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Actually, Go Ahead and Bring Up Abortion Over Turkey and Stuffing This Year​

We’ve been inundated with horrifying stories since the Supreme Court overruled Roe v. Wade, clearing the way for elderly male legislators to interject themselves into extremely personal medical decisions. But one story I read last week sent a particular chill up my spine and has haunted me ever since.

The New York Times took a brief break from visiting rural diners to talk to people who say they would vote for Kamala Harris but not for Joe Biden for president in 2024. Their reasons ranged from Biden being “too old” to “a bit of a doofus” (OK, fair if the stakes weren’t so high), but one woman’s answer stood out. She told the reporter that she strongly supports abortion rights and that that issue would decide her vote. Because abortion bans went into effect during Biden’s presidency, she blamed him. She had no idea that Biden shares her support for reproductive freedom.

For days my social media feeds were full of journalists and other chronically online types sharing this quote in horror, wondering where they had gone wrong. For people so immersed in the news, it’s mind-boggling to see such a failure to grasp even the basic “who” and “what” of one of the biggest stories of the past few years. How could someone be so confused that they plan to vote for Donald J. Trump, or any Republican, in the hopes of restoring abortion rights?
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Now, it is easy to make fun of this woman (who by the end of the interview seemed ready to vote for Biden), but the disturbing thing is there are probably a lot of people out there like her. They’re the famed “independent” or “swing” voters who political campaigns obsess about winning over, and chances are they are not purposefully evil or fascist or even immersed in the Fox News alternate universe. They just haven’t been paying attention.

Hey, people are busy! Maybe they’re working three jobs in a gig economy, or maybe they just have better things to do with their free time than endlessly doomscrolling. Can’t relate, but I’m not judging. They have lives, and that sounds nice for them. But they are out there, and they are terrifying because they have the power to decide elections.

Chances are you will be sitting across from some of these terrifyingly powerful people at the dinner table this holiday season, and that might be an opportunity. The conventional wisdom is to avoid hot-button topics in polite conversation, but what if we screw the conventional wisdom? If a segment of the population isn’t reading or is actively avoiding the news, this is what it takes to reach them. The people in their lives need to talk to them directly.

Now I’m not suggesting that you confront your racist uncle or argue with your evangelical cousin about when life begins. What would be the point of that? You don’t even have to try to persuade anyone because abortion rights are already hugely popular. We just need people who care about it to vote and to vote for the right people.

A recent Wall Street Journal poll found support for abortion rights is at near-record levels. Roughly 55% of Americans support a person’s unrestricted right to choose, any time, for any reason—including about a third of Republicans and more than half of independents. For years, Democrats avoided talking about reproductive rights because they feared turning off voters, but now that the damage has been done, recent election victories have proven that this is a hugely winning issue for them. It’s far from the only important issue these days, but it’s one that drives a lot of voters to the polls.

So far that hasn’t really translated into support for Biden. There are various reasons for that, but it’s not helping that people still weirdly talk about Trump like he’s a moderate on abortion in spite of the fact that he proudly takes credit for enabling bans by appointing three conservative justices to the Supreme Court.

“I was able to do something that nobody thought was possible, end Roe v. Wade,” Trump bragged on Truth Social. “For 52 years, people talked, spent vast amounts of money, but couldn’t get the job done. I got the job done!” Maybe we don’t focus on this as much because of all the criminal indictments and fascist threats, but he’s been very clear about where he stands!

Now doesn’t that sound like some excellent material for catching up with relatives you haven’t seen in months?

Okay, maybe not at the dinner table, but it might be worth considering over the next year until the election taking some of those opportunities as they come, to interact with people outside our usual orbits. You don’t have to start an argument or a confrontation, just talk about what’s going on in the world and try to raise some awareness among people who might not be as glued to the news cycle about abortion or whatever issue suits you and the situation. Maybe ask a question and have an inquisitive conversation that leads someone to their own realization, like the New York Times reporter did.

I know, I know, talking to people. I hate the idea too.

But what’s the worst that could happen? Well, for starters, there’s the possibility of another Trump presidency, a national abortion ban, and the end of democracy as we know it, so there’s all that. In that context, the prospect of having some uncomfortable conversations maybe doesn’t seem so bad, even to this socially awkward introvert.
 
Hey, maybe people wouldn't be ignorant of current events and avoid the news if you slime balls didn't constantly lie. Like for example, calling Trump a fascist when he's nowhere near close to being a fascist. Or perhaps not glossing over the fact that Roe v Wade was decided by all men, and a nearly all white bench; and was overturned by the help of a woman and a black man. Or would that not fit the narrative? Or for another one, you could stop saying the economy is doing great when we can all see that's not true. Just some food for thought.
 
While Biden may pay lipservice to killing babies, the observable fact is killing babies became "maybe sorta not okay, it's up to the States now" on his shift. Nevermind that it was an entirely different branch of government, it happened on his watch and he did very little to stop it or even say "no, please, let's make a deal here." You can't be feeding monkeys bananas, then paint your penis yellow, and then get mad that your dick got ripped off.
 
eating turkey is cruel
they're one of the dumbest fucking birds alive and basically exist to be eaten by predators, doing what we do to them is a mercy as far as I'm concerned. I'm so tired of them wandering onto my property, wild, literally begging to be devoured. Not a drop of irony or sarcasm.
 
Why are women who have had dozens of innocent human lives butchered and vacuumed from their diseased wombs always so
FUCKING UGLY?
Ugly thoughts turn people ugly.

the end of democracy as we know it
Nigger, you're a bunch of hard left "democratic" socialists. The end of democracy as you know it is what your stickiest wet dreams are all about.
 
She had no idea that Biden shares her support for reproductive freedom.
Now, it is easy to make fun of this woman (who by the end of the interview seemed ready to vote for Biden),
>This really happened.

Why are women who have had dozens of innocent human lives butchered and vacuumed from their diseased wombs always so
FUCKING UGLY?
Why would people support ban on abortions? If not for abortions we would've had more people like her and more junkies, bums and scizos. I say make abortions as affordable and as easily as possible. Abotion for every poor household around the world! Why do we need their children, born into poverty, neglected and hated by their parents, destined to follow in their footspteps?
 
they're one of the dumbest fucking birds alive and basically exist to be eaten by predators, doing what we do to them is a mercy as far as I'm concerned. I'm so tired of them wandering onto my property, wild, literally begging to be devoured. Not a drop of irony or sarcasm.
I feel a similar way about pheasant. That's purely dependant on my geography though, I suspect.
 
The same person who argues claiming that “fetuses not being babies” is a scientific fact, will almost certainly argue eating turkey is cruel and a meat substitute should be used instead.
Facts. I'll respect the life of a turkey before that of a human. Miss me with that shit.
 
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