Not Just Bikes / r/fuckcars / Urbanists / New Urbanism / Car-Free / Anti-Car - People and grifters who hate personal transport, freedom, cars, roads, suburbs, and are obsessed with city planning and urban design

Very interesting discovery with the sim racing-fuckcars hybrid of a redditor. There does seem to be a contingent of weird left/progressive types in the sim/online racing community nowadays (as with any hobby now really), including the oval racing side of things which is doubly weird. I've been involved in sim racing for a good bit myself so I just encounter some people like that at random. A combo of leftist politics and love of motorsports seems a little dissonant.
And of course there's always been the type of consoomer-y person who builds an insane(ly expensive) setup just to drive very mediocrely in whatever they play. Which, maybe it's not terrible to have fun the way you want, but at some point it just seems purely excessive lol.

What I wonder, is if those said anti-car people, are also into simcade and arcade racing games (i.e. Gran Turismo, Forza, Need for Speed, The Crew, heck you can even throw the F1 and WRC games into this list too) or if they only stick to sim racing?
 
The sad thing is that he's not wrong that Washington DC sucks and that's why he feels the way he does. Is he too dumb and/or emotionally immature to realize that having roads has nothing to do with feeling depressed, or is he actively suppressing it?
Disagree.

DC is extremely underrated. It's got a reputation for being the staid and boring capitol city, for obvious reasons, but if you've got the right guide, DC can be a very fun town.

And the metro is a huge boon to doing stuff in DC. You can go out drinking all night and catch the metro at the end of the night, no designated driver necessary.

But when you do have to drive in DC, the traffic is godawful though.
Oddly for someone who hates cars, OP has a very expensive simracing setup:
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The brake pedal alone is $2300:
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The full setup probably costs more than a new car:
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and despite all this investment, he's a mediocre driver:
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No, if you were actually good enough to race 5k rated drivers, you would be rated 5k as well.
When professional race car drivers join iRacing, their iRating chart looks like a vertical line because the ELO system quickly boosts their rating up to their actual skill level:
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Oh god, I've got a friend who's into simracing.

Shit's the most autistic thing I've ever encountered. No criticism here, we've all got our quirks, and my friend is otherwise normal. But yeah, it's bizarre the extent to which people get obsessed with that hobby.
 
I'll never get how sim equipment like this can get so expensive. I get it's niche stuff made in small quantities, but come on. Not even stupid overpriced flight sim gear quite reaches the level of paying 4 digits for a single axis controller.
I'm seeing $2300, and that's only a few hundred short of what I paid for my 03 Chevy Malibu. As in the entire fucking car. And that brake pedal actually works and shit. Ridiculous. And the guy hates cars apparently! Why drive in a vidya when you hate what it's based on???
 
I'm seeing $2300, and that's only a few hundred short of what I paid for my 03 Chevy Malibu. As in the entire fucking car. And that brake pedal actually works and shit. Ridiculous. And the guy hates cars apparently! Why drive in a vidya when you hate what it's based on???
I bet your car cost less than his bicycle, yet according to urbanists, the poor can’t afford to drive because a brand new luxury car costs $75k.
 
I bet your car cost less than his bicycle, yet according to urbanists, the poor can’t afford to drive because a brand new luxury car costs $75k.
Listen, I had to put some work into my car, but even with that you're looking at $2900+ roughly 1000 in repairs, and even then, with gas costs... I'm no where close to 75k. Even LIFECYCLE COSTS, the car from my research is basically dead at 180k miles, and I'm just barely half way to that, and plan on getting something better before then, something old but solid like a old Lincon for 5-6k. Even then, I could always overhaul the car at 180k miles and keep it running, it's just a machine after all
 
What I wonder, is if those said anti-car people, are also into simcade and arcade racing games (i.e. Gran Turismo, Forza, Need for Speed, The Crew, heck you can even throw the F1 and WRC games into this list too) or if they only stick to sim racing?
I've seen them mention Forza and Mario Kart by name once or twice on their subreddit, but not frequently. I could definitely seem them being into racing games in general because at their core they are guys who like cars that are coping with the fact.

What does a $2000 bicycle do that a normal bike can't? Or a £1000 second-hand Peugeot for that matter?
I think it's their equivalent of a flex. In their minds they think that spending absurd amounts of money on something justifies demanding admiration from people. This is going to sound autistic, but I remember there was a joke in an anime where a cyclist says to himself how superior he is for spending several thousand on a bike only to get blown away by a high school girl on a cheap Yamaha dirtbike.

Why drive in a vidya when you hate what it's based on???
Usually it's to save money, but that applies to people who are using the base model Logitech/Thrustmaster steering wheels. Not the extreme setup he has, which could probably pay for a cheap car to be used for autocross or an actual track day. Sims are good for training on off days where you aren't driving, but cannot replace the experience of the real thing. Edit sorry I read your post again: As I said above fundamentally they're guys who like cars but feel guilty about it so they come up with these weird copes about why this is ok.
 
Usually it's to save money, but that applies to people who are using the base model Logitech/Thrustmaster steering wheels. Not the extreme setup he has, which could probably pay for a cheap car to be used for autocross or an actual track day. Sims are good for training on off days where you aren't driving, but cannot replace the experience of the real thing. Edit sorry I read your post again: As I said above fundamentally they're guys who like cars but feel guilty about it so they come up with these weird copes about why this is ok.
It's not even that simulators can't be important, ask any jet pilot, but eventually if you want to fly a plane, you gotta get in a jet. And you're right about the cope. Excusing it with "its just a game" would work if, you know, you didn't spend the money to buy a car to play said game
 
Don't you dare smile at me!
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They hated him because he spoke the truth:

We know that with language like "people vs. cars" is about dehumanizing other people so you can justify your hatred of them, but this "do NOT be nice to me so I don't have doubts about my hatred" is some next-level stuff. We're all desensitized to terms like "hatred" and "racism" over the most petty bullshit, but there's some real psychological issues with these people.
 
This matches my experiences dealing with car-free retards in real life when I lived in a very transit-dependent city.
They were always taking Ubers and begging for rides from their friends and family who own cars:
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No, you're not sharing a car. The other guy had to drive out of their way to pick you up/drop you off, meaning that the time spent transporting you was not time spent transporting them. This is of course assuming that you don't live near one another, because if you did you probably would have worked out a long-term carpooling agreement.

This person at least is logically consistent:
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"If you want to hang out with me you have to chauffeur me around like a little kid":
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At least he offers to pay for gas though he stiffs his EV-owning friends on their electricity costs.
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This confirms that the FuckCars people all see themselves as deserving of Chauffeurs while they tax the ever living shit out of the people transporting them around.
 
What does a $2000 bicycle do that a normal bike can't? Or a £1000 second-hand Peugeot for that matter?
I'm coming from a sport perspective (mountain biking) not a commuting one but a $2000 bike is vastly different from a $100 bike from Walmart. With a $2k bike it's going to be significantly lighter & stronger, you get disc brakes which stop better than cheap V brakes, you probably have clipless pedals which makes pedaling more efficient, and handle bars that let you lean forward into a more aerodynamic position for descents or headwinds.

I think it's their equivalent of a flex. In their minds they think that spending absurd amounts of money on something justifies demanding admiration from people.
How expensive a bike is is definitely a flex but it's also a show of how skilled you are and how much time you put in to the hobby. For road biking if you're just commuting you can be perfectly fine with the $200 you spent on your bike and panniers to get around. But if you're into the sport, you're chasing times, doing centuries, or just picking somewhere nice you like to ride the $200 bike is going to be inadequate for doing it. But with that you have complete Fred's who want to be seen that way and drop $10,000 on an S-Works bike to pose.
 
How expensive a bike is is definitely a flex but it's also a show of how skilled you are and how much time you put in to the hobby. For road biking if you're just commuting you can be perfectly fine with the $200 you spent on your bike and panniers to get around. But if you're into the sport, you're chasing times, doing centuries, or just picking somewhere nice you like to ride the $200 bike is going to be inadequate for doing it. But with that you have complete Fred's who want to be seen that way and drop $10,000 on an S-Works bike to pose.
Normally I wouldn't be too critical on what people spend their own money on, but we're talking about the same people who would criticize someone for spending "too much money" on a truck and make the cliche comment about the size of their genitals. I'm just saying something something glass house something something stones.
 
Very interesting discovery with the sim racing-fuckcars hybrid of a redditor. There does seem to be a contingent of weird left/progressive types in the sim/online racing community nowadays (as with any hobby now really), including the oval racing side of things which is doubly weird. I've been involved in sim racing for a good bit myself so I just encounter some people like that at random. A combo of leftist politics and love of motorsports seems a little dissonant.
And of course there's always been the type of consoomer-y person who builds an insane(ly expensive) setup just to drive very mediocrely in whatever they play. Which, maybe it's not terrible to have fun the way you want, but at some point it just seems purely excessive lol.
This is almost the perfect definition of double think. Say one thing, do another, and somehow make it into some hybrid third fuck up thing. I am somewhat impressed this person can go this far into their own bullshit.
 
What's the joke with these guys?
As I understand they do the training in-house and as soon as they can pass the CDL (Commercial Drivers License) exam, they're stuck in a truck and sent off into the world. I assume they train in cities and places without hills. So they get out here to the rural west and end up stuck on roads that trucks can't go up or curves too sharp, or overpasses too low. It probably also doesn't help they're one of the 5 largest carriers in the US, so just statistically they're going to show up in the news more.

Any time there's a report of a truck accident in the news around here, usually minor, the first question is "Was it Swift?" and most of the time, the answer is "Yes"

 
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Awww, he forgot about us:
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Here's the context he says we leave out:
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More related tweets that aren't part of the thread:
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He hates YouTube comments and only keeps them on because no one trusts videos with the comments turned off:
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We all know he spends hours a day censoring his comment section to prevent any disagreement, no matter how minor.
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Someone points out that cities around the world are building more transit. Jason tells them it doesn't count because they're run by Progressives:
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Chile is far from the Netherlands, but so is Canada and he's traveled there several times since moving to Europe. I wonder if there's another reason why he doesn't want to see Latin American urbanism...
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People who tell him that running from his problems isn't productive are just jealous of his wealth or too attached to their family and friends:
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Jason tells a leftist fan who can't deal with Chuck's extremely weak cuckservatism to shut up and think of the greater good:
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Per that link, Chuck is apparently a member of the Board of Advisors of a small "Christian Democracy" political party called the Solidarity Party.

His profile (archive) on the site:
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Here's their stance on urbanism:
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They're against lawns and street lights:
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The party did manage to get one of their people put in charge of zoning and development in the small town of Elmendorf, Texas (an exurb of San Antonio):
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Looks like Chuck and friends have done more to advance the cause of urbanism than Jason ever will.

I wonder if the people of Elemndorf would reelect him though if they watched one of Jason's videos and realized how insane urbanists are:
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Their party platform (closest description is "socially conservative (except on immigration and race), fiscally liberal"):
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This is why Jason's fan doesn't like Chuck:
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People who tell him that running from his problems isn't productive are just jealous of his wealth or too attached to their family and friends:
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That's really just wealth and even more wealth. Jason didn't truly leave behind his family and friends, he frequently flies to Canada to visit them. But Jason is part of the techie laptop class that can afford to spend that kind of money.
Meanwhile, the average person, if they can even afford to move out of the country at all, definitely can't just fly back whenever they want. So it's more reasonable for them to stay in the country, where visiting them from there is cheaper.

Just another disconnect between urbanists and regular people.

This is why Jason's fan doesn't like Chuck:
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Again, really weird that basically every urbanist will wax poetic about the externalities of cars (and only the negative externalities), but never the negative externalities of trannies, of which there are many.
 
He says that the paper is conservative and under estimating the benefits of non-car transportation because it ignored these ridiculous externalities:
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I figure I should post the photos of my time on the LA Metro in Downtown LA so we can see how they factor in.
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This was on one train ride. (Burnt or shit, you decide!)

As to CityNerds points:
  • The bike seat is small and it's annoying on my ass. My area has logging trucks and something called the Lewiston grade so I don't think I will enjoy cycling very much.
  • The area I live in is very robust and resilient. In fact, its a preppers dream area. We have fresh water, connection to the Pacific, hydro-electric power, farmland, and one of the largest ammo manufacturers in the U.S.
  • I like to practice target shooting on the shit tier range I have built on my land. Is this an activity I can connect with someone over in an urban apartment?
  • My region is very accessible. As already stated, we are connected to the Pacific ocean and local shuttle services will take old people across into Washington state for the Costco.
  • I am an dude that's gay and half-Japanese in Northern Idaho. I have the same negative rights everyone has.
  • Injun Joe children's are not my problem.
  • We have one of the highest gun ownership rates in the country with the lowest firearm homicide rates.
 
/r/fuckcars user tries to make a gotcha post about parking lots being oversized:
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Unfortunely for OP, the "USians" reported that the lots were full:
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Turns out businesses don't waste money building parking spots that they don't need.

Parking lots are bad when they're empty and bad when they're full:
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OP wasn't happy when someone said that if a train isn't full then it's a waste of space:
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