Boogie / Boogie2988 / "Francis" / Steven Jason Williams - Fat, Rapidly Declining Divorced "Nice Guy" Middle-Aged Youtuber, Former Edgy Porn Blogger, lied about having cancer and being molested. Cohost of fake drama show "Lolcow Live (LCL)". Just WILL NOT die.

[TroonFiringSquad]

Also lol @ "not into 18-20 year olds, that doesn't do much for me''.

Boogie really trying to make out like there's some huge difference between a 19 year old and a 22 year old. What a fucking wimp. If you want to fuck women who are 18 and older, do it, stop being a pussy and pretending it's somehow fine if they're 20+ but not if they're under 20. You could make a case about maturity differences between the average 18 year old vs. the average 22 year old but Boogie is just talking about sex.

There's nothing particular weird about admitting you'd bang an 18 year old, a lot of the people who would act disgusted about it have probably jacked off to porn with 18-19 year olds plenty of times.

 

[Not 6 Foot]

There's nothing particular weird about admitting you'd bang an 18 year old, a lot of the people who would act disgusted about it have probably jacked off to porn with 18-19 year olds plenty of times.

Yeah but you get all the pearl clutchers (many on this board) who insist it's essentially veiled pedophilia or pedophilia-adjacent so it makes sense, from a PR standpoint, to imply there's some tangible difference.

But in Boogie's case it likely is veiled pedophilia, given his track record.

 

[ddlloo]

I love that, even omitting a bunch of details, Boogie's work history fit into 2 minutes of uninterrupted, progressing disaster.

Had a chuckle at this, but correct me if I'm wrong isn't he actually NOT a felon? I thought he had a sentence which disappeared as long he was out of trouble for 12 months or so.

 

[Frosty Alpine]

If overnight some allegation came out about Boogie that stained Keem as well he'd drop him like a hot coal.

I don’t believe this. Look at how long Keemstar has a relationship with OnlyUseMeBlade. A severe alcoholic who’s groped and allegedly raped women.

Keemstar is an ideas man and has the mentality of “fuck it, let’s do it right now”. When he wants to do something he jumps to it immediately and starts working to overcome his problems.

He can easily see how Boogie and wings could overcome their money issues by putting in effort and actually trying, For him it’s blindly obvious, so he goes to help but then gets angry when wings and boogie don’t have the same mindset which made him successful and the cycle repeats.

If Keem was in either of their position he would be out of it within weeks.

For him he doesn’t understand how boogie and wings haven’t achieved the same, because to him the solution is painfully obvious and that’s what makes him angry. There was an interview where keem was talking about DSP and Keem said something like “this guys whole life is like he’s playing a video game, and he keeps fucking up on level one and he just sits there doing the same thing over and over for 15 without going anywhere.”

Wings and Keem go way back to the point that wings was originally more successful than he is, keem is already rich and I doubt hes really making anything from this podcast. I think he has some type of survivor guilt because he’s a multimillionaire and wings is still in a trailer begging for donations.

IMO he just wanted to help them out because he’s business smart and can see a solution to capitalise on their problems. You can get a good insight into his motivation for the podcast on this clip here.

 

[Harbinger of Kali Yuga]

Yeah but you get all the pearl clutchers (many on this board) who insist it's essentially veiled pedophilia or pedophilia-adjacent so it makes sense, from a PR standpoint, to imply there's some tangible difference.

But in Boogie's case it likely is veiled pedophilia, given his track record.

The "18 is pedophilia" is a take that is being pushed probably the most on reddit by aging women that don't like it when men go after younger women.

 

[Not 6 Foot]

The "18 is pedophilia" is a take that is being pushed probably the most on reddit by aging women that don't like it when men go after younger women.

Oh, definitely. But it's also showing up elsewhere, now. There seems to be a lot of people from the early to mid 2000s getting older and unironically adopting this viewpoint.

To be completely fair: I would definitely find it weird if a buddy of mine started parading around his 18 year old girlfriend, but legal and socially acceptable are entirely different things.

 

[Halloween23]

The "18 is pedophilia" is a take that is being pushed probably the most on reddit by aging women that don't like it when men go after younger women.

I'm not in that crowd at all. Hell, I'm in the crowd that says there's definitely stacked 16 year olds out there who are hot and think people are lying if they're say otherwise. But even I think Boogie comes off as a massive creep. It's not just the age; it the constantly having to reinforce that he ONLY LIKES GIRLS OF LEGAL AGE, dating a girl who physically looks like she's in middle school, and openly talking about DDLG/age regression fetish shit.

He makes it quickly go from "well yeah, he's human" to "search this nigga's hard drive"

 

[ddlloo]

"18 is pedophilia" is a godawful argument when their partner is in their 20's, especially their early 20's. Don't get me started on some of these cunts that extend this argument to "emotional" maturity and branding people creeps off of that.

Early 30's, it's an eyebrow raiser and definitely weird, and the closer you get to double their age the more screwed up the dynamic of the relation has to be.

Boogie in his late 40's getting romantic with a 19 year year old? Bruh. This being something like the 3rd girl early 20's or younger in the last 5 years? BRUH. Them also being relationships where they HAVE to be dependent on them because they don't work, or are sugaring, or are fucked in the head (or multiple of these)? B R U H.

Like was basically said above, sex and relationships are two different things. 90%+ of guys would love to fuck a young, beautiful, energetic and tight teen if the situation was suitable. This fucking cumbrained degenerate saying chicks under 20 don't do anything for him is full of fucking shit. He target girls around that age, and not just for sex but actual relationships!

He is a creep and should be on a watchlist.

 

[A Cardboard Box]

After that they had a falling out because of pay, in which colossaliscrazy joined tommy because of unfairness.

This part isn't correct. Collosal bucked on the profit sharing, but TommyC was actually fine with the arrangement, even though he received the smallest cut, because he himself acknowledged he brought the least clout to the table.

 

[White_N]

Had a chuckle at this, but correct me if I'm wrong isn't he actually NOT a felon? I thought he had a sentence which disappeared as long he was out of trouble for 12 months or so.

I'm not sure, but there are a lot of experts on Boogieism here.
But he calls himself a felon, and the main thing is believing in yourself. You can be anything if you believe in it.

 

[TroonFiringSquad]

Early 30's, it's an eyebrow raiser and definitely weird, and the closer you get to double their age the more screwed up the dynamic of the relation has to be.

Yeah I think a relationship with an 18 year old and someone in their late 20s onwards gets to be eyebrow raising. I believe most people would start to talk shit a little if it's someone 25+ with an 18 year old.

If it's just sex though that's different and is a big who cares. The porn industry is built on 18 year olds getting railed!

Hell, I'm in the crowd that says there's definitely stacked 16 year olds out there who are hot and think people are lying if they're say otherwise.

I'm always trying not to look but I see a pair of bare legs and I instinctively look and damn it's some girl who is probably like 16 tops.

Curse the male gaze! It never goes beyond a look though and I don't start jacking off about it either.

 

[The Ugly One]

The "18 is pedophilia" is a take that is being pushed probably the most on reddit by aging women that don't like it when men go after younger women.

Most human beings are incapable of nuance or reasoning through situations with more than one variable. It's why white supremacists see race & IQ statistics and think it means some fat 93-IQ life dropout in a plastic stahlhelm must smarter than Herman Cain was, with his BS Mathematics & MS Comp Sci from top schools back before race-based grade inflation.

So they're incapable of expressing how a 47-year-old living with an 18-year-old is fucked up except by saying he's a "pedophile."

 

[John Andrews Stan]

Dezi looks like she’s 12, 15 tops.

Waiting for a smart YouTuber to do a video focusing solely on Boogie openly laughing about his prepubescent-looking gf’s constant drug use and him buying alcohol for her on camera.

 

[DontEatThat_2.0]

There's nothing particular weird about admitting you'd bang an 18 year old, a lot of the people who would act disgusted about it have probably jacked off to porn with 18-19 year olds plenty of times.

To be completely fair: I would definitely find it weird if a buddy of mine started parading around his 18 year old girlfriend, but legal and socially acceptable are entirely different things.

I think thats the general idea. Most people wouldnt really care if there was an age gap and if both sides were completely fine with it then all is good.

But in Boogie's case it likely is veiled pedophilia, given his track record.

Boogie is getting tons of shit for this is because hes parading her around and giving her so much exposure. Hes fixated on how old she is to the point hes projecting when people rightfully call out her being young enough to be her daughter. Thats how you know you triggered Boogie and hit a nerve, he wont shut the fuck up about something and will interject or state randomly at times about the topic. It wouldnt look so bad if he wasnt so fixated on constantly saying shes 20 not 18. Its not a big difference but him focusing on it just makes it really weird.

Boogie has made tons of statements in the past about how he finds younger women attractive and would date as low as he could. Given the chance some people would also go for a younger women, but with the way Boogie also seems to bring up trauma bonding, the constant Jaba/Princess Leia fantasy and use of sugaring makes it seem more suspect. Its one thing to just be attracted to a young legal adult, its another thing to not just be attracted but prefer that because its a young mind to manipulate and mould to his own wants and desires. They tend not to have much experience to know any better, and Boogie is predatory in that manner as thats exactly what he seeks for. He tries to find women who are vulnerable or naive and makes his attempt to "help" them in their lives so they become reliant on him and then he can start to manipulate them into becoming more or less an indentured servant. Thats why he became so reliant to seeking and sugaring, he had an agle that he could try to pull on these women and knew he couldnt get people to be around him naturally in a natural setting anyways.

He target girls around that age, and not just for sex but actual relationships!

He doesnt want an actual romantic relationship. He wants people to believe he does so he can feel good about himself. He essentially wants a young woman that can take care of all his needs and wants. She has to do all his household chores for him, she has to be his therapist, she has to make sure he takes all his meds and needs to be ready for HAMS at any given notice. She also needs to be perfectly fine with all of this being aired online, lose all contact with the outside world and her life being paraded as part of an act so a pathetically insecure man like Boogie can show people online that he is living the best life while deteriorating in real time.

I wouldnt go as far as to peg Boogie as a pedo, and in the past I kind of kept the same assumption. I will always agree that he is a creep and a predator that targets specifically young broken women so he can manipulate them easier.

 

[John Andrews Stan]

He tries to find women who are vulnerable or naive and makes his attempt to "help" them in their lives so they become reliant on him and then he can start to manipulate them into becoming more or less an indentured servant.

That’s probably the story with Chad, too. Wouldn’t be surprised if he’s one of the guys who “bisexual” Boogie claims he’s “made out with.”

 

[bravosouth]

Dezi looks like she’s 12, 15 tops.

This is such a good point that doesn't really get it's proper dues by most of the creators that cover Boogie, I think as soon as you bring up pedophilia in a video it's pretty much instantly demonetized though. Not that money is everything, but I get it.

It isn't just that she's 20 years old but the fact that she strongly resembles someone significantly younger than 20, and not just her body but her features as well. It's hard to say because I'm so biased, but I think if I had never seen Dezi before and was asked to guess her age I probably would have gone with 16ish. I find it incredibly hard to believe that an unbiased stranger would ever recognize as her as an adult immediately, and I really wanted to try and prove this somehow.

I did a little thinking and while there are plenty of poll sites out there, you still need a voting base. I thought about using something like r/whatageami, but my concern there was the results getting skewed due to horny redditors assuming she's advertising an OF, also I figured adults voting on a younger female's ages probably has it's own inherent biases that I wanted to try and eliminate as much as possible. Then I saw some kid had posted a 'how old do i look?' post in r/teenagers and this seemed like a good solution to me: a more wholesome subreddit populated by people relatively close to her age who wouldn't mostly be trying to fuck her, besides who could be better at determining exactly how old someone that young is than those actually in her generation? I think a teenager is probably a better judge of other teenagers age than most adults, but that's just me.

I thought I'd make it as fair as possible and use the most recent pic of Dezi Boogie has

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, I also figured the fact that she is cheersing someone with an unknown beverage in some granny sweater inserts a little doubt about her potential age, my point is I tried to be as fair as I could. I spun up a new reddit account/put on my underage girl persona yesterday, and while the post didn't exactly take off like a rocket, I did get some

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BTW

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is who the Android18 reference is about, some dragonball character but I do see the resemblance... Long story short it seems like most teens overwhelmingly also recognize Dezi2.0 as a fellow teen, not exactly shocking I'm sure but it's always nice to see some more objective third-party confirmation.

Had a chuckle at this, but correct me if I'm wrong isn't he actually NOT a felon? I thought he had a sentence which disappeared as long he was out of trouble for 12 months or so.

Yes, as long as he doesn't breach his probation after 2 years 'Order will be entered dismissing the case, discharging the Defendant without an adjudication of guilt and sealing the record'. Original court docs posted by @cock gobbler , I've attached his specific probation conditions as well just for the lulz. Check these out:

2. You must not drink or possess intoxicating or alcoholic beverages, or be present in any establishment where its main source of income is derived from the sale of such beverages.
3. You must not use, sell, distribute, or possess any controlled substance, or associate with any person who is participating in or is known to participate in the illegal use, sale, distribution, or possession of controlled substances, or be present in places where such persons congregate. You may use or possess controlled substances pursuant to a legitimate prescription from a physician. You must be able to present proof of your prescription and provide physician' s name as requested. You must submit to random testing for the use of illegal substances or intoxicants.

Pretty sure a bunch of what him and Dezi get up to is a breach of his conditions, also the stand-up/winery bit in the Clum doc being another... Not to mention how would he explain the THC in his piss test from the edibles you just know he's mowing down?

 

[BulletSpongeRTR]

"Not to mention how would he explain the THC in his piss test from the edibles you just know he's mowing down?"
I was on 2 years probation a long time ago and was only ever drug tested once. My PO was cool though and when I told him that yes I had smoked since my last report he gave me 30 days to get clean before the test.

 

[AnOminous]

Boogie is getting tons of shit for this is because hes parading her around and giving her so much exposure.

He obviously isn't treating her like a person, but as some object to be displayed. And it's also utterly pathetic. Sure, an actual rich guy could have a trophy wife and if the arrangement was okay with everyone, well, it would still be sordid but nobody else's business really. Boogie has a trophy prostitute. And that's just pathetic.

 

[John Andrews Stan]

He obviously isn't treating her like a person, but as some object to be displayed.

Everybody instantly knows Boogie groomed this girl (well, as soon as they realize she’s not his daughter in sixth grade). Far from being ashamed of this, Boogie is proud. He gets off on getting away with violating innocent children. That’s why he never bothered trying to hide his sick, shirtless TikTok duets targeted at specific children.

 

[hitler was just lonely]

Boogie has often justified his sexual obsession with teen girls by saying he's mentally 14 from being raped and beaten as a child, making it okay for him to date immature young girls, so what is his excuse for dating a girl that looks 15?

He dresses himself in lootcrate t-shirts, giant baggy sweat pants and Crocs, has unkempt hair and doesn't shave so he himself looks like an overgrown 15 year old, so it makes it okay? If you are allowed to date very young immature people because you yourself present that way mentally, is it okay for her to date a 15 year old because she appears so young physically?

Seriously though, you're right. If I were a perverted fat 50 year old man dating a girl that young and that immature that does not even look 18 to anyone, I'd be so ashamed and hide that shit. You couldn't catch me dead with that. The fact that there is zero shame is just disgusting, he has no morals, if the age to "take a bullet for Uncle Sam" went to 16 overnight, he'd be prowling on highschoolers the next day, we all know this.

I mean one of the ways he justified dating an 18 year old is by saying they're allowed to throw their lives away for an uncaring government, as that's an "adult responsibility". Well don't you think that owning and operating a 2 ton death machine whenever/wherever you want is an adult responsibility? Because 16 year olds are trusted with the privilege to drive and are deemed mature enough for that, does that mean it's okay for you to have sex with them and society deems them responsible enough to prostitute themselves for a 50 year old man, Boogie? If a 16 year old girl drives, has a job, and maintains adult responsibilities, does that make it okay for you to fuck her?

Most 16 year old girls drive, most 18 year old girls are not in the military, so since so many 16 year old girls are already maintaining an adult responsibility society allowed them to, and they will not take the second responsibility, doesn't that mean you think it's okay to fuck them, Steven?

She's not even allowed to drink or smoke cigarettes. Using Boogie's logic, she is not old enough to be trusted with adult responsibilities, and therefore it's wrong to have sex with her. Boogie is a pervert by no one's standards but his own.

Really, there isn't much difference in responsibility between a 16 year old and 18 year old. Most 18 year old girls aren't joining the military, so his argument is just retarded. If it's okay for you to fuck 18 year olds because of the law and society, would it be okay to fuck 16 year olds if the law and society said so? Oh wait, you already answered that question for us. The age of consent is what is stopping you. Not that these girls lack maturity and life experience and it's wrong. But because you would get in trouble if you did it.

He's such a nasty fuck, at first I just thought he was kind of creepy and a gross fat guy, but this motherfucker is one of the most perverted, misogynistic, predatory narcissists I've ever seen. As if being shirtless screaming about hookers on a kid's app and responding to underage girls wasn't enough.

He really does toe the line and do as much as he possibly can to be a sexual deviant without actually committing a crime.