Furry Convention Drama - Because you can't have a couple thousand dog fucking enthusiasts under the same roof without shit hitting the fan

Catler said:
It's an unreasonable expectation that people should be manually turning this stuff off, especially as more and more things are connected via it.
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Not at a convention, it's not. Regular day-to-day, fine, leave the attack surface open. But at a conference? Fuck no. That's a prime fishing ground for people trying to legitimately hack devices (and not just to troll people).

Then again, maybe you're right. Go test your theory at the next DEFCON. That's always funny to watch.
 
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I ran back to Kiwifarms after I remembered that Midwest Furfest was this weekend (it is always the first weekend of december) and I am so disappointed that there is nothing noteworthy going on except the idea of hacking into buttplug software, Then again this is the world’s biggest furry convention so of course they’re going to run a tight ship
 
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moocow said:
Not at a convention, it's not. Regular day-to-day, fine, leave the attack surface open. But at a conference? Fuck no. That's a prime fishing ground for people trying to legitimately hack devices (and not just to troll people).

Then again, maybe you're right. Go test your theory at the next DEFCON. That's always funny to watch.
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Defcon is a special exception. I am not turning off bluetooth for a random furry con.

You could make the same argument that a subway is prime fishing grounds because of the quantity of people and devices in one spot, or anywhere people gather, but it's just unnecessary paranoia that I don't feel the need to subscribe to.
 
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Catler said:
I am not turning off bluetooth for a random furry con.
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I ain't stopping you. Just reserving the right to giggle if you get pwned at a convention that has already announced people are actively abusing Bluetooth to hack things because you didn't take even the slightest precaution.

BTW, what's with this notion that turning it off is some mysterious high-tech operation of such complexity that only the beardiest of neckbeards can possibly manage it? It's a button, right next to Airplane mode. Tap button, subsystem turns off.

You're not the only person I've seen act like it's some massive pain to turn off BT, so I'm not singling you out for it. Just a more general curiosity. Like ... it's a button in the notifications panel you already use dozens of times a day. You've probably seen it a dozen times already today just using your phone normally. Just tap it. What's hard about that?
 
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moocow said:
Just reserving the right to giggle if you get pwned at a convention that has already announced people are actively abusing Bluetooth to hack things because you didn't take even the slightest precaution.
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Forgive me for not caring, but it's hard to in a world where various companies and governments have already lost 100% of my personal data to hackers.
moocow said:
BTW, what's with this notion that turning it off is some mysterious high-tech operation of such complexity that only the beardiest of neckbeards can possibly manage it?
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It's not difficult, but it's something that normal people don't and aren't going to ever care about. Airlines have been trying to get people to use airplane mode for years and still a huge chunk of people won't turn it on in a situation where they are directly asked to.
moocow said:
Like ... it's a button in the notifications panel you already use dozens of times a day. You've probably seen it a dozen times already today just using your phone normally.
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I never open the settings panel unless it's to turn off noise cancellation on my airpods.
 
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Alright, which one of you is this?

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Catler said:
I never open the settings panel unless it's to turn off noise cancellation on my airpods.
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It's in the notification drop-down, not just in settings. At least on a real phone it is. Literally one swipe and touch for me to turn that shit off (and back on again later if I want to).

You do you though, man. You'll have this attitude (like most people do) until something actually happens, then you'll (also like most people do) get mad at the hardware/software vendors who built a device with such an "obvious flaw" instead of adopting easy habits that mitigate such things in the first place. Hopefully it's just an unsolicited buttplug buzz and not something more serious like session hijacking or IMEI spoofing.

Then again, people bitch all the time that somebody went through their car overnight looking for valuables but then get offended when you ask why they leave their car unlocked. Some folks just can't resist making it easier for crooks and thieves.

Cuntspiracy Man said:
is airplane mode still neccesary? most airlines have tech that isnt easily interfered with by cell phone function
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It was never necessary. Cell phones never had the ability (or transmission power) to cause any kind of genuine problem aboard an aircraft, on the ground or mid-flight. Internal (flight-critical) systems don't use wireless at all, and the few other systems don't operate at those frequencies anyway. Reminder that many airlines now offer wifi (free or paid) on their flights, both at 2.4GHz and 5GHz. People are actively encouraged to sling all sorts of radio noise all around the airplane now.

It was just the FAA (and subsequently DHS) flexing because they can. The airlines all went along with it (and encouraged it) because it was a convenient excuse to scold people for talking on the phone before and during takeoff when they should be paying at least a little attention.
 
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moocow said:
It was never necessary. Cell phones never had the ability (or transmission power) to cause any kind of genuine problem aboard an aircraft
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Older cell phones caused radio interference, which was an annoying beeping and buzzing sound if someone was making/receiving a call.

Some military radar makes a "bubbles popping" sound on the pilot's radio. That's the only way I can describe it.
 
Humbert Humbert said:
I ran back to Kiwifarms after I remembered that Midwest Furfest was this weekend (it is always the first weekend of december) and I am so disappointed that there is nothing noteworthy going on except the idea of hacking into buttplug software, Then again this is the world’s biggest furry convention so of course they’re going to run a tight ship
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Or they’ve gotten really experienced at hiding shit in the closet
 
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moocow said:
It was never necessary. Cell phones never had the ability (or transmission power) to cause any kind of genuine problem aboard an aircraft, on the ground or mid-flight. Internal (flight-critical) systems don't use wireless at all,
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It's just used these days as you are moving very fast and your phone is constantly trying to hit nearby cell towers, which drains your battery

It happens on high speed rails too
 
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