Quirky Indie RPGs - Depression is optional

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Warioware Indie RPG launch trailer:
I don't know why but I got pretty big Mother 4 vibes from it (Winter 2014 was almost 10 years ago holy shit). It looks cool though, I know its pretty stereotypical of the "Quirky Indie RPG" genre but I always liked this subgenre of game as long as I play them every once and a while.
 
Warioware Indie RPG launch trailer:
I've been watching the release and wow, lukewarm barely describes it.
I didn't expect gangbusters but I certainly expected more. None of the big outlets have reviewed it yet (which is strange as Brophy has a publisher and copies were seemingly offered).
The official subreddit has a single post by Andrew and the only thread on reddit discussing it's release has 10 - mostly filler - comments.
 
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Since nothing is quirkier than agony, I've been getting a kick of looking into Fear & Hunger after seeing the Oney Plays lads have a go at it. I've pretty much spoiled myself of most of Fear & Hunger 1s bullshit and lore, but have made a conscious exercise to avoid Fear & Hunger 2. Anybody that has played either or both want to share some takes on them? Specially the second one.
 
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Well... maybe not quite soulless, but 100% faggotry that poisoned the wells for years to come.
Where did we go so wrong?
Also, that area with the brick walls and the fleur de lis in the background is trying soooo hard to be The Ruins from UNDERTALE. That sketchy world map of the castle is also suspiciously DELTARUNE-y.
As if Not-Ralsei from the video thumbnail didn't feel like it was trying to ape Deltarune enough already.
 
Since nothing is quirkier than agony, I've been getting a kick of looking into Fear & Hunger after seeing the Oney Plays lads have a go at it. I've pretty much spoiled myself of most of Fear & Hunger 1s bullshit and lore, but have made a conscious exercise to avoid Fear & Hunger 2. Anybody that has played either or both want to share some takes on them? Specially the second one.
I get the appeal of watching Let's Plays of those games, but actively playing them seems like a time waster. The lack of easy save feature makes experimentation not worth it and your choice is either banging you head against the wall, or reading the wiki for how to go through each interaction without soft locking your adventure without being able to do anything.

The second game is at least far less randomized with set save stations, but the focus on the plot makes replays time consuming and mistakes can fuck up hours of game time.
 
I get the appeal of watching Let's Plays of those games, but actively playing them seems like a time waster. The lack of easy save feature makes experimentation not worth it and your choice is either banging you head against the wall, or reading the wiki for how to go through each interaction without soft locking your adventure without being able to do anything.

The second game is at least far less randomized with set save stations, but the focus on the plot makes replays time consuming and mistakes can fuck up hours of game time.
Mmm, I did manage to play through a good chunk of Demon King Chronicle, but I did enable the debug feature that allowed saving anywhere so yeah... I see your point. Sounds like I'll keep vicariously living through others when it comes to that one then.
 
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Mmm, I did manage to play through a good chunk of Demon King Chronicle, but I did enable the debug feature that allowed saving anywhere so yeah... I see your point. Sounds like I'll keep vicariously living through others when it comes to that one then.
If you bounced off of Demon King Chronicle, chances are you won't get too much out of Fear and Hunger because it is an even bigger ballbuster.

RPG Maker games basically live and die by having weird mechanics or an interesting storyline.

Did you go through that list I gave you way back?
 
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If you bounced off of Demon King Chronicle, chances are you won't get too much out of Fear and Hunger because it is an even bigger ballbuster.

RPG Maker games basically live and die by having weird mechanics or an interesting storyline.

Did you go through that list I gave you way back?
I wouldn't say I bounced off, I finished the main game (https://lparchive.org/Demon-King-Chronicle/Update 18/) but then I looked at what doing the "postgame" and secret bosses would entail and I noped out. I will say that I did enjoy getting the hang of the system and going from dying to EVERYTHING to understanding what to focus on and what not. But one of the biggest factors I stuck with it was that in the debug menu I had save everywhere, I can imagine how Fear and Hunger could drive me up the wall with that, though a part of me is still very curious about it.

As for your suggestions


I have Lisa in the imminent to play, Fear and Hunger is tempting me to give it a go. I've spoiled myself of the first one pretty thoroughly so seems like I should start with 2 if anything, second I started watching some videos but still undecided if giving it a go.

Also, rereading your post you mention

Exit Fate is very close behind...
...but play Last Scenario first.

Is last scenario a part of Exit Fate or a different thing outright?

EDIT: On the topic if Fear & Hunger 2 I did see enough to know there is a fucking tranny, is this in any way "political" or is it just weird shit that happens in the world? Since if it's the former it gets a hard pass.
 
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Last Scenario and Exit Fate and by the same guy and kind of in the same universe, but unrelated except for a few nods. Last Scenario is his earlier work.

Fear and Hunger basically got popular off the tranny in 2. You know, like how Coffin of Andy and Leyley got popular off of the incest.

As for Fear and Hunger... FnH1 can be edited to give you a bunch of save books but that might be excessive.

As for the troon not a political thing in-game, there's a very specific in-world reason for it that is a good-enough justification. However, it feels like it was handled in an IRL political way, if that makes sense. They pass absolutely perfectly, for example.
 
EDIT: On the topic if Fear & Hunger 2 I did see enough to know there is a fucking tranny, is this in any way "political" or is it just weird shit that happens in the world? Since if it's the former it gets a hard pass.
It's the Bridget case where a boy was raised as a girl because some bullshit political situation and of course he looks like a pretty girl (well, at least as much as the art style allows). At least because the setting is grimdark he isn't some beacon of virtue. There is some bullshit of some good god of communism and evil god of fascism but that might be YouTubers forcing their political takes into the game.


Fear and Hunger basically got popular off the tranny in 2. You know, like how Coffin of Andy and Leyley got popular off of the incest.
That sounds about right for clown world. It helps it's a good game for streaming since streamers have infinite time to waste and can rely on superchats instead of a walkthrough.
 
As for the troon not a political thing in-game, there's a very specific in-world reason for it that is a good-enough justification. However, it feels like it was handled in an IRL political way, if that makes sense. They pass absolutely perfectly, for example.
It's the Bridget case where a boy was raised as a girl because some bullshit political situation and of course he looks like a pretty girl (well, at least as much as the art style allows). At least because the setting is grimdark he isn't some beacon of virtue. There is some bullshit of some good god of communism and evil god of fascism but that might be YouTubers forcing their political takes into the game.
Yeah, was going through the Worm Girl lore video on termina and between dumping a fucking tranny flag while talking about the character and how autistic the setting seemed to be about WW2 I was starting to go into "is this fucking propaganda again?". I do get the impression that it's more the usual suspects projecting, but not really sure. I'm still interested so don't discount dropping 10 bucks for it, but it also sounds like the discourse around it will be a lot more annoying than F&H1.
 
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Well... maybe not quite soulless, but 100% faggotry that poisoned the wells for years to come.
Where did we go so wrong?

As if Not-Ralsei from the video thumbnail didn't feel like it was trying to ape Deltarune enough already.
1) Gamergate happened
2) Commiefornia happened
3) Even back in the day you had hacks like Phil Fish and Jonothan Blow trying to make their Indie platformers into some artsy thing that "the plebs would never understand." This kind of thinking is what's poisoned the indie game scene to this very day.
4) Most of these dudes can't be bothered to try and make something more ambitious beyond a "RPG Maker game or visual novel with quirky characters made for Twitter".
 
I've been watching the release and wow, lukewarm barely describes it.
I didn't expect gangbusters but I certainly expected more. None of the big outlets have reviewed it yet (which is strange as Brophy has a publisher and copies were seemingly offered).
The official subreddit has a single post by Andrew and the only thread on reddit discussing it's release has 10 - mostly filler - comments.

It stealth released at an awful timing between black friday, steam autumn sale, game awards, school finals etc. The only game with worse timing is probably Omori that released on christmas and i actually played that on release (it's really funny how small the subreddit was back then and people whined about no big youtuber playing it, back then i said that was a good thing, and it was).

KS is still weirdly dead on arrival tho, like it has nowhere for normies to talk about it other than twitter with a link to discord and the kickstarter page, which isnt linked anywhere on it's own website. Like, there is more people talking about it here on kiwifarms than it's own subreddit. Not like reddit is great platform either but Andrew could've done an AMA on r/jrpg (the rat rpg devs did it) or crosspost his shit into the wario ware or earthbound subreddits, but the most he ever did was do an AMA about the kickstarter on r/games 5 years ago.

In fact, it's so dead that apparently nobody bothered cracking it yet so i cant pirate it! I guess i'll pirate In stars and time for now and see how it goes.
 
(it's really funny how small the subreddit was back then and people whined about no big youtuber playing it, back then i said that was a good thing, and it was).
I saw that sub was apparently created all the way back in 2014, what was it like pre-release there? I'm sure it was probably filled with posts complaining about the game taking forever to come out, but I'd be surprised if there are any OG oldfags there still using the sub after it's been pretty much infested with brain damaged, emotionally stunted children.
 
Lack of attention actually makes me more interested since a lot of the games with really crunchy mechanics tend to get ignored by the subset of gamers that fawn over quirkiness. I'm in the mood for pain and have 6 hours to kill tomorrow; I'll check it out if it does get cracked by then.

Another one getting zero attention that's actually worth a look is Wyvia:


It's just absolutely unapologetic about being action-rpg Dragon Warrior with earthbound humor and costs 8 bucks. I've been flipping over to it for 10 minute stretches when I'm on call and there's no work to be done. It's simple, braindead and has fun skills, and there's really not much more to say about it.
 
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