, that they would be easy targets for predators, especially the troon cult.

 

[There She Glows]

I feel some sense of "there but for the grace of God go I" for detransitioners. If trans shit had been a thing like it is now when I first got online I don't know what I would have done because hitting puberty and suddenly getting sexually objectified by grown men while I was still mentally and emotionally a kid was a cursed experience. Then again my parents are based so they never would have allowed it at the age I would have been dumb enough to consider it, but not everybody is so lucky.

 

[ToroidalBoat]

Yes, a lot of troons are monsters.

"Chris Chan" is no exception.

I think he "went tomgirl" because of autogynephilia, taking "get in touch with feminine side" too literally, and he was likely also manipulated by "transgender" cultists.

 

[John R. Brown M.D.]

Crazy that such a place has to seek refuge on Kiwifarms of all places

Why? I couldn't think of a better place to reveal extremely embarassing facts about your personal life in a pornographic level of detail.

i strongly advise against sharing your personal life stories like that on a forum like this

I strongly advise sharing your personal life stories like that on a forum like this because I enjoy people being humiliated.

 

[Doktor Grimm]

I guess i have one other question for any detrans person who sees this.Where do you see the trans movement in the next 10 years?

I'm not sure. I'd like to think that public goodwill towards transitioners is finally beginning to dry up as people are starting to see the ideology for what it is, and the sheer aggression with which this movement is pushed means it'll inevitably burn itself out sooner or later. Whether that'll happen within a year, 5 years, 10 years, I can't say. On the other hand, after the relative success of all the previous civil rights movements, I could see society at large having a hard time accepting that we were actually wrong about this one.

Like others in this thread, I'm somewhat optimistic that the incoming detrans lawsuits will cause the pharmaceutical companies responsible for pushing gender ideology to reconsider. What I do worry about is how the remaining trans activists will react. We're talking potentially hundreds of thousands of people who have given their entire being over to the Cult of Gender and are having their only perceived lifeline ripped away. Are they going to take it sitting down? Or are they going to become increasingly violent towards the people responsible (i.e. us)? I'm not envisioning a War on Trannies or anything, but things could certainly get interesting.

There used to be a subreddit called /r/detrans [...]
I think they used a black and white flag of a lizard missing its tail, it symbolized something but I don't remember, but I think it should be kept to give the movement some kind of symbol to hold onto, and which can hopefully spread

The lizard was chosen as a symbol because they can regrow their tails after dropping them. Which is kind of a weird analogy on the surface, but I think it represents the ability to recover and move on after losing parts of yourself (either literally or metaphorically). It's not just limited to the subreddit either - the Twitter detrans community uses the lizard emoji in their display names to identify one another.

 

[Mr. Zed da Robot Poon Fed]

I genuinely feel pity for detransitioners. Many of them were tricked into thinking that irreversibly fucking up their bodies with hormones would be the solution for deep seated mental problems.

Not for adult detransitioners.

It was impossible to find a therapist that was not staunchly pro-transexual when we were looking for help for my daughter. If you go to a therapist, and you tell them you think you might be transsexual? The very first thing they're going to do is send you off to someone to talk about HRT and to talk about gender reassignment. Maybe that's just because the area I live in.

I would honestly say to examine your potential therapists, and choose one you seem is the most conservative. That might mean getting a male therapist who idolizes masculinity, which may be odd to introduce to your daughter, but if you do therapy, better safe than sorry, from personal experience.

Not all therapists are coo-coo.

 

[naaaaiiiiillllll!!!]

Scrambled Eggs on Kiwifarms? Oh my god, that's my favorite way to prepare breakfast eggs! Here's a video showing a good way to make them (a bit try-hard, but quite good!). I always go for extra ground pepper myself:

...Oh, that's not what this thread is about...

 

[MCRonald]

I’m not detrans, but I’m glad this thread exists and that you have somewhere to talk without Big Trans shitting on you. Thank you for letting us ask questions. Speaking of which…

One of the problems with data collection on detrans rates is that detrans patients don’t stay with the doctors who treated them.

1. Did you ever discuss detransition with those doctors? If so, what was their reaction?

2. Did you cut ties with all doctors who were part of your transition (including family doctor)?

3. Was it hard to find medical treatment to assist with any post-transition issues (physical or mental)?

4. Have you ever participated in any data collection relating to your detransition?

Thank you for any answers in advance.

ETA corrected question 1 to detransition

1. I don't remember their reaction, so I suppose in that case they were just generally "Oh okay, are you sure? Well let us know if you need anything else"
2. I did, mainly cause I didn't need them, and as for a family doctor? I never had a family doctor.
3. I've been lucky as I've had no issues Physically nor Mentally so I can't say on this one.
4. No, but I'd like to.

I guess i have one other question for any detrans person who sees this.Where do you see the trans movement in the next 10 years?Many TRAs are confident that because so many teenagers are into gender that trans will be majorly accepted, and detrans people will be seen in the same light as ex gays.As for me, i honestly don't see it.Yes teens are obsessed with gender and it is sad that some are groomed to transition, but i can tell you that the majority of teenagers that i've seen are mostly those weirdos who say they're non binary or genderfluid, and do nothing with their bodies(even my own cousin is like this).I personally hope that those lawsuits continue to grow more and more until it becomes more mainstream, but since the MSM is current on the pro trans bandwagon there will be more attempts to censor.

I think we'll start seeing more and more Detrans people come out and start suing people, we've already had a few like you've seen, I think this will make it harder for Trans people to get proper rights and I really hope, that the current Laws that have streamlined access to HRT, get changed heavily.
As for Trans people themselves? Sadly, I don't see them going away, as I've said before they're a parasite, they aren't going to go down that easily.
I mean hell they already have their own DIY HRT that they sell to people, so all these medical boundaries that may or may not get changed, won't matter.
I do think that, after Lawsuit #250 from Timmy who cut their dick off instead of getting mental help, the way people view Trannies will change heavily, I mean we've already seen this with Media alone, Hogwarts Legacy for example. I wasn't expecting that entire situation to go the way it did, the same with Dylan the Budlight guy, and even Trans Lifeline.
But even then, a Parasite are Trannies. They'll try and use this as further proof that "look we're just like the Gays!! we too have been forced to shut up and hide away just like they did in the 80s with the Aid Pandemic!!!"

I don't. There's plenty of resources and information online of people telling you how bad of an idea it is to get SRS, not to mention the hundreds of thousands of horror stories coming from people who transition and then regret it. People like me have been telling these people and warning them every time the topic is brought up not to do it. There's no excuse for being ignorant.

If it were up to me, transitioning would be completely banned in the US. It is a clear violation of the Hippocratic oath. No, you don't get to mutilate perfectly healthy genitalia for the same reason that you wouldn't hack off a perfectly good limb. I'm generally pretty libertarian, but I think in this case, we need to protect people from themselves.

You can say that about literally any Addiction.
"There's plenty resources and information online of people telling you how bad of an idea it is to Smoke"
"Not to mention the hundreds of thousands of horror stories coming from people who drink everyday"
"If it were up to me, Gambling would be completely banned in the U.S"

It's an addiction, the constant validation is what makes it addictive.
Trannies always support the person, no matter what they go through.
They always validate their Identity.
"Ignore what they say about the Dangers of SRS, it's just made up to scare us into not doing it!"
"Ignore what they say about the side effects of HRT, there's been no side effects for us!"

 

[Flaming_Barghast]

I just barely avoided it, and this actually ties into another frustration I have, Birth Control.
I actually took it because my family have pretty bad periods, wasn't unusual to be home for the week and bleed up to 10 days. Anemia was a given.
WELL I started taking it at about 14 or so? And wouldn't you know it, I was never told the risks. Things like- it can kill your sex drive. So, because I thought I was a freak, I leaned into the nonbinary thing. I called myself that into my early early 20's, and ALMOST transitioned. Husband talked me out of it, actually looked into it for me and told me all the risks, so why don't I try stopping it?
Took 2 years for even a whisper of a fart of a sex drive to appear but it did, I don't feel that urge to troon out anymore. We think it also worsened my depression and migraines. I still have both but I get a migraine maybe twice a month instead of twice a day. I know my sister had a really fucking hard time with pregnancy after she stopped it. Up to somerhing like 8 years and she still kept having miscarraiges.
I had actually been tempted to look into yeeting my uterus because I fucking hated the pain. Still do, but I learned the uterus actually gives the body estrogen, as well as the ovaries. And it had its own thing where you'd need to be injected with hormones or risk shit like osteoporosis and arthritis. There's also studies going into it being related to alzheimers but that isn't verified.
The one positive thing I will say about BC- It actually corrected my periods. Like entirely. I have very normal periods that only hurt for like a day, 2 at worst, and then the last day. They also last at worst 5, 3 if I work out to speed it up. Birth control was a fucking life saver to me but I wish I was told the side effects, and maybe advised to get off it when I started having gender identity issues. Or just given a break in general cuz APPARENTLY HORMONAL BC CAUSES CANCER. Don't have it as far as I know but I'm at elevated risk for it now for the next 10 years since I was on it so long. You're not supposed to be on it for longer than a couple years at a time, I was on it for almost 15! Again, nobody told me this! My husband looked it up! You could make the arguement that it was my duty to look up the risks, and to an extent I'd agree, but I also didn't even know what exactly to look up because, again, was 14 when I took it.

 

[monstrous bubo]

You're not supposed to be on it for longer than a couple years at a time, I was on it for almost 15! Again, nobody told me this! My husband looked it up! You could make the arguement that it was my duty to look up the risks, and to an extent I'd agree, but I also didn't even know what exactly to look up because, again, was 14 when I took it.

Where I live, that is textbook uninformed consent, and begging for a lawsuit. While taking responsibility for your own care is admirable, the doctor is the expert who is meant to read up and distill information for the patient. You then make a decision based on full information. For comparison, mine tell me the side effects. Even after prescribing something, they review and tell me if the state of knowledge has changed, or a better option is available. You have been poorly served by your doctors.

 

[Flaming_Barghast]

I guess i have one other question for any detrans person who sees this.Where do you see the trans movement in the next 10 years?Many TRAs are confident that because so many teenagers are into gender that trans will be majorly accepted, and detrans people will be seen in the same light as ex gays.As for me, i honestly don't see it.Yes teens are obsessed with gender and it is sad that some are groomed to transition, but i can tell you that the majority of teenagers that i've seen are mostly those weirdos who say they're non binary or genderfluid, and do nothing with their bodies(even my own cousin is like this).I personally hope that those lawsuits continue to grow more and more until it becomes more mainstream, but since the MSM is current on the pro trans bandwagon there will be more attempts to censor.

I think we will have a very severe dip in age ratios. I.e. much less young than old people, it'll be difficult to find doctors, mental health services will eat a bullet because nobody will either want to touch it or just won't have enough people to justify costs. As that portion ages out, I think depression will rise, as will suicides nearing the 30s to 40s range from zoomers hitting early adulthood and regretting their decision. I think we'll have a very fucking scary close call with our very country collapsing from not enough people. There will probably be an assload of new regulations and restrictions on what you can and can't do as a doctor/therapist. Housing and education will become massively cheaper because of so few people, which will probably result in a baby boom from gen alpha, but ai think we're in for a rough road that will only seem hopeful by the time we're nearly dead. And then another social contagion will take its place, just like transing took over lobotomies.

 

[Easterling]

I don't want to ask people to power level here but i'm going to assume the majority of detrooners here are biologically female. Please correct me if I wrong but I tend to find the male to female troons are of the coomer / autogynephilic types that infest the internet of late. That aside I'm glad more people are waking up to this social contagion and I hope you are all able to live fulfilling and happy lives as a result.