Did The 90s Suck? - And if so, why?

Music started to get worse in the 90s, but there was still a lot of great shit. It's like the turn of the millenium brought us into the Kali Yuga. Things just keep getting worse.

Kid's cartoon shows were fucking amazing back then. Lots of humor snuck in for the adults too.
The 90s were great, iirc, good economy, good media, the pinnacle of cars before they turned into computers, I remember the overwhelming mood being joy, hope, excitement for the future.
We had such huge hopes for the Internet. How misplaced that turned out to be.
 
I remember the overwhelming mood being joy, hope, excitement for the future.
Speaking of "nerd", Star Trek and Star Wars were better off then, not the post-JJ "woke"-infested clusterbombs they are today. And at least Star Trek had this sense of optimism for the future, compared to "Nu Trek" having such a "grimdark" feel to it these days.
 
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Cant really speak for myself because end of the 90´s were the golden years for me. So, i´sm biased

But a Algiarian friend of mine and his friends who all pretty much are had their golden 20´s in the 80´s. Say the 90´s were the best. You could earn fuck load of money, money that went a long way and allowed for a real freedom. General culture and atmosphere was just better. The only complaintthey all have was that tech was still ungodly expensive and music. Music was pretty shit. compared to their youth and their golden 20´s.
 
Not really. Things that were good: Had my first child (who has now given me my first grandchild). Bought my first house. Usenet discussion boards. Alice In Chains. The Soviet Union lol. Bush 41 telling Israel to fucking pipe down (the last time an American president did that). TLC actually being The  Learning Channel. My group of friends then. Collective Soul. Got one post-graduate degree and later would start another. Good economy. Shitlibs total meltdown over losing the House for the first time in 40 years.

Things that sucked: Gulf War I. Bill Clinton. "Friends." Green Day. Clinton's "the first woman this, the first woman that" PC bullshit. David Souter/Ruth Bader Ginsburg. Start of the Star Wars "prequel" trilogy. Beginnings of marriage unravelling. The Balkans. Madeline Albright.

Ok, that's enough
 
Music started to get worse in the 90s, but there was still a lot of great shit.
When it comes to WP (Western pop), I think I like '80s stuff best. '90s WP could still be good, but that's also when it could go "grunge-y" and "hip hop". By sometime after the '00s, WP was going "dubstep" and "Millennial whoop" and other Current Year crap.
 
First half of the 90s were good for me, rent was SO much more affordable, you could have one job and be able to live on that, the music was good, movies were 50/50.
But around 96-97, things went bad for me for a few years and didn't give a shit about too much.
Fashion and makeup sucked in the late 90s, and the boy bands, Britney Spears and the other assorted garbage was all you heard. I don't remember many good movies from the late 80s either.
 
First half of the 90s were good for me, rent was SO much more affordable, you could have one job and be able to live on that, the music was good, movies were 50/50.
But around 96-97, things went bad for me for a few years and didn't give a shit about too much.
Fashion and makeup sucked in the late 90s, and the boy bands, Britney Spears and the other assorted garbage was all you heard. I don't remember many good movies from the late 80s either.
The worst part is, Britney Spears and those boy bands are still better than what we have today.
 
Very American perspective on the 90s, basically based on what was pop-ular in the US at the time, often commercial goyslop like Jurassic Park and Prince of Bel Air. At least you mentioned Heat which is a real movie that deals with serious issues, like male alienation. Without Pulp Fiction and Forrest Gump there can't really be a discussion about movies in the 90s either.
Also, in Europe we were just over an Iron Curtain collapse and Germany reunification, which were HUGE events. A lot of the atmosphere was one of liberation and terminal optimism, best reflected in the mega rave parties of the era.
Anyway, the 90s obviously had flaws, but they were incomparable to what we have now. It was before the mobile phone, before obesity being widespread, people were generally active and healthier, homosexuality and fetishistic degeneracy were generally shunned and ostracized, trannies were relegated to mentally ill paraphiliacs, and everyone knew what is a woman and what is a man.
That alone is enough to guarantee superiority.
As for music, the 90s were when bands like U2, R.E.M., Smashing Pumpkins, Radiohead and so many others really blew up. We literally have nothing of that intensity now. Most of everything is kosherized and uniform, with minor exceptions.
 
As for music, the 90s were when bands like U2, R.E.M., Smashing Pumpkins, Radiohead and so many others really blew up. We literally have nothing of that intensity now. Most of everything is kosherized and uniform, with minor exceptions.
Right now we live in an era of mega global genericism. Everything everywhere is designed for the lowest common denominator.
 
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A person's view on the 90's probably depends on where they were living at the time. Eastern Europe likely sucked, with the wars, poverty, & heroin and Apefrica with the genocide. Shit was pretty rad in the US though. Yeah there were some fucked up events, but overall wasn't too shabby.

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I'd say there was the introduction of overbearing gun control in the US and a weird kind of paternalism started to emerge in many western countries (including the US), but in general it was pretty good. Obviously gun control without the paternalism and increased police presence is worse even if you don't care about freedom.
 
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From a cultural perspective the 90's was a period where things were already getting bad, and had been for a while. It was the tail end of good times. But it was also in a sweet spot of a mostly sane society and a scientifically advanced society, a pretty unique position. It had basically all the tech we have now, in competent forms, with less lunacy.
 
The only people I seen pissed off at the 90's are wokie shits who get offended by the media of the time (even tho it was already really liberal), slacker genXers who thought the 80's were better because they were kids back then but by the 90's they had to get a job, reagan boomers still assmad that H-dubya lost the reelection, and finally whiny zoomers who thing everything old=bad, as they keep playing the same fucking GTA for over a decade and think ripoffs of PSX games are peak aesthetic.

It was an era of unprecedented peace and economic prosperity, meanwhile we are living in a dystopia that's somehow both more horrible and way more boring than any of the dystopias shown in the media ATT. At least Johnny Mnemonic had VR internet and cyborg implants...
TV: There was some quality here, but I haven't seen them in a while so I can't be sure. Prince of Bel-Air, Due South, Tales from the Crypt*, Red Dwarf*, and Mr Bean are all fondly remembered.
*Technically started late 1980s but ran through the 90s so they count
Don't forget The Sopranos, now that's a show that wouldn't be possible today.
I'd add Appleseed here, but it's technically from the 80s.
Most 80's anime didn't make it here until the 90's, specially OVAs. Hell I didn't see AKIRA at my local rental until like 1994, and they wouldn't let me watch it anyway because R-rated.
I hate mopey fucks like cobain but he was completely right that corpos were going to ruin music, and unlike today's mopey fucks he had the decency to sudoku himself.
I've also heard it said that the 90s sucked because PS1 ruined gaming by killing off pixel art
Only the most anal-retentive "games are art!" soycucks believe that.
and allowing dude bro normies into gaming
Yeah because we were all playing pong before the PSX right? Gaming was already mainstream back then, dudebros were playing NFL/NHL games, you had biggie smalls referencing the console wars in his songs, even girls were buying consoles. Gaming wasn't le secrit nerdz club these idiots think, hadn't been since the 2600 given how popular it was.
name me one thing that can cohesively define the 2000's or the 2010's. You can't, it's just all shit.
Yeah I been noticing the same, we're in a cultural stagnation, archeologists of the future might call this a dark age of sorts, depending of how long it lasts.
Yup that was the decade where big media realized rehashing the same old stuff makes most money.
Dunno, remakes of that era like lost in space and wild wild west bombed hard, same with "reboots" like godzilla. New IPs were still the norm until the mid 2000s when the abortion that was bay's transformers happened but this time everybody ate that shit up.
When I think "retro gaming" I normally think '70s and '80s, not '90s.
Zoomers think the PS2 is retro now.
ironically if you were a nerd back then you probably had more of a social life than the zoomers who spend all day on discord
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Today the ease of access have never been greater and yet most stuff coming out is not even worth bothering.
Ironic isn't it?
I want cyberpunk and hyper violence, not overly-dramatic moe-blob slice-of-life paedo-bait isekia.
Same, guess that with japan's economy going to shit the locals would rather have escapism over an even darker future that looks increasingly more like the present.
Like half of that stuff its from the 80's tho.
 
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