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Which is Better

  • Chicken Little

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  • Hunchback 2

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A Sentient Cloud said:
It’s not that it’s haaaaaaard, it’s that Disney simply no longer has the infrastructure for hand drawn animation. A 3D animation studio can’t just pivot to hand-drawn, they’re entirely different skillsets and workflows.
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Not having the right skill set guaranteed I never got the right job after college. :(
 
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Watched the Wish camrip last night. I really have nothing to say about it. It was boring. Disappointing. No surprises. Barely any emotional depth. Forgettable songs with overly wordy lyrics. Bland visuals. I could write a whole essay about what was wrong and what little went right, but it all boils down to suit meddling and Wish reeks of it from start to finish. Ah well. I'm interested in what general audiences think.

Also, Magnifico did nothing wrong.
 
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Alter Ego said:
No kidding. In recent years, I went to the new Academy Museum of Motion Pictures in Los Angeles. One room that was specifically about animated films included a small slideshow display about the cartoon no-no's of the past. This was mainly to do with minstrels and the like, but about half of the content and the cartoons they cited to be lumped into this pile of shame genuinely pissed me off when I saw them:
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I found a couple of articles talking about this particular display:
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Boy, if they think the decoma-via-kiss-theft trope is problematic, they're going to be really upset when they find out about the princess-awakening method for which it was the G-rated replacement.

 
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So did they even go the route of “The King can be dickish on his interpretations of wishes”?

I feel like that could be a natural source of conflict if he’ll play word games, but so far it seems like they slapped together a bad villain rather than trying to do a fairy tale because that’s sexist to the Californian women who run Disney.
 
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Saaivas said:
It's even worse than I expected and my expectations dropped to zero after seeing the ''villain'' song.
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Funny enough, Trolls 3 is getting better reviews and this went against Wish, like all around (aside from The Little Mermaid REMAKE (with the exception of the Scuttlebutt song), Indiana Jones 5, and Elemental) all of Disney's films this year were garbage. Christ, I don't think they will make it to the end of the year.
 
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Wish looked boring from the trailers, although some of these reviews explain better what triggers that overwhelming sense of blandness. I thought her dress was definitely medieval peasant save for the color. She looked like a background character.

Her grandfather's wish is a particularly striking sort of trash if that's accurate. This man at 18, his greatest goal was to inspire the youth? He was the youth, way to check out of your whole life your ambitionless sod. What a waste of a 100 years of life. I guess that explains why he's so damn old to have only a 17 year old granddaughter. Probably took him 50 years to get up the ambition to date.

Disney has overcome some dark times, maybe it will have another rebirth after dragging itself through another decade of tripe, or maybe the well has just run dry.

Disney probably could go back to 2d, just not the classic manner. It would just be the digital style. They would still be working on their computers, plenty of 2d animation programs or features even in 3rd commercial software, though they would probably cook up something in house. They got rid of the equipment to make traditional 2d animation drawn on paper and shot with cameras, but they could probably find a way to push vector animation into something striking if they can find that kind of ambition.
 
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HodgePodgeRogerDodger said:
So did they even go the route of “The King can be dickish on his interpretations of wishes”?

I feel like that could be a natural source of conflict if he’ll play word games, but so far it seems like they slapped together a bad villain rather than trying to do a fairy tale because that’s sexist to the Californian women who run Disney.
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They actually went with the exact opposite: He’s paranoid about vague wishes as he has no control over how the wishes play out. The inciting moment is when he won’t actually grant her grandfather’s wish due to it being “inspire the next generation”.
 
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Both of these are supposed to be afro latino or something.
One of these is a main character, one a side character... disney does realise that one of the reasons that elsa was so popular with lil girls was that her design was really pretty with nice hair and a glamorous glittery gown, right?

(Also, one is a bit mean to her younger sister bc their grandma is emotionally abusive, the other overthrew a kingdom bc idk she felt like it)

Also, wtf is that weird scrunching on the side of her dress?? Its ugly and distracting
 
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SpiderBitch said:
Also, wtf is that weird scrunching on the side of her dress?? Its ugly and distracting
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This movie was run by amateurs, and you can see it in every detail.

Take the dress scrunch- they're clearly going for a 14th century look with a chimese, kirtle, and belt. If you look at 14th century art, as I'm sure the animators did, you'd notice a lot of the women's dresses are pulled up and pinned in a similar fashion.

The thing is, they did this because their dresses trailed on the ground, and pinning/holding them up was necessary to be able to walk without tripping. Asha should not have this issue because her dress is higher and easy to move in. The costume designers slapped on a detail that makes no sense in context and makes everything look worse.

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Amateurs all the way down. Don't even get me started on the shot composition, lord it's terrible.
 
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Bluefeet said:
This movie was run by amateurs, and you can see it in every detail.

Take the dress scrunch- they're clearly going for a 14th century look with a chimese, kirtle, and belt. If you look at 14th century art, as I'm sure the animators did, you'd notice a lot of the women's dresses are pulled up and pinned in a similar fashion.

The thing is, they did this because their dresses trailed on the ground, and pinning/holding them up was necessary to be able to walk without tripping. Asha should not have this issue because her dress is higher and easy to move in. The costume designers slapped on a detail that makes no sense in context and makes everything look worse.

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Amateurs all the way down. Don't even get me started on the shot composition, lord it's terrible.
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But at least Disney met it's diversity quotas and saved by not hiring union workers amirite?
 
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SpiderBitch said:
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Both of these are supposed to be afro latino or something.
One of these is a main character, one a side character... disney does realise that one of the reasons that elsa was so popular with lil girls was that her design was really pretty with nice hair and a glamorous glittery gown, right?

(Also, one is a bit mean to her younger sister bc their grandma is emotionally abusive, the other overthrew a kingdom bc idk she felt like it)

Also, wtf is that weird scrunching on the side of her dress?? Its ugly and distracting
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Isabela's just plain Latino, it's the other side of the family that's got black ancestry. But you're right- I'm pretty sure Isabela's merch sold the best out of all of the characters precisely because she's pretty and glamorous and graceful with a pretty pink dress. Why they didn't give Asha a dress transformation or something in order to fill the "awesome sparkly dress that will sell like hotcakes" niche is beyond me. Instead, all she gets is a ripoff of the Fairy Godmother's cloak.
 
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