Snowflake Pokimane / Pokimanelol / Imane Anys / OfflineTV - Abuses men for social climbing, hypocrite with double standards, doesn't own up to mistakes, lies about relationships, 'not like the other girls'

Oof. I predict she loses her investment on this venture. Selling used bathwater and clothes to simps on the internet is one thing. Its another to convince the average consumer to buy your product in the saturated field of snack foods. She also stupidly picked Costco of all companies to compete with too. People fucking love Costco, not to mention the Kirklands brand makes some really high quality products for the price. No ones going to pick a softcore pornstars overpriced cookies if Costcos makes a cheaper (and probably better) substitute.
I had Jonas brothers popcorn a few months ago, they priced it smartly $3.50 for a bag, and it was actually quite good.
Ive had the same thing, savory is how I would describe it. Its got a unique seasoning. Apparently their agent or someone made it as a snack for them backstage and decided to take it to mainstream market with good success.
 
Oof. I predict she loses her investment on this venture. Selling used bathwater and clothes to simps on the internet is one thing. Its another to convince the average consumer to buy your product in the saturated field of snack foods. She also stupidly picked Costco of all companies to compete with too. People fucking love Costco, not to mention the Kirklands brand makes some really high quality products for the price. No ones going to pick a softcore pornstars overpriced cookies if Costcos makes a cheaper (and probably better) substitute.

Ive had the same thing, savory is how I would describe it. Its got a unique seasoning. Apparently their agent or someone made it as a snack for them backstage and decided to take it to mainstream market with good success.

Will that be the beginning of the onlyfans arc?
 
Unironically this is why. The shitstorm that followed destroyed ad revenue on Youtube and caused a lot of creators to branch out, its why everyone started patreons and sponsored streams.
Eeeeh. It certainly didn't help, but I think this was inevitably going to happen sooner or later thanks to enshitification even if Pewds never said the gamer word, especially with rising interest rates.
 
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How do these niggertarded streamers always manage to miss the point?

Pokimane:
Around 70-80% of the foods you see in the grocery store are white labeled.
The problem isn't the white labeling, it's taking something that could already be made cheaper, greatly marking up the price then trying to pass it off as a good deal.

When companies white label an existing product to be more worth it for the customer (which ironically, Costco does), they're applauded for it, what did she think would happen when something is while labeled to be less worth it?

Asmongold: (Youtube)
"The problem is three times the price." Um. yeah? I mean. I don't think that's like good? I don't think that's like a- Is it a scam? I don't think that's a scam. I don't. I
don't think it's a scam. "The reason why it's a scam-" So let me explain- "It is-" No it's not.
It's not a scam. Let me explain what a scam is. A scam is whenever you buy something and you get something else. That's what a scam is. This is just simply overpriced. These are two very different things.
So, saying "I don't want you guys spending your money on something unless it's really really worth it.", then endorsing what's essentially an existing product that you've made less worth by jacking up the price of isn't a subversion of expectations?

Sure it might not meet the legal definition of a scam, there isn't really a legal definition of "worth it", but there's clearly an element of trying to sell the product as "worth it" right after intentionally making it less "worth it".


Asmongold:
The problem also is like a lot of companies do this. Uh "are these companies also being disingenuous?" Yeah I think they are.
And this is also like the double-edged sword of like, content creator marketing. Like a lot of companies do this, a lot of people do this.
"So it's okay?" I mean yeah, you gonna. I'm gonna. It's gonna be kind of hard for me to go and torch somebody for doing something that's a common industry practice. It is. Like it's I'm not going to torch somebody for that. Yeah it's like what are we doing here?
"A lot of people steal is it okay to steal" now well you think this is the same as stealing?" I don't think so.
The viewer clearly didn't mean to equate the marketing with stealing, he's attacking the "many people do it so it's okay" part.

Nobody was lauding the food industry for honest advertising, or selling things at a fair margin, then taking the contrary opinion when it's done by Pokimane. People can recognize the widespread exploitative practices of an industry, then express disappointment at someone for picking up those same exploitative practices.
 
BTW- Recipes are not protected under US intellectual property laws. You can copyright and trademark everything about your cookie, but the recipe is never protected.
Recipes can absolutely be protected under IP laws. They can be patented just so long as they meet the standards for being patentable - novel, non-obvious, and useful. If you are the first person to invent a particular recipe, and you can describe the process in a way that makes it sound novel, non-obvious, and useful, then you've got a patentable idea.

There's a patent for a PB&J, for instance. "That's not novel" you say. Correct, it's not just a PB&J, it's an Uncrustable... the novel part is that they figured out a way to make it shelf-stable. It doesn't get soggy. And despite the fact that literally everyone has figured out that spreading PB on both slices of bread keeps the jelly from making it soggy, the patent office found it "non-obvious" enough that it granted the patent.

A sealed crustless sandwich for providing a convenient sandwich without an outer crust which can be stored for long periods of time without a central filling from leaking outwardly. The sandwich includes a lower bread portion, an upper bread portion, an upper filling and a lower filling between the lower and upper bread portions, a center filling sealed between the upper and lower fillings, and a crimped edge along an outer perimeter of the bread portions for sealing the fillings therebetween. The upper and lower fillings are preferably comprised of peanut butter and the center filling is comprised of at least jelly. The center filling is prevented from radiating outwardly into and through the bread portions from the surrounding peanut butter.

But maybe even more significantly, recipes can also be protected under trade secret laws. If you don't want anyone to have the recipe, just don't give it to them. Trade secrets aren't just a secret; they're protected by law - as long as you continue to attempt to keep them secret, anyone who steals/leaks your secret recipe will potentially face criminal charges. Of course a trade secret doesn't protect you from someone else independently discovering your secret recipe, so you can't go after "copycat" recipes, no matter how much or little they resemble your official recipe. But the official recipe is your IP.

Recipes can't be copyrighted. There's still other types of IP law that do apply though.
 
She could have easily just stuck to doing sponsors/promo for existing brands on her social media channels and keep collecting checks. This is a venture of pure ego. Pokimane has always seen herself as being "above" everyone else, especially in the streaming space, and has always displayed an arrogant attitude. So it checks out. I bet she actually thought everyone would be too stupid to even look into her business when she launched her announcement. In the RFLCT situation, that streamer played the ignorance card IIRC. Poki doubled down.
 
Pokimane mocking "poor boys" is akin to Oprah mocking middle aged white women, everyone knows you don't shit on your target demographic. Well, I thought everyone did, I'm beginning to suspect Pokimane is a lot dumber than I initially believed. Stupidity combined with unearned success and a massive ego can be a dangerous combination with hilarious results.

Edit: looked at post again and realized I typed Opera instead of Oprah :story:
 
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Pokimane (Twitter) said:
while what i said was 100% intended to be a joke, i see why it came off as insensitive and i apologize for that.

i also understand the current price of the cookies may be expensive for some, and promise we'll continue to consider pricing to keep myna as affordable as possible.

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Pokimane (Twitter) said:
i also want to clarify that this was said towards ONE rude chatter, i did not at all intend it to be a general statement or towards my community.
 
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the thing that confuses me about this cookie stuff is how everyone defending pokimane and pokimane herself seem to be unable to comprehend why people would be upset at her. its not because shes a woman like the retards on twitter have been saying and its not even because the cookies themselves are expensive.

its the fact that shes selling a product that is a massive scam knowing full well that her viewers will buy it just to support her. shes doing the same thing mr beast did with his chocolate bars the only difference is that mr beast goes around making videos about how he is using his money to help people where as all pokimane does is show off all her expensive things and call people broke because they annoy her.

also this might just be a me thing but how exactly is a cookie supposed to be a healthy snack? it feels like more and more companies are just selling their same products but smaller and then calling them healthy as if someone is not going to eat the whole bag if they like them enough.
 
also this might just be a me thing but how exactly is a cookie supposed to be a healthy snack? it feels like more and more companies are just selling their same products but smaller and then calling them healthy as if someone is not going to eat the whole bag if they like them enough.
Problem is they can declare a serving to be anything they want.
Same reason how tic tacs are pretty much all sugar, but can be marketed as sugar free, since each serving has 0.5g of sugar. A serving being 1 singular piece of course.

I'm not sure if there's a solution to this issue though, since especially for snacks it's trivial to say "It's a snack. Nobody asked you to eat that much."
 
the thing that confuses me about this cookie stuff is how everyone defending pokimane and pokimane herself seem to be unable to comprehend why people would be upset at her. its not because shes a woman like the retards on twitter have been saying and its not even because the cookies themselves are expensive.

its the fact that shes selling a product that is a massive scam knowing full well that her viewers will buy it just to support her. shes doing the same thing mr beast did with his chocolate bars the only difference is that mr beast goes around making videos about how he is using his money to help people where as all pokimane does is show off all her expensive things and call people broke because they annoy her.

also this might just be a me thing but how exactly is a cookie supposed to be a healthy snack? it feels like more and more companies are just selling their same products but smaller and then calling them healthy as if someone is not going to eat the whole bag if they like them enough.
Didn't the FDA put a stop to this? Like when chip companies were trying to say there were 3 servings in a snack-sized chip bag?
And a 12oz coke was 2.5 servings?

Also - Food processes can be patented. I didn't know about 'novelty' in recipes. I doubt even the 'crustless' PB&J would hold up if challenged. USA IP law is weird - makes normal lawyers cry, piss, shit, and cum.
I have a dozen patents in 5 different fields- sponsored by employers. I have no idea how any of IP law works.
 
Also - Food processes can be patented. I didn't know about 'novelty' in recipes. I doubt even the 'crustless' PB&J would hold up if challenged. USA IP law is weird - makes normal lawyers cry, piss, shit, and cum.
I think that the patent office gives a fair bit of credit that they're apparently the first people to come up with an industrial process to do the thing that they claim is novel and then they actually stuck them in boxes on shelves waiting for people to come and buy them. It goes a significant way toward the novelty when the question is "well if it was so obvious, why wasn't anyone else doing it".

Another good example of a recipe patent was KFC's pressure-cooker deep fried chicken. I think that one's expired now. Their "11 herbs and spices" on the other hand isn't something that's patentable; so it's a closely-guarded trade secret instead.
 
"Only poor and undesirable broke Bois can't afford my authentic cookies. This is definitely not a ripoff and I'm still heckin wholesome."

This point was probably already made but you could just buy Vitamin D pills for under 5$ and have your supply for 2-3 months. This is just a scam played on twitch brained Simps, who are too retarded to read a nutritional table.
 
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