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Falkland Islands ‘undeniably’ British and ‘non-negotiable’, says Grant Shapps​

It is “non-negotiable and undeniable” that the Falkland Islands are British, Grant Shapps has insisted, in the wake of demands from Argentina’s president-elect for diplomatic talks.

Mr Shapps, the Defence Secretary, noted the Government had sent a new Royal Navy ship back to the islands, which were invaded by Argentina in 1982 before their liberation by British forces.

Javier Milei, who won a landslide victory in the Argentinian election on Sunday, has previouslyasserted his country’s sovereignty over the Falklands, arguing in the final television debate of the campaign that “every effort” must be made to reclaim the territory.

But in a tweet reasserting the Falklands’ status as a British overseas territory, Mr Shapps said:



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Mr Shapps was referring to the results of a referendum in 2013 in which just three out of 1,516 islanders rejected remaining as an overseas territory of the United Kingdom.

The Ministry of Defence (MoD) confirmed on Monday that HMS Medway, a Royal Navy patrol ship, had completed its nine months in the Falklands and handed patrol duty back to HMS Forth, its sister ship.

HMS Forth, which has spent most of this year in Gibraltar, is central to the Falklands mission, which the MoD said was focused on “reassurance to and support for the island community”.

During the final television debate of the campaign, Mr Milei said: “What do I propose? Argentina’s sovereignty over the Malvinas Islands is non-negotiable. The Malvinas are Argentine.
“Now we have to see how we are going to get them back. It is clear that the war option is not a solution. We had a war - that we lost - and now we have to make every effort to recover the islands through diplomatic channels.”

The hardline position taken by Mr Milei is nonetheless less hostile than that of Alberto Fernandez, his Left-wing predecessor, who had called for immediate negotiations.

Mr Milei has insisted any transfer of power must be peaceful and has deemed it a lesser priority than the country’s return to economic growth.

The libertarian economist also argued on the election trail: “What we are proposing is to move towards a solution like the one England had with China over the Hong Kong issue and that, in this context, the position of the people who live on the islands cannot be ignored.”

In July, Rishi Sunak criticised the European Union for its “regrettable choice of words” after the bloc referred to the Falklands as Islas Malvinas, the name that Argentina claims is correct.

Mr Sunak’s spokesman said at the time: “Look, the Prime Minister’s view is that it would have been entirely unacceptable for the EU to question the Falkland islanders’ right to decide their own future. Let’s be clear – Falkland islanders are British.

“The EU has now rightly clarified that their position on the Falkland Islands has not changed after their regrettable choice of words. We will continue to defend the Falkland Islands’ right to determination.”
 
The Hong Kong comparison makes no sense though. First off, the British signed a lease for the place that expired, and the Brits were too weak compared to China to make an argument for extension. There was also the fact the local British population, versus the Falklands, was negligible and mostly cops or the bureaucrats in charge, a puny part of the citizenry, leaving out the expats, which were also a small part. The local population in HK also had a decent sized pro-China group among them, versus maybe one or two Falklanders on the islands who are pro-Argentine to be contrarian or are the local idiot their friends invite to get his shit stomped at the local pub as a joke.
 
The Hong Kong comparison makes no sense though. First off, the British signed a lease for the place that expired, and the Brits were too weak compared to China to make an argument for extension. There was also the fact the local British population, versus the Falklands, was negligible and mostly cops or the bureaucrats in charge, a puny part of the citizenry, leaving out the expats, which were also a small part. The local population in HK also had a decent sized pro-China group among them, versus maybe one or two Falklanders on the islands who are pro-Argentine to be contrarian or are the local idiot their friends invite to get his shit stomped at the local pub as a joke.
China also had a reasonably modern and large military. Argentina had the General Belgrano, which was a light cruiser the USA had put into service before WW2 and sold off to Argentina in 1951 on the cheap because she was already rendered completely obsolete with the invention of missile warfare. She was of course upgraded in the late 1960's with more modern radars and an absolute dogshit first-gen ATGM turned into a point defense weapon for warships, which of course meant that a little over ten years later she was nothing more than a giant target for the Bongs, and would meet her end at another piece of WW2 era surplus, this one a pair of British Mark VIII* torpedoes fired from a modern nuclear attack sub.
 
Oh great, on top of Russia and Israel we have this shit flaring up again.
 
You kept some shitty islands but lost your capital fucking city to brown people, you stupid limey. Shut up.
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>Brits when giving the crown jewel of Asia to China: I SLEEP
>Brits when they realize Argies want a shitty rock full of farmers and haas no actual use besides that: AYO HOLDUP
There are potentially gigantic oil fields all around the south Atlantic, with a great deal falling inside British territorial waters around the islands.
 
There are potentially gigantic oil fields all around the south Atlantic, with a great deal falling inside British territorial waters around the islands.
Exactly. [We have a winner! This guy gets it, etc].

It's not the Argies we have to worry about, it's the fuckin Yanks...

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Also, if anyone wants to watch something related, Tumbledown is really good. 1988 TV movie, starring Colin Firth. Fucked up, brutal, sobering and disturbing - harrowing can also go in there - but mesmerizing. Can also recommend 'An Ungentlemanly Act'.
 
It's not the Argies we have to worry about, it's the fuckin Yanks...
Not as long as you agree to sell it in USD. But the chances of you using anything else are pretty slim even without the threat of military force. The Yuan? The Euro? Don't make me laugh. China is China and you're too stubborn to go back to the Euro.
 
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Not as long as you agree to sell it in USD. But the chances of you using anything else are pretty slim even without the threat of military force. The Yuan? The Euro? Don't make me laugh. China is China and you're too stubborn to go back to the Euro.
Hmmn, seeing Dishy Rishi get Gaddafi'd (or Saddam'd, if you prefer) would be well worth the loss of territory (and sheeps). Do eet!
 
Hmmn, seeing Dishy Rishi get Gaddafi'd (or Saddam'd, if you prefer) would be well worth the loss of territory (and sheeps). Do eet!
No way, man. If we're going to have to drill it ourselves no point conquering. We've got plenty at home so it just isn't worth the cost of taking in all those sheep and sheep lovers.
 
Based antigov Milei wasting bong gov money + weakening their home naval defense with words.

This is a thrifty nigga and you think he can't fix an economy? 🤣
 
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