I Let My Picky Kid Eat Pizza For Thanksgiving & Everyone Lived - The Supertaster Question

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My son called pizza his “special turkey” for about five years. He would not eat regular, nonspecial turkey, not for me. Not for his grandmother, who would never have asked him to in the first place because she was firmly on his side in all things. Not for his stepfather, especially, or anyone in his stepfather’s family, which was a personal affront to all of them. No turkey. Or carrots. Or mashed potatoes unless he saw me make them and could guarantee that I didn’t mash any secret vegetables like cauliflower in to fool him. He did not eat much of anything for a very, very long time. And this was OK most of the year but really the worst at Thanksgiving.

It was always the worst at my husband’s family’s house. We were married for five years only, five years of someone else being the boss of all of us until we decided to be the boss of us. Those Thanksgiving dinners with four kids over one weekend where I knew I had two choices in front of me: feed my son what I knew he would eat or try to “make him eat with the rest of us.” He was expected to sit with the entire family at dinner, to have cut-up turkey and potatoes and carrots on a plate with, and this was fatally important, no ketchup, and eat. Preferably in silence with his hair smoothed over his forehead and a smile on his face.

I was too young to say much then. Too pregnant half the time, too busy with new babies and toddlers and diapers to push back. And so, in the beginning, I tried. To make everyone happy but my son. In the car on the way to dinner, I begged him, “Please, hon, just eat a little bit of turkey and potatoes and you can have a big chocolate brownie for dessert.” I brought bribery brownies with me because pumpkin pie looked too much like a vegetable to him and he would not try it.

My son would tell me “I’ll try,” but you could see in his face it was beyond him. He simply could not force himself to eat it. Once, to prep for the coming holiday, I tried to practice with him. I put one piece of macaroni on his plate and told him that he could have whatever he wanted for dinner if he just ate that one piece. I’m ashamed to tell you I baked an entire funfetti cake and put it on the table in front of him. I’m more ashamed to tell you that I told him he could eat the entire thing if he just tried one piece of my very delicious macaroni.

His little hand with his little fork shaking as it closed in on his little mouth. “I can’t, Mommy,” he finally said. “I just can’t.”

He just couldn’t, and I knew it. I accepted it. Our doctor accepted it, told me he was healthy and he would grow out of it so don’t worry about it. At home, when it was just us, he kept his own bottle of ketchup beside him at the table, ate the mashed potatoes I made him while he pulled his chair over to the kitchen counter to eye me suspiciously. “Can I trust these?” he would ask and I would sigh and push aside the parsnips I was about to mash in when he wasn’t looking. He ate peanut butter sandwiches; he ate bananas. He ate french fries and hot dog buns without the hot dogs dipped in ketchup. He ate cheese pizza.

Then Thanksgiving would come, and we didn’t get to decide anymore, because of the Family. They felt like its own entity separate from my mom and my kids and me, humorless and unknowable. Make him turkey. Make him eat carrots. And do not let him cry.

Because that’s what he would do, just sit there and cry. I was often put at the other end of the table so I couldn’t “let him get away” with anything, as I was told was my habit. For two Thanksgivings, he sat at the table and cried. His stepfather sat beside him, flushed with the effort of trying to show the Family that he, unlike me, was the strong one. When he cried, the Family said, “This is a great way to spend Thanksgiving, listening to him cry all through dinner,” and glared down at me, sitting in front of my untouched food. Useless. I watched my son as his older brother, just a little boy himself, would sneak some of his turkey onto his plate to help him. Inside, I curdled like spoiled milk.

I let that happen for two years and then I said no. My mom said no. My mother-in-law said no. No, he is eating a slice of pizza kept in a Ziploc baggie for his dinner. He and his older brother are drinking chocolate milk too. When he wants mashed potatoes, if he wants mashed potatoes, he gets his own private bottle of ketchup like he does at home. The Family frowned at first. They gossiped about my unruly child, the whiner who got away with everything. But eventually someone else’s kid threw a temper tantrum at the table, and they could talk about her instead.

My son sat quietly eating his special turkey called cheese pizza. I left his stepfather and our Family was cut in half. And so we became a Family of our own. The kind who wears track pants at Thanksgiving and eats whatever the hell we want. And for this, we are thankful.
 
I have never ever met a picky eater that wasn't also an insufferable asshole. Super taster is a cope for shitty parents that impacts very specific flavor profiles and doesn't make you only be able to stomach Dino nuggies
Have to agree. I think some kids are born more picky than others but there is alot parents can do about it.

I'm pretty darn picky about most aspects of food but I'm able to eat pretty much anything. Probably because I wasn't allowed to act picky as a child. Having a skill to eat regardless if I like it has been very useful.

My grandma grew up during WW 2 and while her family never starved because they had a farm many people around her were not as lucky. She loved cooking and was good at it but she had absolutely no patience with pickiness because food was not guaranteed. Attitude she instilled to my dad. Food could and should be enjoyed but it was mainly to be eaten.

I think it helped that I got involved with the cooking at very early age. I was doing full simple meals at 4 years old (hamburger patties and macaroni was my first) so I knew what effort went into cooking and had some control once in while.
 
A solution to picky eaters is to have them join the parents in the kitchen and help. Sure it's going to be a bit messier and probably take longer but young children are more willing to eat food that they helped make.
 
I sometimes wonder if a handful of these "picky eaters" simply have parents who suck at cooking. Parents who don't understand that they're doing it wrong and ruining the food. Or in the very least, don't realize that there's a much better way to prepare the food that's just as healthy (if not more) than what they were doing before, but is nevertheless less likely to be rejected by the child.

That said, "supertaster." Is it enough of a phenomenon to justify its own thread? Parents who spoil picky eater children?
 
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I sometimes wonder if a handful of these "picky eaters" simply have parents who suck at cooking. Parents who don't understand that they're doing it wrong and ruining the food.

That said, "supertaster." Is it enough of a phenomenon to justify its own thread? Parents who spoil picky eater children?
I think more general bad parents excusing their kids mostly normal struggles with quirky labels could have more mileage.
 
Picky eating is solved by letting them go hungry. Worked for me and my siblings.
"The food in this house is freshly baked and cooked by your mother. You don't want it? Don't eat it. You'll want it eventually". - My old man.

Yep. Best way to handle it. Force feeding them is just as bad as indulging their picky habits.

Sometimes kids just aren't hungry yet. Make them stay at the table but just tell them fine you don't have to eat now but this is what you will eat later when you do get hungry.
 
I don't want nukes to fly, but if they do, the thought of these people getting wiped out will comfort me.
I remember that in the print edition, there was a second photo that included both parties' children, but I could be remembering wrong because I can't find it.
NYT Article

Turns out the cheating couple told many lies, what a surprise

Edit: even if "supertasters" exist, that's their responsibility to deal with. They can't go around (as fucking adults, many of them) treating all food in existence as some kind of intentional affront to them. Don't go the fucking restaurant if it doesn't sell plain toast with no butter and a basket of chips at dinner service.

WRT the stupid child, why do North Americans feed their children a shortlist of recently-invented fast food? Children eat the same food as adults, just smaller, in every single other fucking part of the world. Japanese children don't eat potatoes for 18 years and then fearfully try a rare steak, nor do Indian children avoid all of their traditional foods until university. What is this anti-food lunacy? Is that Kellogg man to blame again? What a legend.
 
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WRT the stupid child, why do North Americans feed their children a shortlist of recently-invented fast food? Children eat the same food as adults, just smaller, in every single other fucking part of the world. Japanese children don't eat potatoes for 18 years and then fearfully try a rare steak, nor do Indian children avoid all of their traditional foods until university. What is this anti-food lunacy? Is that Kellogg man to blame again? What a legend.

Probably because Americans in general suck at cooking, and don't have a clue what to do when they need to feed their children.

I will never understand people who can't cook. It's as easy as following a set of written instructions. If you know how to read, you know how to cook.

I even have family members and friends who think I'm an amazing cook. I'm actually just a sped who's at least smart enough to pull stuff up on his phone, or print it out on 8x11 inch sheets of paper. If I didn't have the internet, I'd go to the library or to the bookstore for cookbooks.
 
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“Please, hon, just eat a little bit of turkey and potatoes and you can have a big chocolate brownie for dessert.” I brought bribery brownies with me because pumpkin pie looked too much like a vegetable to him and he would not try it.

At home, when it was just us, he kept his own bottle of ketchup beside him at the table, ate the mashed potatoes I made him while he pulled his chair over to the kitchen counter to eye me suspiciously. “Can I trust these?” he would ask and I would sigh and push aside the parsnips I was about to mash in when he wasn’t looking.
It's clear this lady is a shitty parent, not because she didn't try but because she's doing it wrong. You're not supposed to bribe your kids with junk food or sneak vegetables in their food. All you'll teach them is that you're lying to them, and that everything can be debated because eventually you'll give in. Respecting the effort it takes to cook a meal and getting proper nutrition are non-negotiable. With this attitude I bet the mom is horrible with other things like screen time, bed time, etc.

I think being authoritarian around food will cause more harm than good, but unless the kid has allergies/some other condition out of their control, they need to be told "this is what's for dinner, and you can either eat it or be hungry". I think there's even a way to make speds try new foods and eat healthy ones, even with sensory issues, so IMO that's not an excuse for any kid to subsist on tendies and hot dogs. The fact that the kid was also refusing to eat the in-laws' Thanksgiving food tells me it's not Mom's shitty cooking that's the problem either, it's the enabling.
 
The fact that the kid was also refusing to eat the in-laws' Thanksgiving food tells me it's not Mom's shitty cooking that's the problem either, it's the enabling.
Some of these cunts will bring food with them to your house and not tell you until after you've started cooking. "Oh can you heat up these frozen chicken nuggets for Sam? She doesn't like chicken/pork/beef/tofu/corn/carrots/beans".
 
I sometimes wonder if a handful of these "picky eaters" simply have parents who suck at cooking. Parents who don't understand that they're doing it wrong and ruining the food. Or in the very least, don't realize that there's a much better way to prepare the food that's just as healthy (if not more) than what they were doing before, but is nevertheless less likely to be rejected by the child.

That said, "supertaster." Is it enough of a phenomenon to justify its own thread? Parents who spoil picky eater children?
Taste tends to develop as you grow older. Children tend to prefer anything that is sweet and easy to chew.
As you grow older you start to crave things like a juicy steak more.
But the reason why you shouldn't placate picky eaters is because if you just let them eat fast food then they'll lack vital nutrients. You'll be stunting their growth both physically and intellectually.
There's also the danger that they'll never learn to eat anything but fast food and sweets. You'll then be raising a manbaby with clear signs of a lackluster diet.
 
Thanksgiving food is ass anyway unless you know how to cook it

Which a lot of people don't
So this woman spoiled her child's taste by feeding him only little kid food. I think the solution to anything like this is to let the brat go hungry until he appreciates this quality handmade food.
He could just do what me and my sister did and fill up on rolls in that case

Better than turkey that was drier than Ben Shapiro's wife.
 
I think there's a massive difference between a kid not wanting to eat Aunt Edna's green bean casserole or candied yams and refusing to eat turkey and mashed potatoes. The latter is horrifying, there has to be something seriously wrong with that kid's gut flora.
Or the turkey they are being served is drier than Death Valley. Don't need a diagnosis to find that unappealing.
 
I didn't even realize you could voluntarily override the natural urge to drop one beyond a certain point.
At some point the turds get packed so tight they become a single hard as a rock megaturd and it is large to fit out the butt hole without tearing your o ring, and usually requires a serious enema and muscle relaxers, or in the worst case surgical intervention.
Same thing can happen to cats or dogs.
 
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