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I've been feeling like shit for a month and a half as of this post. I've been glancing over everything I've achieved so far, and it all feels worthless. In my studies, I feel like a fraud facing another battle after the next, studying and perfecting my learning methods 24/7 just to barely get by while others around me effortlessly succeed. It's been a week since I let my foot off the gas, and I still can't relax or recover. My tutoring gig on weekdays with kids feels morally right, but I feel like I don't belong there, and frankly, the way kids are being taught nowadays just depresses me. If you wonder why kids still learn to count and read at 11 years old nowadays, just pick up one of their workbooks, read exercise instructions, and be shocked at the amount of newspeak written within to explain even the most basic of concepts. Despite having done massive research over the "science" behind actual learning and having been hired partly because of that, I'm not allowed to teach it to them at my job because it's more interesting to my superiors to have them just do homework and learn about speed reading (which, if you don't know, is absolute fucking quackery).
I don't generally like to talk about most of my interests on the farms, but I feel comfortable saying this: I like to collect very old and antique science books, especially ones with "strange" errors in them. Some stuff well over a century old. I have one that references Piltdown man, one that makes reference to the 70s Soviet scam of "polywater," references to Earth being 2 billion years old. Of course I have somewhat racist stuff as well, or at least listing the old racial classifications. I find this stuff neat.

I often find the language much better written. It's often more direct, more personal, and less artificial. The prose is enjoyable to read, it's less crammed with all the irrelevant bullshit, and it's often written as a person speaking to the reading audience, not like this feigned inhuman objectivity in modern textbooks.

Some of these books also get a bit into the pedagogy and what to expect from students. What really gets me is just how hands-on old lesson plans are in some of these books. Education is famous for being subjected to the "fashionable-theory-of-the-month" and yet our children are stupider than ever, and it's not just Tiktok. It's because education has become a mechanical process but children do not have mechanical minds.

Things were a lot more personal and less bureaucratic then. The past didn't have a giant administrative layer over every facet of human life. Every administrator needs to justify their existence, and they need to bring "new ideas" to the table to do so, which is why our society is filled with ever-changing piles of slop from these "leaders."
I know I need people to be with and talk to, but I reflexively avoid hanging around strangers and friends for some reason, and my family has been considering me a borderline retarded joke for my entire life despite having no genetic issues, mastering English as my secondary language on my own at age 12, and being the second most academically successful member of my family so far. I'm tired of fitting nowhere, and being treated like shit when I attempt to reach out.
I know I haven't been living right for almost my entire existence, and I know I probably should set out to greener pastures, but I have nowhere else to go and barely enough money to get by. I have lots of ideas, but executing them feels daunting and would have me turn my back on all the efforts I've put in years studying (and therefore confirm to my family I'm good for nothing unless those projects pay off big time).

I've had shit phases I could power through through sheer stubbornness, but it might be the first time I feel trapped between life-changing gambles with garbage odds, an existence where I struggle with myself until I fully snap, and vagrancy. I'm so fed up.
I think a lot of people here would sympathize with that.
 
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I'm female, and straight.
Well I guess you can ignore everything I said about therapy being mostly useless for men. It does feel strange hearing a woman say she can't find a decent relationship; there are plenty of guys that want the kind of thing you described. Maybe you're just looking in the wrong places or overlooking the guys that would be a good fit for you.

Meanwhile my parents are on my case again about not having a girlfriend. I don't know what to tell them besides "I don't know what I'm supposed to do"
 
So I finally got the nerve to ask a guy I find attractive if they want to hangout outside of work. He said yes and there is a cool bar I wanted to check out so I asked if he wanted to join me, he said yes and now I have plans with him.

I don’t know what to expect but I’m hoping it turns into a date or I gain a friend who will explore new places with me. Both outcomes are pretty neat in my opinion.
 
Well I guess you can ignore everything I said about therapy being mostly useless for men. It does feel strange hearing a woman say she can't find a decent relationship; there are plenty of guys that want the kind of thing you described. Maybe you're just looking in the wrong places or overlooking the guys that would be a good fit for you.

Meanwhile my parents are on my case again about not having a girlfriend. I don't know what to tell them besides "I don't know what I'm supposed to do"
So as not to PL, I'm kind of in a place where marriages tend to be fairly stable and anyone 1. my age and 2. would be a good fit for me was married off a long time ago.

Pretty consistently, those I've dated in the last few years have been some rich guys that dated me for sport (they liked to not-so-subtly remind me they were too good for me; they weren't and those didn't last long), but mostly guys below my social class that damn near resented me for being more successful and despite my general demeanor lately, having my shit together better than them.

If someone could point me towards where they keep single, middle-aged men with their shit together and who work out (yes, that's important) who aren't going through mid-life crises and think the next best thing isn't a swipe away when the reality of a relationship hits them, I'd love to know where that is.
 
So as not to PL, I'm kind of in a place where marriages tend to be fairly stable and anyone 1. my age and 2. would be a good fit for me was married off a long time ago.

Pretty consistently, those I've dated in the last few years have been some rich guys that dated me for sport (they liked to not-so-subtly remind me they were too good for me; they weren't and those didn't last long), but mostly guys below my social class that damn near resented me for being more successful and despite my general demeanor lately, having my shit together better than them.

If someone could point me towards where they keep single, middle-aged men with their shit together and who work out (yes, that's important) who aren't going through mid-life crises and think the next best thing isn't a swipe away when the reality of a relationship hits them, I'd love to know where that is.
I just looked everywhere around here and couldn't find one. Hell, I even looked in the mirror.
 
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So as not to PL, I'm kind of in a place where marriages tend to be fairly stable and anyone 1. my age and 2. would be a good fit for me was married off a long time ago.

Pretty consistently, those I've dated in the last few years have been some rich guys that dated me for sport (they liked to not-so-subtly remind me they were too good for me; they weren't and those didn't last long), but mostly guys below my social class that damn near resented me for being more successful and despite my general demeanor lately, having my shit together better than them.

If someone could point me towards where they keep single, middle-aged men with their shit together and who work out (yes, that's important) who aren't going through mid-life crises and think the next best thing isn't a swipe away when the reality of a relationship hits them, I'd love to know where that is.
Those are unicorns and at best they'll have dead wives they're hung up over and stepkids you have to worry about. Why don't you try dating young guys who have their shit together and try more or less grooming them?
 
So I finally got the nerve to ask a guy I find attractive if they want to hangout outside of work. He said yes and there is a cool bar I wanted to check out so I asked if he wanted to join me, he said yes and now I have plans with him.

I don’t know what to expect but I’m hoping it turns into a date or I gain a friend who will explore new places with me. Both outcomes are pretty neat in my opinion.
Good luck! I think you asking him out is probably a big point in your favor; you've basically given him a gigantic compliment and we don't get many of those.

If someone could point me towards where they keep single, middle-aged men with their shit together and who work out (yes, that's important) who aren't going through mid-life crises and think the next best thing isn't a swipe away when the reality of a relationship hits them, I'd love to know where that is.
Sounds like your problem is your age? The men you're describing typically want younger women. I'm not even that old and even I'd probably want to date someone a few years younger than me.
 
It's both cathartic and horrifying thinking of the universal pains we've been expressing here. It's something I've been thinking about at work the past couple of days.
I think the thing that strikes me the older I get and the way society changes, especially in America, is sometimes there's the haves and have-nots. People try to pretend they don't care about certain things or tell you you shouldn't. But in all actuality a lot of society treats life like a 30 year old wizard treats XBox Achievements. When we're young, we're taught "you shouldn't judge people by looks, it doesn't matter how much money you make, being yourself is the most important thing" but that becomes increasingly hard to believe as you get older. It turns out people do think physical features can be a character flaw, people will naturally like you the more money you have, being yourself sometimes costs you a lot of opportunities, and there is an age where you're considered a failure for not having relationships, children, a house, a 720 credit score, and everything else.
Sometimes there's the haves and havenots. I don't want to call us losers, but in a way on a societal level we'd be seen as that anyway.
I don't know if it's autism or what. But there comes a point where you just start noticing you're not the guy with everything. And you don't have the connections and things that comes with that. You don't have that "thing" that makes life easier. And because you don't have that "thing" that would make certain areas of life easier, you start to fall behind, which makes it harder to achieve that "thing", which makes it harder, and so on and so forth. Considering that "thing" is really even attainable at a certain point. That's what I hate about all these sigma bros and all the grifters in the dating/incel advice sphere.
I'm not saying exercise is wrong and you shouldn't improve yourself. But at a certain point, I think people really are trying their best and they can't have that "thing" that makes them get along with the average person. So they shouldn't have to constantly shame themselves for not having those things, as maybe those things weren't on the table. I wish life wasn't this way. But that seems to be how it is.
I'm a good example of that. I have worked on myself EXPONENTIALLY over the last year or two. To the point I feel like I'm having a panic attack most of the time. And while I would say I've gotten severely better at being around people... I've realized recently I'm just never going to be "the guy". I'll always be "that guy". I call people retards and faggots when I want to, I dress and comb my hair a bit differently than most, I'm a degenerate weeb, I can't talk to people about the newest TikTok or any of the mediocre shit I know a lot of women probably like and even if I could I can't fake my interest in them. I still try my best to talk with people, but I'll never have that group unity for the most part. The good tradeoff of this is when I find a rare friend or girlfriend, they are legitimately pretty fucking cool and easy to vibe with.

I don't know if I have advice here or anything. In fact, sometimes there isn't any advice. Sometimes life is shit and you just have to deal with it. And sometimes it's shit for a very long time. But overall for all the people here struggling with finding company and a significant other, you're not alone. And there's nothing "wrong" with you. You're just not "the guy". I think if anything anymore I just wish I could go back to a time when I could be as passionate about my interests and goals more than I was adhering to what arbitrary societal ranking I could get. Maybe I'm doomed to a life of wizardom. I hope that's not the case but maybe just accepting that for me has some bitter peace in it. Trying not to always "improve" and "be like the rest" and accepting I'm okay as who I am is kind of freeing from dedicating the next 10 years of my life to some gay-ass sigma self-help grind out of desperation for pussy.
I think about all my favorite artists, or hell even Youtubers. And the truth is, they usually ended up finding girlfriends or popularity through their art. There's plenty of weird rappers out there that I'm almost positive were the literal casebook definition of incels before they made their music. And didn't Pewdiepie meet his wife through youtube? I'm not saying we all have to become the next big thing to get laid. I just think certain men gain community and acceptance through what they do more than for what they are.
I think the next three years are going to be the brutal climax of what the past 10 have been building up to. That's wishful thinking but I really think there will be a time after the big climatic end to the Gay Ops arc where people be severely less cringe and gay. A man can hope at least.
Just do you unabashedly in the meantime but don't forget to touch grass sometimes. I literally met the girl who brought the most joy I've ever had in my life at a fucking Walmart. So you never know.

EDIT: Also this song kinda sums up how I feel a lot of the time.
 
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Update. I cannot smell or taste.

I too have a cold. I'm pretty sure I got it from my sister, who gave it to my other sister than then gave it to me. No cough, very little sneezing just pure head cold. Sucks fat cock but atleast I can breath most of the time without sniffling.

Get better friend and don't forget to take some tylenol or atleast something with acetaminophen in it it'll help some.
 

I too have a cold. I'm pretty sure I got it from my sister, who gave it to my other sister than then gave it to me. No cough, very little sneezing just pure head cold. Sucks fat cock but atleast I can breath most of the time without sniffling.

Get better friend and don't forget to take some tylenol or atleast something with acetaminophen in it it'll help some.
Yea. I can breathe right now (nose clears and unclears) but I still can't smell. Taste isn't completely gone but it's like eating ghosts.

I hope you get better as well friend
 
Thinking of what to say during a break up has got to be one of the least pleasant experiences in life. It feels like no matter how much effort you put into it, it gets worse the more you think about it. Like thinking about how to tell someone you accidentally killed their pet.

There is no right way, just lesser degrees of wrong.
I guess I'm about to find out soon enough.
 
Thinking of what to say during a break up has got to be one of the least pleasant experiences in life. It feels like no matter how much effort you put into it, it gets worse the more you think about it. Like thinking about how to tell someone you accidentally killed their pet.


I guess I'm about to find out soon enough.
Why not just shoot her a text?
 
Sounds like your problem is your age? The men you're describing typically want younger women. I'm not even that old and even I'd probably want to date someone a few years younger than me.
I mean, that could be part of it. Part of the problem I've been complaining about is freshly divorced men are having their mid-life crises and that's why I end up with lower-status guys. They have the choice to skew younger, and they're more willing to a woman that is established, educated and fed up enough to call them out on any bullshit about their mid-life crises. The lower-class guys don't have much choice, and don't want to be called out on their bullshit either, but they put up with it more because they don't have the guts to look in the mirror. Those guys at least aren't up their own asses enough to be fun for a little while.

So the natural question here is: why am I not dating older guys? Because they relish in nothing more than the idea (wrong though it is) that they can tell me what to do. Objectively, I've made a ton of good choices in my life, I just married the wrong guy. And somehow, older guys think that deep down, I married him because I have serious issues that they can exploit. They're not wrong about the issues, but they are wrong that I'm going to put up with being bossed around.

Those are unicorns and at best they'll have dead wives they're hung up over and stepkids you have to worry about. Why don't you try dating young guys who have their shit together and try more or less grooming them?
Because younger guys don't have their shit together in different ways. And even though I am losing hope in getting something permanent, I'm not going to intentionally chase someone for whom things wouldn't be permanent anyway.

I don't know if came across when I said that marriages lasted where I live? Well, it shouldn't come as a surprise that where I live, there is lots and lots of money. The last thing I want in my life is an entitled little shit that is dating me out of the possibility that I might want to sugar him to keep him. I've had to deal with assholes that were my age that expected to be sugared when I made more than they did.

Most people don't think I haven't thought through angles like yours or the one above it. I have, it's ultimately why I'm feeling hopeless about dating. I was kind of hoping there'd be a subset of people like me out there: started out bad, got my head on straight, looking to set my path right. But you can't put that in a dating profile.
 
Most people don't think I haven't thought through angles like yours or the one above it. I have, it's ultimately why I'm feeling hopeless about dating. I was kind of hoping there'd be a subset of people like me out there: started out bad, got my head on straight, looking to set my path right. But you can't put that in a dating profile.
From what you've been saying you seem to have something that's both a great thing and can be a serious problem. You know your worth. Nothing wrong with that per se. It's honestly one of the best traits to have as an adult. But you talk about young men not having things in place. And honestly that's a bit of rough cycle. A lot of people don't have their shit together because they have nothing to live for that would make even think that's a choice. Young men aren't really valued anymore, so they fall by the wayside and let people go on because they don't think there's a point. I'm one of those young men you could be talking about that hasn't got a lot going for them.
I'm not saying to date them out of pity, but I do think that people usually can strive for better when there's someone that gives them the initiative to. It's a really fucked up cycle because as much as people say "value yourself", it's very hard to do for people who have no one who values them anyways. Literal ubermenschs' are pretty rare. Most people who found a way out of hell had some sort of support system or something to work for in the first place.
 
I don't know if came across when I said that marriages lasted where I live? Well, it shouldn't come as a surprise that where I live, there is lots and lots of money. The last thing I want in my life is an entitled little shit that is dating me out of the possibility that I might want to sugar him to keep him. I've had to deal with assholes that were my age that expected to be sugared when I made more than they did.
I get that, I don't know what you look like or what you're like to be around and already I'd like to be sugared.

I don't think that hiding the trials and tribulations on your dating profile is the best thing, as any hints that something went on that isn't sufficiently nuanced is going to come off as a red flag. Maybe there are sites or connections you can explore, like eHarmony or matchmaking services or something else in the area that normal people would be aware of?

If your job allows you, it might be time to look elsewhere on the country or other countries for a husband. Or of you want something shorter then have very clearly defined boundaries about sugaring or whatever where you will boot them immediately when that line is crossed.

Would you consider a lower income partner that can stay at home to cook and clean and keep the house together, with maybe a part time job that allows him spending money for his things?
 
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