Law Gabe Newell ordered to make in-person deposition for Valve v. Wolfire Games lawsuit - In an order filed on November 16 in the US District Court for the Western District of Washington, Wolfire Games said Newell "is uniquely positioned to testify on all aspects of [Valve's] business strategy".

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Valve CEO Gabe Newell has been ordered to attend an in-person deposition regarding an antitrust lawsuit filed by Wolfire Games.

In an order filed on November 16 in the US District Court for the Western District of Washington, Wolfire Games said Newell "is uniquely positioned to testify on all aspects of [Valve's] business strategy" and that an in-person deposition "would allow [it] to adequately assess Newell's credibility."

Newell had asked for a remote deposition due to concerns regarding COVID. However, the court said Newell has presented "insubstantial evidence to suggest that he is at particularised risk of serious illness" and, as a result, has been ordered to attend the deposition in person.

The order states that all participants have to wear masks during the deposition, and that Newell must remove his mask when answering questions.

Wolfire Games filed an antitrust lawsuit against Valve in April 2021 for anti-competitive practices on Steam.

The filing centred around the 30% cut that the platform holder takes, with the developer arguing that Valve used "dominance to take an extraordinarily high cut from nearly every sale that passes through its store" and that it has used its position to "exploit publishers and consumers."

The claim was initially dismissed in November 2021, with a US District judge arguing that the complaint did "not articulate sufficient facts to plausibly allege an antitrust injury based on that market."

The document concluded that Wolfire Games could file another complaint addressing the highlighted issues, which it did in May 2022, as reported by Game Developer.

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Summary judgement against if he doesn't?
Probably some variation of "defying an court order" with an fine tacked onto it, since he's supposed to be an witness or something. Realistically speaking, nothing will happen as long as he stays out of the states...Until the court starts bugging the locals to fly him back to America.
 
Probably some variation of "defying an court order" with an fine tacked onto it, since he's supposed to be an witness or something. Realistically speaking, nothing will happen as long as he stays out of the states...Until the court starts bugging the locals to fly him back to America.
Gaben isn't allowed in the states?
 
Gaben isn't allowed in the states?
They'll eventually find an way to mail him an subpoena that basically says "quit fucking around and testify for this retarded case or else." But it shouldn't necessarily result with the local cops vanning him and shipping him to the U.S. if he ignores it. It's supposed to be an monetary sanction, if you're living abroad. But it's not exactly enforceable if all his money is in an foreign bank.
 
Who the fuck are Wolfire Games and why does that name sound familia-

Oh it's the 3 dudes who made Receiver and Receiver 2.

This lawsuit sounds like a dude who's unhappy that he can't use Steam for free advertising and all that shit and at the same time sell the game on other storefronts for cheaper. Why would Steam want to keep your game listed on their service if you were deliberately ensuring they weren't getting sales of that game on their platform by undercutting the price elsewhere? And how is it a monopoly if you literally have a zillion other ways to sell your game if you don't want to abide by Steam's terms? Go sell your game on itch.io or on your own website, or on Epic's storefront or whatever else. Who's stopping you?

These Wolfire guys sound like loser retards which is sad because the Receiver games were pretty cool (despite R2 being kinda up it's own ass sniffing the farts)
 
All I really need to know: will this increase or decrease the likelihood I get Receiver 2 DLC?
 
There are actually a bunch of tinfoil hat theories that this guys lawsuit is being at least partially bankrolled by Epic behind the scenes. It wouldn't be the first time Epic threw money around just to take shots at Steam.

The dev himself isn't particularly credible, has changed his story several times, and is definitely doing this for the money.

Valve has actually said in the past that they like competition because it keeps them working to be the best. And that devs are free to shop around at other platforms.

They actively work with a lot of other sites (GOG, Humble Bundle, Stardock, ect) to give out Steam keys when they really don't have to.
 
This would make it impossible for me, or any game developer, to determine whether or not Steam is earning their commission.

As the dominant platform, when developers list their games on multiple PC stores, the majority of their sales will come through Steam. I believe this makes most developers afraid that if they don't sell on Steam, they will lose the majority of their revenue. To those developers, avoiding Steam would add unacceptable risk to the already high risk of game development in general.

"Valve don't earn the amount we pay them. But if we don't pay them then our game will fail".

Seems like you answered your own question there.
 
Can Gaben sue them if he gets coofid from going?
Also the no particular risk of illness is dead wrong, Gaben is fat as fuck and something like covid could probably take him out.
 
On the topic of Gabe getting the coof and fucking dying. Has there ever been any public discussion of who would succeed Gabe? Valve has a COO, but I assume since it's a private company it can go to whomever Gabe wills it to.
 
I really don't see how this guy has a leg to stand on in a legal sense.

Steam isn't a monopoly. No one is stopping the devs from going onto the EGS or even developing their own launcher like EA did with origin or the Bethesda launcher or Blizzard.

The fact Steam has a lions share of the market is from offering an objectively amazing product.
And its also worth keeping in mind what the court is looking for in this actual case. The court is not in the practice of determining what someone's business model should be. The court is however looking out for whether the practices in question are of significant detriment to the consumer. So there's two aspects here - Is it in the consumers best interest for the game to have general price parity across retailers? Sorta not, but its debatable - Its just as easy to say its against the consumers interest to be financially punished for using their preferred market platform as it is to say they're charged more for steam existing. Its a really weak argument, but it does lean in the favor of Wolfire marginally, and only marginally - Wolfire will have to answer why they insist on working with steam when they believe the fees and terms are unreasonable, and it'll be difficult for them to argue the court should let them have their cake and eat it too because they want it and little else. If consumers will not go to the epic game store for a game, even when its cheaper than it might be offered for on steam, then that implies consumers see value in steam, and therefore are more than willing to pay the 'steam tax'.

The other aspect is if its unreasonable for steam to have pricing terms in their business agreements. And as far as I'm aware, this is actually a fairly legal thing - There's nothing forbidding a retailer from having clauses generally forbidding their supplier from helping a competitor to undercut them. Price agreements that put unilateral floors on the pricing, or require fixed price points etc are highly illegal, but simply putting in contract that "your MSRP with us must be the same MSRP as with everyone else" doesn't meet the standards of any form of price fixing. Same thing exists in their sales policy - If you do a 50% sale somewhere else, all they ask is you do a 50% sale on steam at some point in the future as well.

So it comes down to whether the court believes its in the consumers best interest to forcibly change the business model of a business entity because a partner business doesn't like the fee structure associated with working with them, when the structure is generally legal, doesn't appear to be putting any explicit price floor on the consumer, and the collected fee percentage provides a number of services that on paper appear worth their value to the consumers who are presumably suffering under the premium on cost, based on the massive difference in sales between steam and competitor cheaper platforms.

Suffice to say, this probably won't win - There's not enough provable harm to the consumer, and the partner business can't argue that they have no option other than to use steam without explaining why its so good and justifying its terms and cut.

Can Gaben sue them if he gets coofid from going?
Also the no particular risk of illness is dead wrong, Gaben is fat as fuck and something like covid could probably take him out.
He's in he actual at risk categories for sure, obese and over 60 years old now. But no, there's no situation in which he could seek any compensation for secondary medical complications when travelling. Getting sick is a fact of life, Covids not a big pandemic of any special note anymore, and as far as the courts concerned, everyone else here and involved is taking the same risks. Gabe won't get special treatment there.
 
I really don't see how this guy has a leg to stand on in a legal sense.

Steam isn't a monopoly. No one is stopping the devs from going onto the EGS or even developing their own launcher like EA did with origin or the Bethesda launcher or Blizzard.

The fact Steam has a lions share of the market is from offering an objectively amazing product.

Yeah.

10 years ago, you could have probably made the argument. But now, even on PC, you've got itch.io if you're an indie, and indie to AAA publisher, you've got Epic and GOG both. If you're AAA, you can go your own way and have your own store, too, like Ubi and EA do. You've got options. Hell, I think Epic is still offering free blowjobs or something if you sell your game on their store and give them a year exclusivity.
 
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