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I have written a VM in HolyC so that I can safely quarantine my Windows 11 instance away from the demonic influences of the GITD niggers in a locally running instance of TempleOS, which I ported to Arm. I then run Linux under WSL so that I can use GIMP (it's just better under Linux) to make Tyrone memes.
 
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Man, I'm looking over the ASUS TUF F15 (2023)'s specs and it's genuinely a major upgrade compared to my old ASUS TUF F15 (2021). And yes, I bought the new one.
  • Operating System: Windows 11 Home
  • Processor: 11th Gen Intel Core i5-11400H Processor 2.7 GHz (12M Cache, up to 4.5 GHz, 6 Cores)
  • Graphics: NVIDIA GeForce RTX™ 3050 Laptop GPU, Up to 1600MHz at 60W (75W with Dynamic Boost), 4GB GDDR6
  • Display: 15.6-inch, FHD (1920 x 1080) 16:9, Value IPS-level, Anti-glare display, sRGB:62.5%, Adobe:47.34%, Refresh Rate:144Hz, Adaptive-Sync, Optimus;
  • Memory: 8GB DDR4-3200 SO-DIMM
Looking back on it the only issues I ever really had with it was the display and I can see why, with only 62.5 sRGB it was worse than my old Macbook Pro.
  • Operating System: Windows 11 Home
  • Processor: 12th Gen Intel Core i7-12700H Processor 2.3 GHz (24M Cache, up to 4.7 GHz, 14 cores: 6 P-cores and 8 E-cores)
  • Graphics: NVIDIA GeForce RTX 4070 Laptop GPU, 2225MHz at 140W (2175MHz Boost Clock+50MHz OC, 115W+25W Dynamic Boost), 8GB GDDR6
  • Display: 15.6-inch, FHD (1920 x 1080) 16:9, Value IPS-level, Anti-glare display, sRGB:100, Adobe:75.35, Refresh Rate:144Hz, G-Sync, MUX Switch + NVIDIA Advanced Optimus
  • 16GB DDR4-3200 SO-DIMM x 2
  • 1TB PCIe® 4.0 NVMe™ M.2 SSD
It's definitely an upgrade where it needs to be, that 4070 Laptop GPU is decent and I'm happy the display will be better.
Oh, and I decided to bite on the ASUS and the insurance due to the chats I've had here, I also wanted to cover my bases and I chatted with a few other people that favored the ASUS over the Acer Predator.

Now the main issue is upgrading the RAM. I’m doing research on brands and, since the issues that plagued my old laptop only happened after I installed a better RAM card and there may be a chance it was my fault, get it installed elsewhere.
Freedom Fighter said:
Friend bought a 4080 a few days ago.

He plays Fortnite more than anything else.
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I had a 3050 Laptop GPU in my old ASUS TUF and I mostly played Minecraft (the recent updates made it impossible to run on my mid-2013 zombie MBP), Sonic Adventure 1/2, Voodoo Vince Remastered, Pizza Tower, Pokemon Trading Card Game Live, and Spore.

And unless a certain game series is added to Steam, I'm 99% sure that's what my new 4070-Laptop-GPU-powered ASUS TUF will mostly be running. The only difference is that I'll finally have access to Spore's non-collaboration DLC thanks to Steam's Autumn Sale. I did add the Sonic Generations Collection bundle, the Sonic and All-Stars Racing bundle, and Sonic Frontiers to my wishlist on Steam since I missed out on getting 'em.
 
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Nottafed said:
I kindof like this in the specs you are looking for:

MSI Katana 15 Laptop: Intel Core i9-13900H, GeForce RTX 4070, 15.6" FHD 144Hz, 32GB DDR5, 1TB NVMe SSD, USB 3.2 Gen1 Type C w/DP, Cooler Boost 5, Win 11 Home: Black B13VGK-1007US​

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I had a good look at the price of that one, there’s a similar model on Best Buy (has an Intel Core i7 13620H processor over an i9-13900H and NVIDIA GeForce RTX 4060 w/ 8GB over an NVIDIA GeForce RTX 4070 with the same amount of RAM) but it was still over the initial ~$1k budget I set myself at. The ASUS I bought was $999 and has recently dropped by about 20 bucks.
 
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Archeops said:
I had a good look at the price of that one, there’s a similar model on Best Buy (has an Intel Core i7 13620H processor over an i9-13900H and NVIDIA GeForce RTX 4060 w/ 8GB over an NVIDIA GeForce RTX 4070 with the same amount of RAM) but it was still over the initial ~$1k budget I set myself at. The ASUS I bought was $999 and has recently dropped by about 20 bucks.
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I must have glossed over the 1k, my mistake.
 
Nottafed said:
I must have glossed over the 1k, my mistake.
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It’s alright, I was contemplating between getting the 2023 ASUS TUF F15 or this Acer Predator Helios Neo laptop (it was on sale for $1,049.99 when I was making the decision) but the ASUS won out after a lot of thinking and discussion.

And if the ASUS isn’t to my liking I can always return or exchange it during the winter months.
 
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The Ugly One said:
I thought it might be a power delivery issue, but the power supply is TWO hundred watts. If my MB Pro can do it on while sipping electricity like a fancy lady with a mint julep, there's no excuse for this gaming laptop.
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There are no excuses for gaming laptops.

Put the power plug in, if you have a gaming laptop drawing 200+ you probably got the adapter and the old charger type port. If you only have USB-C connectors you should have read the specs before buying.
 
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Smaug's Smokey Hole 2 said:
There are no excuses for gaming laptops.

Put the power plug in, if you have a gaming laptop drawing 200+ you probably got the adapter and the old charger type port. If you only have USB-C connectors you should have read the specs before buying.
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The specs didn't say it can't drive two monitors out the USB-C ports. It's just gay.
 
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Smaug's Smokey Hole 2 said:
It can more than three displays and peripherals through a single USB-C port but the power delivery for a stupid gaming laptop is the issue, that's why it needs the brick!
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It's not like a USB-C 200W brick would be any smaller. And yes USB-C now can do 240W, although I'm not aware of any laptops yet doing that.

My main laptop is also a gaming laptop. I need the RAM and Storage for work more than I need >10 minutes of battery life. Also it helps keep me warm at night.
 
davids877 said:
It's not like a USB-C 200W brick would be any smaller. And yes USB-C now can do 240W, although I'm not aware of any laptops yet doing that.
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I feel like 240w going through that tiny connector is putting too much faith in physics.
 
Betonhaus said:
I feel like 240w going through that tiny connector is putting too much faith in physics.
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Well, at 240V it would only be 1A... so you just need more faith in insulation as 1A is easy today.

In reality they're doing 48V x 5A, and I think you already see 5A today at 20V to get the 100W charger.
 
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5A would require a 0.6mm² cable.
You wouldn't want to use a flimsy cable with that charger, but with a reasonable cable it should be safe. USB-C PD has a protocol to compare current reported by the power supply to current actually received by the device, so if that works correctly the charger should automatically cancel once it realises the cable isn't good enough.
 
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Smaug's Smokey Hole 2 said:
It can more than three displays and peripherals through a single USB-C port but the power delivery for a stupid gaming laptop is the issue, that's why it needs the brick!
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You don't need to deliver a lot of power to drive HDMI. Also, the power brick is going into the power plug, not the USB-C, so there shouldn't be any issue. It turns out that each USB-C maps to a different HDMI port on the dongle, and one of them is just incapable of HDMI. No way, no how. Just some random bullshit on an expensive laptop.
 
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