Boogie / Boogie2988 / "Francis" / Steven Jason Williams - Fat, Rapidly Declining Divorced "Nice Guy" Middle-Aged Youtuber, Former Edgy Porn Blogger, lied about having cancer and being molested. Cohost of fake drama show "Lolcow Live (LCL)". Just WILL NOT die.

think you've unintentionally fallen into the Boogie guilt trap a bit,

No, I'm just not confusing a significantly downgraded standard of living with "making out like a bandit." If you sell a house in a suburb and move into a shitty 1BR, you didn't get richer. Your reduced your standard of living because you're too poor to afford where you live now. IDK if Boogie is actually too poor to keep his house yet, because he lies so much about everything all the time.

Moreover, the point is that Boogie's house isn't particularly valuable. He didn't get lucky; we're just in a period of high inflation. Sure, he could sell it...and whether he buys or rents, the same inflation that drove his home price up has been driving up rents and property values everywhere he might think to live. Plus, interest rates are higher. I guess, since he's not going to live much longer, he could cram a bunch more pizza in face and HAMS with a lot more whores before his fat heart explodes if he sold the house and moved into an apartment. For people who aren't going to die soon, keeping the house is the smart option.
 
That is simultaneously so lazy, yet so disgusting, that I have no problem believing Boogie would do it. Suicide by shitting yourself and doing nothing is pure Booger.
Late af but I think boogie took inspiration from Tracy Emin.
She's a artist who contemplated suicide for a week in her bed and then decided not to.
She put her soiled bed in a museum, it's called "the empty bed" and got massive attention back then.
Read about it Here

What I don't get is if he read about it and hoped people would say he's brave and a big artiste just like her or if he read about it and decided to rip the story right off.

I think I might posted about her before but it's worth posting again because the more we talk about it the more I think he drew inspiration.
 
The fact that Boogie didn't pay off his house while he was still raking in the cash on Youtube astounds me. What a retarded nigger. Uber Eats 3/x per day and hookers were the top priority I guess.
Even more astonishing considering that his peak on YouTube was probably around 2012 - 2015, when he was getting MILLIONS of views per video pre YouTube Adpocalypse when creators earned far more from ads.

Prior to 2017 it was much easier for creators to slap ads on whatever they uploaded since demonetisation didn’t exist and YouTuber paid out far more than what it does now. It’s very obvious that he’s downplaying the amount of money he earns.

Both Rich and Mutahar agreed during the RTU livestream that boogie’s claim of only making 1 millions dollars total over his career is off by a factor of at least 10.

I honestly think that he’s nowhere near as broke as what he claims. Despite him showing his bank account in the documentary, I’m not convinced he’s that financially destitute. He was earning good money for years, almost half a decade, and still makes good money considering how low effort his “job” is. All this talk of him wasting money on crypto and hookers is relatively new within the last 4 years or so. So what about all the money prior to that?

He doesn’t “need” money to the point where he makes an effort to get it. He only “wants” more of it because he feels entitled to it for doing nothing.

You’d assume losing your house would be a good enough motivator to get your shit together and actually try to improve your life, but you see no change in his work ethic or behaviour.

Also gotta love how he just had to mentioned on twitter recently that when he went to McDonald’s he had a 20% of coupon so it was surprisingly cheap! Wow Boogie, you’re so responsible with your money opting to save $6 on your lunch. If $6 is so important to you maybe you shouldn’t have wasted hundreds of thousands of dollars on women, plastic crap or crypto gambling?
 
Your reduced your standard of living because you're too poor to afford where you live now. IDK if Boogie is actually too poor to keep his house yet, because he lies so much about everything all the time.
Only if you move into an actual shithole. This fat fuck has no reason to live in some giant house that is filthy anyway because he's too fat to take care of it. If anything having more available money and less stress because of money is an improvement.

I mean not how Boogie would do it because he's such a narcissist it would be a huge narc injury to lose that house, but there's a reason old retired people often downsize (and not into a shithole).
What I don't get is if he read about it and hoped people would say he's brave and a big artiste just like her or if he read about it and decided to rip the story right off.
The thing is it's still disgusting and it becomes exponentially more disgusting when it's a repulsive fat bastard like Boogie. Even if it never happened, that fat son of a bitch made me think about it and I'll never forgive him for it.

Maybe he made it up or stole it after he actually repeatedly did shit himself out of pure laziness.
 
Maybe he made it up or stole it after he actually repeatedly did shit himself out of pure laziness.
It sounds near classic boogie.

Like maybe he didn't legitimately piss and shit himself in bed (or he pissed in bottles LTG style), but I could see him laying around unwashed in bed for weeks on end, then exaggerating it and turning it into a tragic tale of near suicide so he could tell people about it and farm sympathy while shielding himself from everyone responding about how gross and reprhensible that is. Because he was suicidal you see, you wouldn't make light of suicide would you?

Not that horrifically depressed people might not do that, but they usually don't then think "Man, I gotta find some way to tell people about this for pity".
 
What I don't get is if he read about it and hoped people would say he's brave and a big artiste just like her or if he read about it and decided to rip the story right off.
What I get from his story at the time is that he was just unwilling to do jack shit and lay in bed until someone came and solved his basic problems. After everything was said and done he decided to hype everything up to play up how depressed he was so he can get pitty points.

Whats pretty funny from that is how fucking awful soiling yourself and a mattress and inducing death via septic shock is. Boogie made it very clear of the massive medicinal cocktail he takes on a daily basis so you know this fucker is already crying once he gets out of his bed, so on one had I could see him laying in bed and doing jack shit. However when it comes to a rampant infection and his blood running spetic, im sure he is far from comfortable from handling without being heavily medicated and treated ASAP.

Boogie is a man who enjoys the easiest way possible with the least resistance and discomfort possible. I would never in my life expect him to just sit there and let a medical issue take him over, the bitch chugs pills on the daily for having to stand up. Hes a bitch when it comes to discomfort, and thats why he has dog food at his recliner, so he cant have to get up to feed them.

When it comes to Chad, I think its the perfect storm of Chad just being that type of easy going shut in and Boogie loving someone who will never say anything and can be thrown casually as a defense to his terrible habits. Chad has most likely seen and heard tons of shit that would wreck Boogie, but because he does not give a fuck hes close enough to Boogies favorite types of people to talk about (besides young women), people who will not refute his claims and stories. A lot of his past stories about how people were terrible about him, or how he can make himself look better (in their death) he fucking claims all the time when he feels the need. .

Boogie loves to sling shit and make up stories once the opposing party is dead because he KNOWS they cant talk back and speak the truth. If they are still alive hes gonna find a way to silence them, a threat via suicide, legal action, or whatever bullshit. He might be bitchy and scream over someone who calls him out, but he fucking dreads someone who really has the receipts and thats why everyone in that realm is so quiet.

What I do love to see however is that with all of the attention from the documentary and every fucking person who can get ad sheckles in their pocket is covering this. However Boogie is making fucking pre documentary view counts now and he even has exclusive content. It just goes to show no one on this fucking planet like Boogie.
 
No, I'm just not confusing a significantly downgraded standard of living with "making out like a bandit."

Everyone here can read my post and see that isn't at all what I said, I don't know how you managed to connect those two ideas but maybe take a minute to reread literally the first half of my sentence that you're quoting.

His house not being particularly valuable is entirely a question of perspective, I guess goodie for you that a not-insignificant amount of equity in a 500k house doesn't mean much in your life? Keeping the house could be a smart option for someone who wasn't so unhealthy and who had a stable if not rising income that lead to paying the home off, but this is the Boogie2988 thread so none of those is the case here...

@Frosty Alpine

Both Rich and Mutahar agreed during the RTU livestream that boogie’s claim of only making 1 millions dollars total over his career is off by a factor of at least 10.

I was just listening to his 2019 birthday stream again tonight because Seethin' Steven uploaded it again recently. In it he very clearly claims that he was a millionaire for a 'short period' right before he got divorced, but then he lost half of everything. This very obviously runs counter to his claims on RTU to have only made a million his whole career, it's totally ridiculous. The divorce was 2017, so go figure that math out.

I plan to write a more detailed post with timestamps going through that stream again soon because he says some pretty interesting stuff given the context we have in 2023.

EDIT: he also uses the term 'bank accountS' in the stream which I found interesting, most people refer to all of their chequing/savings/etc. with each bank as an 'account', but we only saw a single set in the documentary.
 
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The fact that Boogie didn't pay off his house while he was still raking in the cash on Youtube astounds me. What a retarded nigger. Uber Eats 3/x per day and hookers were the top priority I guess.
Well, ya see magnetic field, dead people don't, buy, houses.... they neeeeeeever did! they neeeeeeever did! they neeeeeeever did! they neeeeeeever did! they neeeeeeever did!
 
I had a post a while back with all boogie mortgage info. See that for info on his initial purchase price, and his divorce remortgage.

It doesn't matter if his house is hugely inflated or not( it for sure is but that's the world we live in). This retard could have payed his house in half a year at his peak. He didn't.

Let's say it's worth the same or less than he purchased for. If he's truly poor and paid it off. Easy out. 200k to 230k in his pocket after relator/lawyer fees. (More if he doesn't use a relator)

Let's say it's paid off and it sells for 500k. Amazing! Doubled his investment.

Back to reality, he could sell for 500k or 300k(probably a more realistic number.) He would still make 80k to 100k. If he's truly poor, this is the option.

80k at his health, life style and age world be at minimum, a good couple of years for a two bedroom apartment. Possibly the rest of his sad, depressing life.

What I don't understand is how little him and Dez1 paid before the divorce. Blame boogie all we want but both of them seem to have fucked up the mortgage. Boogie has made it worse after.
 
Late af but I think boogie took inspiration from Tracy Emin.
She's a artist who contemplated suicide for a week in her bed and then decided not to.
She put her soiled bed in a museum, it's called "the empty bed" and got massive attention back then.
Read about it Here

What I don't get is if he read about it and hoped people would say he's brave and a big artiste just like her or if he read about it and decided to rip the story right off.

I think I might posted about her before but it's worth posting again because the more we talk about it the more I think he drew inspiration.
I'm starting to get on board with these theories. Another story I want to find a parallel with is his "feeder girlfriend story". Let's be real, this didn't happen. This is one of Boogie's many fantasies which he dreamed up in his head and / or replaced himself in the starring role like he did with his sister's molestation story and Adam the Woo's girl scout cookie story. I would like to know who he stole the feeder story from.

The gas station story is another one which sounds like it's straight out of a movie or TV show. It's like some kind of jock vs nerd plotline. I think it was during the h3 Podcast which I linked above, but Boogie also tells a story about how some guy tried breaking into his house to try and use a phone. Boogie is such a nice guy that he let the guy use his phone and then drove him home.

Imo, Boogie's biggest asset is his his ability to speak well and tell stories. If the year is 2016, you're a huge h3h3 fan and you hear this random guest telling all these stories, you'd believe them. This is another reason he built up such a strong reputation as as lovable guy. Boogie is an actor, sometimes a very convincing one if you allow him the right circumstances.

Let's take the True Geordie Podcast as an example of the right circumstances.

1) The host loves Boogie
2) The host is ignorant to Boogie's past indiscretions
3) The host allows Boogie to spin his bullshit stories uncontested
4) Audience response is overwhelmingly positive
5) If you buy what he's selling, Boogie comes across as likeable

Contrast that with any trainwreck appearance ranging for the Killstream vs Frank Hassle, the Turkey Tom "interview", the Mundane Matt meltdown, the Actual Jake meltdown or any of the Lolcow Podcasts so far. These are the wrong circumstances.

1) Boogie's demeanour is more defensive
2) Boogie doesn't feel in control
3) The audience is aware of Boogie's true nature
4) Boogie's tactics get called out
5) Boogie's stories are questioned

Boogie's personality shapes to whatever the circumstance requires at any given time. The funniest example would be the Killstream vs Frank Hassle. He was changing masks by the minutes.

The downside to Boogie's "loveable" podcast appearances is that he has no control over what is included / not included. Take the gay marriage comments during his 2nd h3 podcast appearance for example. He would've nuked that from his channel if that was on his platform. Another downside is that it's Boogie telling stories. With each Boogie story comes another 50 re-tellings of the same story in future.
 
It's funny because I used to think maybe some of his stories are true. Now, I really don't believe literally any of his outlandish stories. For example on H3 he said that a drunk guy broke into his house "trying to use his phone" or some shit, but on the Official Podcast he said it was a deranged fan. I posted it a little while ago but his "darkweb hitman" story is ridiculous as well, you can hear that on H3 and be like "what the fuck", but the more he talks about these things, the more he slips up or forgets things.

Reminds me of how he was bragging about being "tunnel brothers" with Logan Paul, and then one day on stream said "I forget if it was Jake or Logan... I think I've said Logan every time I've told this story, so I'll say Logan" only to realize what he'd just said, and of course makes victim excuses by saying "my brain is foggy, in this old age (was 48 at the time)".

He really thrives on people thinking he is just some nice loving guy, because you can see and hear the joy in him when he was having Ethan and Hila oohing and ahhing. On Killstream though, the dude was jumping between super nice friendly fat guy to some weird tough redneck character within seconds/minutes. I remember he said within like one or two sentences of each other that he loves Frank and that he wishes he would catch fire.

"listen I love you, I love you Frank.." "I don't give a fuck about you!" "yeah, I would watch you catch fire, man!" something like that. Like he was trying to manipulate and deceive, received narcissistic injury, and got pissed. I can't explain that behavior in any way with any terms. It's just deranged.

As funny as that whole shit show was, it was creepy as fuck and surreal to see someone acting like that, like a complete chameleon, reminded me of that one demonic preacher guy.

I wonder what the truth behind his elaborate stories are. One of my favorites is that his mom was trying to gauge his eye out so he jumped out of a moving car at 30 MPH and didn't get seriously injured and nobody cared. That's obviously so ridiculous I don't need to explain it but he was probably just throwing a fit about not going on the field trip, his mom slapped him, and he got out of the car while she was pulling up.

We've seen what he has done with things we have actual evidence of. He spun that Frank Hassle story into such a wild concoction it's almost disgusting how fake he is. Someone asked how he would tell that story if there was no evidence. He threatened Frank, told him to show up, engaged with him and with people online, said he was going to murder him and was happy about doing it, and then afterwards he says "he threatened to RAPE me he was gonna hurt my dog he's been harassing and threatening me for months, I told him NOT to come, I didn't wanna hurt anyone :(" and people ate that shit up, there are still people that actually believe Frank threatened him and that haven't heard Boogie's threats.

It is kind of fucked up to say because I feel bad for his siblings, but I wonder if his sister was ever really raped, or if he just made that up himself. He has a really sick obsession with pedophilia, rape and molestation, I wouldn't be surprised if he just daydreamed all that shit up.
 
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Crazy how there's an entire cottage industry of shitty videos popping up trying to leach off the main documentaries views lol


Boogie should figure out a way to capitalize on this himself, but I doubt he will.
It brings me great joy to see a lot of these videos are getting pretty decent views, some better than Boogie’s recent “gamer” vlogs, and lolcow live isn’t pulling the kind of numbers I thought it would. The EFAP viewing of Boogie’s doc was hilarious, and their fans are saying it’s already one of their best podcast episodes.


His Twitter engagement is in the toilet too. Love to see it.
 
Holy shit, he uploaded a Sammy Shield video to counter all the backlash:

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How could you guys hate this man? He loves dogs!

Here's some tweets. Boogie essentially spends the Thanksgiving break making an ass out of himself.

The haters spend their Thanksgiving rent free in Boogie's head:

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Damn boys. I'm jealous that Boogie got to spend Thanksgiving with his boring girlfriend and her trailer trash family.

Seething:

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I like how Boogie never denies that she looks like she's 15. Quite telling. Also, notice how he never responds to the "ID in the wallet" comment. He's still thinking of an excuse for that one.

Boogie posts his Thanksgiving helping. Several people in the comments express concern over the portion size due to the gastric bypass surgery:

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UUUURRRRGHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH

Can this fat faggot just admit that he's a fat fucking faggot who has no self control and has been stuffing his face like he never had the surgery for the past 6 years?

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It's amazing how this blob always has more food than he can eat on his plate.

He's already referring to Dezi's folks as the "in-laws". Oh, just you wait dear Farmer. There's a really good one coming:

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Boogie addresses his clitoris joke from years ago:

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It's not Boogie's fault he said it though, it's Sam Kinson's!

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He always has to intellectualize his retarded jokes. How hard is it to just admit you said a bad / stupid joke?

What a shame he deleted this tweet, it must've been a really bad one. Not to worry, Boogie makes another retarded tweet in this thread regardless:

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You guys are so weird if you think Boogie is bragging about his girlfriend's age. He only ever addressed this one time!

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Okay turns out he uploaded this picture with a reference to it not being underage drinking:

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CJ knows what's up:

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Yes, people are assholes for pointing out that drinking a dark liquid from a wine glass may be underage drinking. Yes, it's the people who are assholes for potentially being mistaken in this scenario. Maybe just don't upload the image and avoid this altogether, spastic.

Lmao, he's getting triggered:

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Apparently this was the original tweet he deleted:

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This chick retweeted the photo and also points out how weird it is that Boogie always flexes about Dezi's age:

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Here's a response to her tweet :story:

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Boogie responds to her:

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Boogie feigns ignorance over why people get annoyed about his Dezi-posting:

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Here's the cringe we've all be waiting for. Boogie gives us an ETA for when he'll propose / get married to Dezi:

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Yeah and I'm sure you called your dating coach friend to ask for their advice. Fuck off Boogie, this conversation probably never happened. A few people in the comments mentioned how strange it was that Boogie used the term "consent" instead of "blessing".

LOL. I have no doubts that Boogie brings this up daily to guilt Dezi into staying with him:

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Once again, Boogie sure loves speaking on Dezi's behalf. SHE loved the photo, so SHE wanted Boogie to share it. It's NOT HIS FAULT that he shared the photo. This fucken guy:

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"It just makes me happy to do social media" :story::story::story: Oh my lord, this is an all-timer from Boogs. Bro you just spent all day arguing with people over photos you uploaded of Dezi. This is like listening to DSP rationalize that he makes "pahsitive khantent".

Boogie continues trying to re-write his "LA 10's and Arkansas 8's" comments from the doc:

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Nigga, you mentioned "Arkansas 8's" during your 2018 h3 Podcast appearance. Your porn blogs degraded random celebrities. Here are your thoughts about women in Arkansas:

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But bro he regrets those comments about sex workers because they were totally aimed at sex workers only. This definitely isn't a mindset that Boogie has at all!
 
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Now, I really don't believe literally any of his outlandish stories.
Pretty much all his stories start off with some vague incident that did actually occur, but then Boogie has to turn it up to 11 and throw in a bunch of extra bullshit and lies to make the story more entertaining and make him look like the good guy.

He can't just say "I grew up in the deep South of the US and was exposed to bigotry and hatred against black people, but I've grown up and changed". He has to make it that he was a local champion campaigning for LGBT rights and freedoms even as a child! He marched on the streets of Akansas for rights and even dated multiple black people even though he was ostracised from his community.

One of the more outrageous lies that I hardly ever see brought up nowadays is the Race Rudder incident of 2019.

For Memorial Day 2019 Boogie made a post on Twitter explaining how he knew someone from high school called Race Rudder, who served in the military and tragically died at aged 18 during combat in desert storm as a result of an accident on base. As expected, boogie (a person who contributes nothing to society) spins this into making veterans day about himself. Going onto say that he kept his spirit and legacy alive by continuing their family's tradition of doing a haunted house for Halloween and keeps in contact with his parents.

Of course, this kind of claim is very easy to validate and @Portajohn proves it's all a lie.

Page 520 where it all went down.

I looked up Race Rudder and found this obituary for Stephen Race Rudder, who went by his middle name. It confirms that he went to high school in the area where Boogie grew up (Wise County, VA) around the same time boogie was in high school, he served in the Navy, and he was deployed to the first Gulf War. But the guy didn't die in a base accident at 18. He left the Navy, had a family and multiple jobs in the private sector, and lived to 40.

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Link to his old twitter posts about it. (Most of the meltdown and reactions to being called out have been deleted.)

Also, this person was so pissed off that they made an entire account on twitter just to reply to Boogie and call him out for his lies and manipulation.

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I'd assume most of his stories are like this. Take some boring event that has some basis in reality, extrapolate it to make the situation about yourself, then throw in a bunch of extra lies and dramatic moments to hype it up for your braindead followers to eat up and give you ass pats and sympathy for.

I wish the people making those boogie2988 lie compilation and downfall videos on Youtube would include it because it's such a close book example but I barely ever see it brought up.
 
Just getting caught up from the last few days and holly shit, @YaBoi was right, he spent Thanksgiving thinking about the 'Farms huh 🤣

How strange of a flex it is to brag about hanging out with your in-laws when you realize it's a completely normal thing? It's like a post I made a couple years ago where Boogie went out to a bar with his friends and couldn't stop fucking filming and posting about it as if the man has never left his house before.


The sheer lack of life experience this 50yo has still continues to surprise me.
 
Everyone here can read my post and see that isn't at all what I said, I don't know how you managed to connect those two ideas but maybe take a minute to reread literally the first half of my sentence that you're quoting.

You said, literally, that if he sold his house, he'd "make out like a bandit." Your exact words. I then pointed out that, since home prices & rents are just undergoing massive inflation rather than his property being uniquely valuable, as he would still need a place to live, he would need to significantly downgrade his standard of living in order to actually bank any cash. You agreed in so many words, saying that he should move from a 5-BR house to a 1-BR apartment, which is a significant downgrade in his standard of living.


His house not being particularly valuable is entirely a question of perspective, I guess goodie for you that a not-insignificant amount of equity in a 500k house doesn't mean much in your life?

Perspective has nothing to do with whether or not a given home is a particularly hot item on the market. There's nothing unique about his house compared to other houses with a similar floor plan in a similar area, and its current value isn't uniquely high. In fact, given the way boogie treats it, and he's doubtlessly far too lazy to make the minor improvements needed to boost the sale price, he'll probably get significantly less than average if he sells it.

This really isn't about boogie (I don't give a flying fuck what quality of life he has); it's about the fact that inflation isn't making homeowners rich, and selling your house and renting during an inflationary period is generally horrible financial advice. But since it isn't about boogie, it's off topic, so I'll drop it in this thread.
 
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